megaericzero Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Er, right. I'm with you. I'm just counterpointing Saiya's assertion specifically that rage is thematically intrinsic to super strength in media. Mechanically, lump me in with the "just swap it with Build Up and rebalance the raw damage" crowd. (For porting to Scrappers/Stalkers; leaveit alone on Tankers/Brutes.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Rudra said: How did I forget Spiderman as an example of a non-Tanker super strength character?! A wizard cast a spell to make everyone forget him. There was a documentary about it, Spider-Man: No Way Home. 2 2 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, PeregrineFalcon said: I on the other hand DO advocate throwing bears. Bring it!!! Brought. Do you even have a bear to throw? I got mine right here (that's my solar array in the foreground). What you got? Nada. NOTHING. 1 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyMaker Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Saiyajinzoningen said: Fact is when most folk think super strength they think hulk I feel like more people think of Superman which is not a claim that he's stronger --that's a different argument-- just that he's a more recognizable super strong hero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyMaker Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Saiyajinzoningen said: how many times have we seen superman get mad and punch someone through a planet? check out this image of spiderman getting so mad he punches hulk into orbit get mad, get stronger! That's not Spider-man, that's Captain Universe in his body 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyajinzoningen Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 There's a lot of chars listed here Anger Empowerment | Superpower Wiki | Fandom Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Luminara said: Brought. Do you even have a bear to throw? I got mine right here (that's my solar array in the foreground). What you got? Nada. NOTHING. Do you know where that bear came from? Maybe PeregrineFalcon threw it there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, Ghost said: Do you know where that bear came from? Pine forest to the south of the Lumiverse. There are three bears living there. I started seeing them the year after I moved out here. This one's been coming to the cabin for the last couple of years, and is comfortable enough with me to relax and nosh on cat food while I stand 15' away, talking. I'll be petting him within the next few years. 4 minutes ago, Ghost said: Maybe PeregrineFalcon threw it there. That would be an act of war, one to which I'd be forced to respond with an assault of such ferocity and immensity as to destroy the very planet on which we stand. Since we still have said planet, clearly there was no war, so he couldn't have thrown it here. Simple deduction, my dear Doctor @Ghost. 1 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.I.D.A. Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 22 hours ago, Player2 said: With talk about replacing Rage with another power and rebalancing the attacks to make it viable for scrappers floating around, this could be viewed as an opportunity to fix Super Strength (for tankers and brutes) later. As in do it different for the scrappers/stalkers and see how the set plays out with changes. If it goes well, then look at that data as a means to address issues with the brutes and tankers version of the powerset. Fix what we have that's broken before porting the broken thing to other archetypes. As it stands, Titan Weapon and Street Justice are perfectly thematic stand-ins for Super Strength as a concept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderDroid Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, A.I.D.A. said: Fix what we have that's broken before porting the broken thing to other archetypes. As it stands, Titan Weapon and Street Justice are perfectly thematic stand-ins for Super Strength as a concept. Titan Weapons does not let me throw rocks at people. 2 2 Aspiring game designer and minotaur main. Anyone can tear something down. The true talent is building it back up again, better than before. My collection of powerset suggestions - open to comments and feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 19 hours ago, Rudra said: Personally, I think if Rage was just renamed to like Adrenaline Rush, there would be less complaints about it. How many times have there been requests for replacement powers for Rage that were mechanically the same but had a different name? I already have Dibs on Bunny Foo Foo gogo time, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 30 minutes ago, Haijinx said: I already have Dibs on Bunny Foo Foo gogo time, sorry. 3 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 8 hours ago, Haijinx said: I already have Dibs on Bunny Foo Foo gogo time, sorry. WAIT I though CARP MELEE was next. YOU WAIT YOUR TURN. Edited March 28 by Lazarus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Lazarus said: WAIT I though CARP MELEE was next. YOU WAIT OYUR TURN. I was pointing out the Rage rename to bffhggt was already set. Adrenaline Rush is some kind of Getty Lee tribute band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertanker Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/27/2024 at 1:36 PM, Saiyajinzoningen said: get mad, get stronger! This also describes every Brute, and anyone using an Enrage Inspiration. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twozerofoxtrot Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 21 hours ago, A.I.D.A. said: Street Justice I think about Superman or Juggernaut doing these moves and lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Next there will be another post about how Super Duper Man never fights mad. Then someone will suggest a second set called Might to just change 1 power they don't like the name of. Then someone will claim again with only weak anecdotal justification that Rage doesn't change the set's performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Oh wait but Spider Legs man has auper strength and he both never gets mad AND is a Scrapper, even though Marvel Comics isn't the COH RPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azari Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/28/2024 at 6:53 AM, A.I.D.A. said: Fix what we have that's broken before porting the broken thing to other archetypes. As it stands, Titan Weapon and Street Justice are perfectly thematic stand-ins for Super Strength as a concept. I disagree. TW and Street Justice look nothing like Super Strength. They feel nothing like Super Strength. I dont see it at all as a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 7 hours ago, twozerofoxtrot said: I think about Superman or Juggernaut doing these moves and lmao. I can imagine Rogue and Supergirl doing those moves and they have super strength. 🙂 That said, I agree, it's as I've said for why we need more Defense Sets...the feel! I want a SS/INV Scrapper who's hurling a boulder! Maybe Scrapper's version of Super Strength can have it were it's considered a must have attack 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.I.D.A. Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/28/2024 at 5:01 AM, CrusaderDroid said: Titan Weapons does not let me throw rocks at people. It doesn't have to. It just has to be super strong, which swinging around giant slabs of metal absolutely displays about a character. Edited March 29 by A.I.D.A. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyajinzoningen Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 25 minutes ago, BrandX said: I can imagine Rogue and Supergirl doing those moves and they have super strength. 🙂 That said, I agree, it's as I've said for why we need more Defense Sets...the feel! I want a SS/INV Scrapper who's hurling a boulder! Maybe Scrapper's version of Super Strength can have it were it's considered a must have attack 🙂 try stone melee for scrapper Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 32 minutes ago, Saiyajinzoningen said: try stone melee for scrapper Not the same, seeing as how it comes with stone covered fists and stone mallets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, BrandX said: Not the same, seeing as how it comes with stone covered fists and stone mallets. And also doesn't let you throw rocks at people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 13 minutes ago, Player2 said: And also doesn't let you throw rocks at people. It literally has a power called Hurl Boulder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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