Newer sets

[Lockpick]

Out of the new sets that HC has developed, which ones are fun to play and strong enough for all content?

 

Fun to play for me is to not have hokey gimmicks like Storm Cell.

[merrypessimist]

Most of them have gimmicks of one sort or another.  Assault control is pretty good, assuming you can deal with all the ground targeting for powers.  There's only like two abilities in the entire set that don't need a location target.

[Glacier Peak]

2 hours ago, Lockpick said:

Out of the new sets that HC has developed, which ones are fun to play and strong enough for all content?

 

Fun to play for me is to not have hokey gimmicks like Storm Cell.

Seismic Blast is pretty fun, same with Marine Affinity. I'd say if you're not looking for something new that has any kind of gameplay mechanic, stick with the old vanilla powersets that let you roll your face on the keyboard and you won't be disappointed. 

[lemming]

I love my Storm/Dark Sentinel.   It's not an exciting character, but it's a fun concept.

 

The update to Axe is great.

 

Fold Space is another fun addition when used well.

 

Seismic Blast is another fun one.

 

Electric Affinity is a very useful set

 

The rest I haven't had much experience with, so will leave that to others.

[Without_Pause]

Depends on far back you go for defining new. I think Electric Affinity and Marine Affinity are likely the best overall sets to be added on the more recent side. While I admit to playing a lot of support, neither set has really clicked for me, but both are on the busy side. I think the best for the others sets are largely set reworks. I think any other of the newer sets fall into the 'fine' category with none of them really hitting any sort of meta in terms of the player base overwhelmingly preferring those sets over other classic sets. 

[Jiro Ito]

My vote is for Marine, it is outstanding

[Seed22]

7 hours ago, Lockpick said:

Out of the new sets that HC has developed, which ones are fun to play and strong enough for all content?

 

Fun to play for me is to not have hokey gimmicks like Storm Cell.

Marine really is the only good set thats new. Symphony is ok and has no gimmick. Seismic is awful, arsenal is not great, and Storm as you’ve seen is bad.

Edited October 27 by Seed22

[MoonSheep]

7 hours ago, merrypessimist said:

Most of them have gimmicks of one sort or another.  Assault control is pretty good, assuming you can deal with all the ground targeting for powers.  There's only like two abilities in the entire set that don't need a location target.

 

i mostly agree with this - i’m not a fan of combos and similar mechanics. i’d prefer a clean, meat and two veg, how’s ya father, 9-5, 2 up 2 down, red blooded, honest days work powerset 

[DoctorDitko]

Marine is quite fun. Combos, however, are a pain. I have a Marine/Storm, and remembering to hit both Storm Cell and Tidal Pool at the start of a fight is frustrating.

 

[Lockpick]

A number of people recommended Marine, so I went with a Water / Marine Corruptor.  Thanks for all the replies! 

[Glacier Peak]

59 minutes ago, Lockpick said:

A number of people recommended Marine, so I went with a Water / Marine Corruptor.  Thanks for all the replies! 

Fun discussion on that over in the Corruptor sub forum:

 

 

[UltraAlt]

On 10/26/2024 at 7:01 PM, Lockpick said:

Out of the new sets that HC has developed, which ones are fun to play and strong enough for all content?

 

The ones you think have hokey gimmicks

 

[Lockpick]

On 10/29/2024 at 12:20 AM, UltraAlt said:

 

The ones you think have hokey gimmicks

 

 

Thank you!  You added depth to the conversation and I certainly appreciate you chiming in!

[biostem]

On 10/26/2024 at 7:01 PM, Lockpick said:

Out of the new sets that HC has developed, which ones are fun to play and strong enough for all content?

 

Fun to play for me is to not have hokey gimmicks like Storm Cell.

Well, do you consider "some powers build up a resource and others consume it for additional effects", a "hokey gimmick"?  That's pretty much the case with most of the sets, even those released later on in CoH's run while it was still live.

 

Since Sentinels were, AFAIK, only added in the SCORE days, do they count?  Seismic and water blast are pretty good.  I've only played marine a little, but from what I've experienced, it's quite good.  I can't speak to arsenal control or assault...

[Lockpick]

1 hour ago, biostem said:

Well, do you consider "some powers build up a resource and others consume it for additional effects", a "hokey gimmick"?  That's pretty much the case with most of the sets, even those released later on in CoH's run while it was still live.

 

Since Sentinels were, AFAIK, only added in the SCORE days, do they count?  Seismic and water blast are pretty good.  I've only played marine a little, but from what I've experienced, it's quite good.  I can't speak to arsenal control or assault...

 

No, I don't consider most powers that build up additional effects to be hokey.  Combo systems are fine, Sentinels are great (usually).  I specifically called out Storm Cell as a hokey gimmick because you have to lay out a Location AoE to get effective use of your powers and then it slowly follows you,

 

Another hokey gimmick I dislike is Reaction Time where you get a recharge bonus if you deactivate the power.  I love MC as a set, but dislike that type of mechanic.

 

Anyway, I apologize to one and all if I offended anyone with my use of the word "Hokey".  I will now go back into my box where I don't post for fear of offending people.

[biostem]

4 minutes ago, Lockpick said:

Anyway, I apologize to one and all if I offended anyone with my use of the word "Hokey".

Personally, I think you're fine.  TBH, I much prefer storm cell to the frustratingly limited combo system of dual blades.  Regardless, give seismic blast a try, (if you haven't already), and i very much like how the HC devs kind of experimented with sentinel SR...

[UltraAlt]

1 hour ago, Lockpick said:

Thank you!  You added depth to the conversation and I certainly appreciate you chiming in!

 

What to you expect me to say?

 

I like Storm Blast.

I like Marine Affinity, and it has a similar mechanic - so I'm assuming that you think it has a "hokey gimmick" as well.

 

I like those sets and how they work.

Do you need me to go into a big diatribe about why I think they are fun to play?

You obviously don't, so that is worthless typing.

 

I can tell you sets I do not like and that is the Assault sets, but this thread isn't about sets I don't like, now is it?

Oh, but it does appear to be about sets that you think have "hokey mechanics".

I guess that is what this thread was really about as you even list another mechanic that you think is "hokey".

 

Maybe not making snide remarks to people that reply to your posts would be a good idea.

 

I approve of: 

 

16 minutes ago, Lockpick said:

I will now go back into my box where I don't post for fear of offending people.

 

[UltraAlt]

On 10/27/2024 at 9:47 PM, Lockpick said:

A number of people recommended Marine, so I went with a Water / Marine Corruptor.  Thanks for all the replies! 

 

Great pick.

It has one of those "hokey" mechanics that you say that you don't like.

[High_Beam]

They are all fun.  I have a blast with my seismic Blaster and my Storm Blaster, Defender and Corruptor, and my two Marine Affinity and my ARS/ARS Dom.  All fun.

 

As for hokey?  Building up fury is Hokey, Building up Domination is Hokey, Combos on multiple melee attacks hokey

 

And of course POKEY is hokey.

 

Now a few of the new ones are a bit OP, but that is just my opinion.

[biostem]

2 minutes ago, High_Beam said:

And of course POKEY is hokey.

 

Say what now???

[Lockpick]

14 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

 

What to you expect me to say?

 

I like Storm Blast.

I like Marine Affinity, and it has a similar mechanic - so I'm assuming that you think it has a "hokey gimmick" as well.

 

I like those sets and how they work.

Do you need me to go into a big diatribe about why I think they are fun to play?

You obviously don't, so that is worthless typing.

 

I can tell you sets I do not like and that is the Assault sets, but this thread isn't about sets I don't like, now is it?

Oh, but it does appear to be about sets that you think have "hokey mechanics".

I guess that is what this thread was really about as you even list another mechanic that you think is "hokey".

 

Maybe not making snide remarks to people that reply to your posts would be a good idea.

 

I approve of: 

 

 

 

I believe you are the one that kicked off the snide / snarky remarks, but your lack of self-awareness probably prevents you from seeing it.  It seems like you are quite sensitive based on your long wall of text in your signature where you brag about putting people on ignore.  Here is a hint: if you are putting multiple people on ignore, it might be a good idea to look into the mirror, because it is very likely that you are the problem, especially if this thread is any indication of how you usually interact with others.  Please add me to your ignore list, since you seem to take glee in collecting ignore trophies.

 

[High_Beam]

so we have an @Snarky but not a @Snide

 

Curious, someone is missing an opportunity.

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, Lockpick said:

 

I believe you are the one that kicked off the snide / snarky remarks, but your lack of self-awareness probably prevents you from seeing it.  It seems like you are quite sensitive based on your long wall of text in your signature where you brag about putting people on ignore.  Here is a hint: if you are putting multiple people on ignore, it might be a good idea to look into the mirror, because it is very likely that you are the problem, especially if this thread is any indication of how you usually interact with others.  Please add me to your ignore list, since you seem to take glee in collecting ignore trophies.

 

I now charge for the use of my patented name.  Your invoice of 1 million inf is past due.  Please remit immediately.

[Heliphyn34u]

16 hours ago, High_Beam said:

And of course POKEY is hokey.

 

 

But did you turn yourself around?

 

😄

 

I really like Seismic -- how powerful it is depends on how you slot it, but it's a lot of fun.  Meteor in particular makes me laugh.  YMMV.

 

[UltraAlt]

8 hours ago, Lockpick said:

I believe you are the one that kicked off the snide / snarky remarks

 

Nope. I really like the sets that you think are "hokey".