Enhancement Question - Luck of the Gambler Global Recharge and Similar Enhancements

[CrimsonScarab]

For the enhancements that give a global benefit like Luck of the Gambler Global Recharge, does it matter what level that specific enhancement is?  I know for Accuracy, Damage, etc. the level matters because it loses power and becomes worthless after a certain number of levels, but does the same apply to the special enhancements like that one?  Would a level 30 enhancement of that type still be viable all the way to level 50 or would it have to be replaced?

[macskull]

Invention enhancements always have a fixed bonus and never expire. A level 30 enhancement will always provide the same values no matter what level you are, with the tradeoff being the actual enhancement values change depending on the level of an enhancement. In this specific example, the Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed has two separate effects:

• It enhances the defense values of any defense power it's slotted in. This value changes with the level of the enhancement. So, for example, a level 30 LotG will provide about 13.1% defense enhancement value, which does not change as you level up. A level 50 LotG provides about 15.9% defense enhancement value.
• The "increased global recharge speed" portion functions just like a set bonus, which means it is always the same regardless of what level the enhancement is or what level you are.

[Maelwys]

4 minutes ago, CrimsonScarab said:

For the enhancements that give a global benefit like Luck of the Gambler Global Recharge, does it matter what level that specific enhancement is?  I know for Accuracy, Damage, etc. the level matters because it loses power and becomes worthless after a certain number of levels, but does the same apply to the special enhancements like that one?  Would a level 30 enhancement of that type still be viable all the way to level 50 or would it have to be replaced?

As @macskull says; IOs won't "age out" as you level up.
That's a legacy thing for Single Origin Enhancements etc. and the prestige enhancements from the START vendor,

Some special IOs will however lose their benefits if you exemplar down to more than 3 levels lower than the enhancement.

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Set_Enhancements_with_Special_Effects

Procs don't care about what level you currently are examplared down to.
Globals do. So attune your globals (or just save money and buy them pre-attuned from the AH)
LoTG +7.5% Rech is a Global.

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Exemplar_Effects_on_Enhancements#Special_IOs_from_Sets

 

[CrimsonScarab]

Thanks guys.  That answers my question

[Yomo Kimyata]

Get your Lotg +rech and your Steadfast protection attuned — they have inherent def and dam res that increases by lwvel

[GM Crumpet]

I always buy set enhancements attuned as they are the same price as level based ones in the AH and it means I never have to worry about them again. Purple sets are different and benefit from boosters, but I'm not overly bothered so generally buy them attuned as well. I even get Winter sets and ATO attuned so I don't have to fret over using a catalyst to turn them into the superior version when I hit level 50.

Edited 12 hours ago by GM Crumpet

[Glacier Peak]

+5 Ride or Die

[Bionic_Flea]

14 minutes ago, GM Crumpet said:

I even get Winter sets and ATO attuned so I don't have to fret over using a catalyst to turn them into the superior version when I hit level 50.

 

ATOs and Winter Sets are always attuned.  You can't get a non-attuned one.  The catalyst makes them superior.  Unless you mean you buy them Superior, but then you can't slot them until 50.

 

For most procs and globals, the level doesn't matter.  They'll do that same thing at level 10 as level 50 as level 50+5 EXCEPT if that proc has something else it does, like the LoTG +7.5 ALSO has a bit of defense enhancement and level and +5ing does improve that portion of it.  If you get it attuned, you can slot it early and have the defense scale up as you level and then switch to +5 at 50 and donate the attuned to your next project, or just leave it.

[tidge]

18 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

ATOs and Winter Sets are always attuned.  You can't get a non-attuned one.  

 

So you're saying that all those level 10 Winter ATOs I ordered from the comic book don't actually exist?!! Good thing I have outstanding orders for some level 11 Cupid's Crush pieces!

[BasiliskXVIII]

42 minutes ago, GM Crumpet said:

I always buy set enhancements attuned as they are the same price as level based ones in the AH and it means I never have to worry about them again. Purple sets are different and benefit from boosters, but I'm not overly bothered so generally buy them attuned as well. I even get Winter sets and ATO attuned so I don't have to fret over using a catalyst to turn them into the superior version when I hit level 50.

Also, the Event IO sets (Overwhelming Force and Cupid's Crush) are attuned-only, but do not have a superior version to upgrade to. 

[tidge]

3 minutes ago, BasiliskXVIII said:

Also, the Event IO sets (Overwhelming Force and Cupid's Crush) are attuned-only, but do not have a superior version to upgrade to. 

 

Gesus Cist! This server has gone to the Americans!

[Championess]

1 hour ago, GM Crumpet said:

Purple sets are different and benefit from boosters, but I'm not overly bothered so generally buy them attuned as well.

 

Oh. My. So gross! 

 

Not only do you limit yourself from getting more enhancement value out of those sets by +5'ing them but most importantly you're ruining the beautiful hexagonical aethstetic for a dull round one.

[GM Crumpet]

1 hour ago, Championess said:

 

Oh. My. So gross! 

 

Not only do you limit yourself from getting more enhancement value out of those sets by +5'ing them but most importantly you're ruining the beautiful hexagonical aethstetic for a dull round one.

Well I don't have the inf or merits to buy that many boosters

[GM Crumpet]

2 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

 

ATOs and Winter Sets are always attuned.  You can't get a non-attuned one.  The catalyst makes them superior.  Unless you mean you buy them Superior, but then you can't slot them until 50.

 

For most procs and globals, the level doesn't matter.  They'll do that same thing at level 10 as level 50 as level 50+5 EXCEPT if that proc has something else it does, like the LoTG +7.5 ALSO has a bit of defense enhancement and level and +5ing does improve that portion of it.  If you get it attuned, you can slot it early and have the defense scale up as you level and then switch to +5 at 50 and donate the attuned to your next project, or just leave it.

I just use the attuned menu. I've bought too many recipes by accident

[Championess]

21 minutes ago, GM Crumpet said:

Well I don't have the inf or merits to buy that many boosters

 

Well if you are able to summon monsters like say Hamidon under Atlas statue I'm sure we could work out an arrangement where you'll never have to worry about boosters again... 😁

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

2 hours ago, Championess said:

Well if you are able to summon monsters like say Hamidon under Atlas statue . . .

 

[Major_Decoy]

6 hours ago, Maelwys said:

Procs don't care about what level you currently are examplared down to.
Globals do. So attune your globals (or just save money and buy them pre-attuned from the AH)
LoTG +7.5% Rech is a Global.

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Exemplar_Effects_on_Enhancements#Special_IOs_from_Sets

 

I'd add:

Procs care if the power they're slotted in is active. If you have a proc slotted in a level 49 power and you exemplar down to level 32, you will lose that power, and therefor that proc.

Globals don't care if the power they're slotted in is active. If you have a global slotted in a level 49 power and you exemplar down to level 32 (and it's attuned and the minimum level is 35 or lower) then you will get the bonus as long as that enhancement is slotted in your active build.

[MTeague]

3 hours ago, Championess said:

Oh. My. So gross! 

 

Not only do you limit yourself from getting more enhancement value out of those sets by +5'ing them but most importantly you're ruining the beautiful hexagonical aethstetic for a dull round one.

 

Now, it is very true, that 

 

 

For Purples, generally I'm doing a whole set, so I will leave them hexagonal, so that the set matches, and I can boost them.

But if I'm putting just the Damage Proc and nothing else in a power?  Or a Panacea proc but not most of the set into a power?  Then I will buy them attuned.

I cannot abide having a mix of circles AND hexagons in the very same power.