SomeGuy Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 11:57 AM, StriderIV said: Great point. Looks like if I ever run a stone scrapper, I’ll go with one of those sets haha Rad armor is a really good secondary choice also. And it actually is a real good boosts for cranking out extra damage. My SM/RAD does DPS as well as my WM/SD (the SM/RAD might actually do better). My SM/BIO and WM/BIO both have similar DPS results. 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
Enots Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 7:22 AM, Enots said: Activated. I’m interested to see when I finish tier 4 reactive and hybrid where it comes out. 1:04, 1:06, 1:07. Ill/Cold/Psi with the reactive and hybrid at tier 4. 1
Bionic_Flea Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Enots said: 1:04, 1:06, 1:07. Ill/Cold/Psi with the reactive and hybrid at tier 4. Wow! Would you be interested in sharing your build and attack chain?
Enots Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bionic_Flea said: Wow! Would you be interested in sharing your build and attack chain? I used infrigidate, spectral, blind, spectral, mental blast. I try to not use mental blast depending on what other powers can be cast. Sleet and benumb are first priority when recharged. I could push ST DPS further if I was willing to give up proc'd psy nado and ranged softcap. I could swap Superior will proc into blind, build for more recharge, and switch to pyronic. Infirgidate has the new slow proc in it as well, everything is +5 (even though my mids shows +3), except the recharge IOs in spectral wounds to help it proc slightly more. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Phant: Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Illusion ControlSecondary Power Set: Cold DominationPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Spectral Wounds -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg(3), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Apc-Acc/Rchg(5)Level 1: Infrigidate -- PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(7), TchofLadG-%Dam(7), ShlBrk-%Dam(11), ImpSwf-Dam%(13), Empty(17)Level 2: Blind -- HO:Nucle(A), NrnSht-Dam%(15), GldJvl-Dam%(15), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(34), UnbCns-Dam%(37), GldNet-Dam%(39)Level 4: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 6: Deceive -- CrcPrs-Conf%(A), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(40), CrcPrs-Conf(40), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(43), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(45), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(45)Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(9), BlsoftheZ-Travel(9), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(11)Level 10: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)Level 14: Boxing -- AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(A), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(17), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(46), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(46), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(46)Level 16: Tough -- ResDam-I(A)Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(19), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(25), SlbAll-Build%(34), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(34)Level 20: Arctic Fog -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(21), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21), GldArm-3defTpProc(23)Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)Level 24: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25)Level 26: Spectral Terror -- SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(27), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31)Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 32: Phantasm -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33)Level 35: Sleet -- Artl-End/Rech/Rng(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(36), Artl-Acc/Dam(36), Artl-Dam/End(36), Artl-Dam/Rech(37), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(37)Level 38: Heat Loss -- PrfShf-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(39), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39)Level 41: Mental Blast -- Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thn-Acc/Dmg(42), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)Level 44: Mind Over Body -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45)Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- HO:Nucle(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(48), ExpStr-Dam%(48), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48), PstBls-Dam%(50), JvlVll-Dam%(50)Level 49: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A)Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1432;688;1376;HEX;| |78DA55934D6F12511486EF30334CA1A505A1DF2285528B05291897264DA4D5342D4| |AE256C50950983805049AD8A50BB72ED4C495B635B1B59AE8D6AD3FC0F8B132C67F| |60FAA1FE003C33EFA1E004F2DCFBDEF79C7BEE99B9D9FB8B03EFAE3E5810923763E| |ACD663E53ABB61A35D32C35D4AC5E360A821E3557D1AB2D8D46D3DDE58E33B96C9A| |1B4DA356ED08A11ECFE58DB5B564A66616F38BB575A3AAB7C827FA73350ABB621AE| |54ACB6D8F6FD44BA5A207B2A51AD5F2903D5B2DE9C552A35931EA81A5BA5148E6AC| |8D8C423EAB375BA5C6E618953443FF2D49F0D35644DA2144DA251C09660A5492CC7| |9F0AE87EC765C5B15EF255B737EA4353FF1133C6EA72C44D0250676259BDE363D62| |9B2612474A97089A2C0675CBA189C10445A435115E976C46971D36CF2E413769571| |9950A79189E1D820A4D5575F867EF306F8273B7C0C46D661E74D15BD1508BAC71BE| |BE00F3073CEE9F6095F676F1DE2EF64628BE1FF1527F5CD8DA0053A2350F77D5731| |D39BCD7C0F32BCC55661694296608F9C45002795ED1DCC7E7F31DC177EA0FF3181C| |FB0B8633CC05B04E05F8F97C7EAE39C0E70B8CA2E72317D05B85F61E86D731CCDE1| |1F6CE7A411F7946F9BCA387881B3B02AD973CCE758EBF8536F186B90B9ED963BE66| |EE83F7A8CE49C43A262770EED3F1FFB94E9E20F73F1886B6477B86A0C921EEC5D46| |F26F7688A7BD3A0F808D717E9536D6D5A63CA4C058CAA4C27D8F4583745B2EB9B79| |CADFE413E623F0331D25C6F9632F51DFB91DE673E60B706E8BB90D7EA5D838F7357| |E11BD4EA4C06FB496E4FB92E4FB32EF405DF39BD68D233E440DE90FC8978EA0AF5F| |0829CE9BE23EA63B7D554E6E3DFDAC9B19EC2AED55E5E47ED3678FEC398525D2243| |BE2C0DDE39A46DEA35E2D8C3A0E7BB5187CC7BDDA63ECB0E227406B8F07BAE3EF3D| |FAAF6877FCCCD2B9E2FD4857FF079A38D5BD| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited January 18, 2022 by Enots Attack chain error 1 2
Microcosm Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Staff/Ice Stalker, procced build, standard incarnates of Musc Core, Degen Core, Ageless Core, Pyronic Core, Assault Core (not toggled): 1:48 1:50 2:02 1:57 1:45 2:07 Did more runs as I tweaked things, and they all fall in that same general range, using AS > SR > PS > MB, popping in Water Spout or Build Up as they're up. Adding in Sky Splitter tends to add 20 or so seconds, which has been the problem every time I've tried to get something out of Staff since the proc changes, because I assumed, apparently wrongly, Sky Splitter would be better in a proc build. The best I'd done before was 2:21 with a Staff/Bio stalker, so I'm pretty happy with this version. 1 Inspiration maker's guide
Microcosm Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 DB/Stone stalker, mostly procced except Power Slice which I needed for some set bonuses. Using standard incarnates Musc Core, Degen Core, Ageless Core, Pyronic Core, Assault Core (not toggled): 1:29 1:30 1:25 1:37 1:26 Chain of (BU) > AS > AB > SS > MB/PS Then did a couple with just Power Slice and no Moonbeam, just to see: 1:37 1:55 1:40 The build is usable without Ageless for endurance, but requires some use of Geode as a combat rest in that case. Crystal Armor is not really good enough to cover a proc build on its own, basically. It's overall very sturdy, but it will eventually die when completely swarmed by +4 Cimerorans and Shadow Meld and Geode are both down. Outside of that extreme defense debuff scenario, though, stone should be very tough. 1 Inspiration maker's guide
arcane Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 Damn guys. I got scared off of pylon testing reading pages like this one because I can’t seem to break the 1:40 barrier on ANYTHING.
arcane Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) On 1/18/2022 at 11:28 PM, Microcosm said: using AS > SR > PS > MB, popping in Water Spout or Build Up as they're up. I just want to say I had to look up Staff Fighting on my phone to remember Mercurial Blow, and was on the brink of asking you (sarcastically) to share with the class how you got Moonbeam and Water Spout on one character 🙂 Edited January 21, 2022 by arcane 1
Microcosm Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, arcane said: I just want to say I had to look up Staff Fighting on my phone to remember Mercurial Blow, and was on the brink of asking you (sarcastically) to share with the class how you got Moonbeam and Water Spout on one character 🙂 Technically you could, with multiple builds and /selectbuild 1 or 2, but executing that would require everything to recharge. Would be pretty terrible on your dps and survival 😉 Inspiration maker's guide
SomeGuy Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 7:30 PM, leeowensoas said: DB/SR Funny, I'm currently setting out and incarnating a DB/EnA and your posts have definitely inspired me to try this. SR and ENA are really interchangeable in this situation. Only change I really did with build I'm gonna try is taking Zapp and Ball Lightning. You've still got as much endurance discount in yoru attacks as I would on a straight-through build. I'm gonna build the procced one first to see how I like it. I'm actually wondering if Zapp will find a place in the chain considering Nimble Slash is used for once. 😛 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
leeowensoas Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, SomeGuy said: Funny, I'm currently setting out and incarnating a DB/EnA and your posts have definitely inspired me to try this. SR and ENA are really interchangeable in this situation. Only change I really did with build I'm gonna try is taking Zapp and Ball Lightning. You've still got as much endurance discount in yoru attacks as I would on a straight-through build. I'm gonna build the procced one first to see how I like it. I'm actually wondering if Zapp will find a place in the chain considering Nimble Slash is used for once. 😛 I’ve gone back and forth on my most recent builds with zapp+BL. In the end I decided to just make 2 builds, one which is higher survivability which eschews fun flavor powers, and one which is all out damage, with every attack procced, plus ball lightning and zapp. Zapp ended up being a wash in the attack chain no matter how much I tweaked, but I do really miss it as a ranged option and just for fun/convenience one shotting sappers and the like. Ball lightning is definitely nice to leverage with the critical strikes proc, but I found it didn’t take the character’s AoE from “good” to “great”, just to “good with a little extra”. However I’m toying with an EnA build now where I try to at least fit the snipe (feel like shadow meld is worth worthwhile than BL personally on an EA). EA misses physical perfection a lot less than SR, so there’s not much reason *not* to pick up a snipe, especially as Apocalypse might be the best of the purple sets in terms of bonuses. I’ll try to post the build I’m toying with once I get to do some pylon tests with it
SomeGuy Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, leeowensoas said: I’ve gone back and forth on my most recent builds with zapp+BL. In the end I decided to just make 2 builds, one which is higher survivability which eschews fun flavor powers, and one which is all out damage, with every attack procced, plus ball lightning and zapp. Zapp ended up being a wash in the attack chain no matter how much I tweaked, but I do really miss it as a ranged option and just for fun/convenience one shotting sappers and the like. Ball lightning is definitely nice to leverage with the critical strikes proc, but I found it didn’t take the character’s AoE from “good” to “great”, just to “good with a little extra”. However I’m toying with an EnA build now where I try to at least fit the snipe (feel like shadow meld is worth worthwhile than BL personally on an EA). EA misses physical perfection a lot less than SR, so there’s not much reason *not* to pick up a snipe, especially as Apocalypse might be the best of the purple sets in terms of bonuses. I’ll try to post the build I’m toying with once I get to do some pylon tests with it ENA is pretty cool in that regard because it's not much a difference in survivability with the two builds then. If Zapp ends up being a wash, that means it can be a set mule then. And I get the bonus of haviung BL helping with AOE. Proc Build: Normal: So if I end up not using Zapp that means I'll save a slot on the proc build and get 10% recharge. But you can see, it isn't much difference in survivability with the two. When looking at the numbers, definitely a noticeable difference with End/s and total end Not gonna lie, I hope I like the proc build. I'm normally adverse to doing proc builds because of normally how much I have to sacrifice, but the combination of these two sets is letting me keep a lot of the numbers I value in good ranges. There is a very big difference in global ACC with the two. Kismet feels mandatory with the proc one. I can prolly take it out of the normal one since BF will give a fat boost when it lands anyways. There's about 20% recharge difference between the builds. With base temp and day job temp I'm not concerned. Edited January 22, 2022 by SomeGuy Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
Sovera Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 With all this talk of BD I felt I had to give it another honest try. It wasn't very scientific since once I got to the 2:30 mark and the pylon was still with a third of its HP I just quit. May need to be heavily procced. Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Power Slice -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(7)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(13), Rct-ResDam%(33)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(19), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Rchg(21), AchHee-ResDeb%(23)Level 4: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- Erd-%Dam(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erd-Acc/Rchg(25), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(39), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(39)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(11), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(11), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(33)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15), ShlWal-Def(15)Level 14: Dampening Field -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31)Level 16: Energy Protection -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctArm-ResDam(29), GldArm-3defTpProc(33)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(40), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)Level 22: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 24: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(37), Prv-Absorb%(39)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 32: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(46)Level 35: Focused Accuracy -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(46), AdjTrg-Rchg(46)Level 38: Energy Drain -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(42), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(42), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(42), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(43), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(43)Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 44: Overload -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 47: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(47), RctArm-ResDam(47)Level 49: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(49), ShlWal-Def(49), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(49)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)Level 50: Musculature Radial ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas MedallionLevel 22: Afterburner------------ - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
SomeGuy Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Sovera said: With all this talk of BD I felt I had to give it another honest try. It wasn't very scientific since once I got to the 2:30 mark and the pylon was still with a third of its HP I just quit. May need to be heavily procced. Reveal hidden contents This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Power Slice -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(7)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(13), Rct-ResDam%(33)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(19), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Rchg(21), AchHee-ResDeb%(23)Level 4: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- Erd-%Dam(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erd-Acc/Rchg(25), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(39), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(39)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(11), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(11), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(33)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15), ShlWal-Def(15)Level 14: Dampening Field -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31)Level 16: Energy Protection -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctArm-ResDam(29), GldArm-3defTpProc(33)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(40), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)Level 22: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 24: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(37), Prv-Absorb%(39)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 32: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(46)Level 35: Focused Accuracy -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(46), AdjTrg-Rchg(46)Level 38: Energy Drain -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech(42), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(42), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(42), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(43), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(43)Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 44: Overload -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 47: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(47), RctArm-ResDam(47)Level 49: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(49), ShlWal-Def(49), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(49)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)Level 50: Musculature Radial ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas MedallionLevel 22: Afterburner------------ I did a test run just to get the chain down (literally just adding nimble slice as opposed to the other one) with t3 muscle and t4 ageless. I didn't even have HOs slotted yet. Zero acc/dmg slotted 😄 End is definitely not an issue. Actually changing some of the build around because of that to get some more hp and hp/s. I definitely foresee my pylon time getting under two minutes once done, not sure if I'll average as low as @leeowensoas, but crazy ST DPS isn't why I rolled DB/ENA anyways. I just have always like DB and the current iteration of ENA. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Sir Leeford: Level 50 Natural ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Blaze Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Nimble Slash -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dam%(3), GldStr-%Dam(5), TchofDth-Dam%(5)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(7), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(7), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), Ksm-ToHit+(48)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), GldStr-%Dam(11), TchofDth-Dam%(13), TchofLadG-%Dam(13), AchHee-ResDeb%(15)Level 4: Dampening Field -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(15), Ags-ResDam(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(23)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25), GssSynFr--Build%(27), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(27)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(17), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 16: Energy Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(31), GldArm-ResDam(31)Level 18: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34), Erd-%Dam(36), Obl-%Dam(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(37), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(42), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42)Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39)Level 35: Energy Drain -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(40)Level 38: Char -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Rchg(48), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50)Level 41: Melt Armor -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(42), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(43), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46)Level 44: Fire Ball -- OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(45), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(45), OvrFrc-End/Rech(45)Level 47: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Heal(43), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(46)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(39)Level 18: Double JumpLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Core Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior AllyLevel 50: Assault Radial Embodiment------------ 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
Bill Z Bubba Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Copied my db/nrg scrapper to test since I didn't want to burn through any more transcendents. Chain is BF, SS, AS, repeat. Musc Core, Ageless Core, Degen Core, Assault Core, Pyronic Core, all used. 2:11 2:32 2:47 RNG appears angry at me tonight.
Bill Z Bubba Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Copied my swipe-only/inv scrapper to beta. T4ed Musc Core, Degen Core, Ageless Radial, Assault Core. No Pyronic as that wouldn't be kosher. *IF* assault core was perma, she would eventually take it down. However, it isn't, so she can't. 😞 1
StriderIV Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, SomeGuy said: I did a test run just to get the chain down (literally just adding nimble slice as opposed to the other one) with t3 muscle and t4 ageless. I didn't even have HOs slotted yet. Zero acc/dmg slotted 😄 End is definitely not an issue. Actually changing some of the build around because of that to get some more hp and hp/s. I definitely foresee my pylon time getting under two minutes once done, not sure if I'll average as low as @leeowensoas, but crazy ST DPS isn't why I rolled DB/ENA anyways. I just have always like DB and the current iteration of ENA. Hide contents This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsRebornClick this DataLink to open the build!Sir Leeford: Level 50 Natural ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Blaze MasteryHero Profile:Level 1: Nimble Slash -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dam%(3), GldStr-%Dam(5), TchofDth-Dam%(5)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(7), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(7), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), Ksm-ToHit+(48)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), GldStr-%Dam(11), TchofDth-Dam%(13), TchofLadG-%Dam(13), AchHee-ResDeb%(15)Level 4: Dampening Field -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(15), Ags-ResDam(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(23)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25), GssSynFr--Build%(27), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(27)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(17), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 16: Energy Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(31), GldArm-ResDam(31)Level 18: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34), Erd-%Dam(36), Obl-%Dam(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(37), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(42), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42)Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39)Level 35: Energy Drain -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(40)Level 38: Char -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Rchg(48), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50)Level 41: Melt Armor -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(42), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(43), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46)Level 44: Fire Ball -- OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(45), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(45), OvrFrc-End/Rech(45)Level 47: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Heal(43), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(46)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(39)Level 18: Double JumpLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Core Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior AllyLevel 50: Assault Radial Embodiment------------ This build looks SUPER solid. How do you feel DB/Energy compares to Claws/Energy? I see you put the scrapper set in Typhoon’s Edge. What is the main reason for that? I need to just get over the animation for that move, since it’s one of the only AOE’s 😂
SomeGuy Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 14 hours ago, StriderIV said: This build looks SUPER solid. How do you feel DB/Energy compares to Claws/Energy? I see you put the scrapper set in Typhoon’s Edge. What is the main reason for that? I need to just get over the animation for that move, since it’s one of the only AOE’s 😂 I'm biased as all get out towards claws. You ask me the best melee set and the answer is gonna be claws. I love the aesthetics, quickness, playstyle, just most of the things about it. @Bill Z Bubba get's that bias. I personally love both claws and DB but I give the nod to claws. DB plays awesome to me and I really like the aesthetics of holding two weapons. Coolness factor. The ATO1 set? Just a really good place to put the set to me. Nothing fancy. And not like I need to actively use the ATO1 proc all the time. It's passive. @leeowensoas does the same thing with his DB/SR. 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
SomeGuy Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 7:30 PM, leeowensoas said: Hybrid Radial ON, no lores, temps, or p2w my best run was 1:17. 77 SECONDS! With no Bio, Shield, or Fire to boost damage, just Doublehit and a solid 3-4 procs in every attack (with 0 slotted recharge) I've been doing some runs with my DB/ENA this post motivated me to try, and I'm getting 90-100s range and was wondering how you managed 77. You had assault on. I kept thinking that was an average for you. 😄 Paired with ENA, this guy is actually very survivable. ENA is just a great armor set. I'm tempted to try this with the DB/BIO and see what happens. That would just be a curiosity thing, cause I did do almost all the melee sets paired with bio to get an idea how they stack up with each other. 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
Sovera Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, SomeGuy said: I've been doing some runs with my DB/ENA this post motivated me to try, and I'm getting 90-100s range and was wondering how you managed 77. You had assault on. I kept thinking that was an average for you. 😄 Paired with ENA, this guy is actually very survivable. ENA is just a great armor set. I'm tempted to try this with the DB/BIO and see what happens. That would just be a curiosity thing, cause I did do almost all the melee sets paired with bio to get an idea how they stack up with each other. Minute and a half is something I dream about when my non procced, non Moonbeam, build had me giving up at 2:30 and the pylon still at a third of its HP. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.
Microcosm Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 16 hours ago, SomeGuy said: I've been doing some runs with my DB/ENA this post motivated me to try, and I'm getting 90-100s range and was wondering how you managed 77. You had assault on. I kept thinking that was an average for you. 😄 Paired with ENA, this guy is actually very survivable. ENA is just a great armor set. I'm tempted to try this with the DB/BIO and see what happens. That would just be a curiosity thing, cause I did do almost all the melee sets paired with bio to get an idea how they stack up with each other. Bio generally won't do it as well because it doesn't have the +rech bonus and this chain with procs requires a lot of global recharge. You can do stuff like this with bio, but you'll have to pump everything into recharge and not do as much defense, so you'll end up with a build that folds like a wet paper towel. This is why Bio is not always the answer. Billz did it on the previous page, for a small improvement, basically matching the top Stalker db times of about 1:30. To me that's not a decent trade at all, as the Stalkers in question are much sturdier than the bio build has to end up being. 1 Inspiration maker's guide
SomeGuy Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Microcosm said: Bio generally won't do it as well because it doesn't have the +rech bonus and this chain with procs requires a lot of global recharge. You can do stuff like this with bio, but you'll have to pump everything into recharge and not do as much defense, so you'll end up with a build that folds like a wet paper towel. This is why Bio is not always the answer. Billz did it on the previous page, for a small improvement, basically matching the top Stalker db times of about 1:30. To me that's not a decent trade at all, as the Stalkers in question are much sturdier than the bio build has to end up being. I literally just done doing some averages with my DB/BIO built this way. It was averaging 80s. About 25s faster than the DB/ENA. The ENA is definitely sturdier, and would be way sturdier if no longer doing proc build. Going through the process of getting Snipe on the DB/ENA right now for as equal a comparison as possible. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsRebornClick this DataLink to open the build!Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Bio ArmorPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu MasteryHero Profile:Level 1: Nimble Slash -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(40), TchofDth-Dam%(43), Mk'Bit-Dam%(43), GldStr-%Dam(45)Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), TchofDth-Dam%(3), GldStr-%Dam(5), TchofLadG-%Dam(23), AchHee-ResDeb%(23)Level 4: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(5), ShlWal-Def(15), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Ksm-ToHit+(48)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Hct-Dam%(9), GldStr-%Dam(11), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(11), GssSynFr--Build%(13)Level 10: AdaptationLevel 12: Inexhaustible -- PrfShf-End%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(42)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(17), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(21)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19)Level 20: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 24: Evolving Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Arm-Dam%(27), Erd-%Dam(31), Obl-%Dam(33), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(33)Level 28: DNA Siphon -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(29), Obl-Acc/Rchg(29), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(33), Rct-Def(48), Rct-ResDam%(50)Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- HO:Nucle(A), Obl-%Dam(36), ScrDrv-Dam%(36), Erd-%Dam(36), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(37)Level 38: Zapp -- HO:Nucle(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Apc-Dam%(39), GldJvl-Dam%(39), StnoftheM-Dam%(40), Dcm-Build%(40)Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(42), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(49), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50)Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48)Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(46)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 49: Quick FormLevel 20: Double JumpLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 10: Defensive AdaptationLevel 10: Efficient AdaptationLevel 10: Offensive Adaptation------------ Edited January 24, 2022 by SomeGuy 4 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
Enots Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Microcosm said: Bio generally won't do it as well because it doesn't have the +rech bonus and this chain with procs requires a lot of global recharge. You can do stuff like this with bio, but you'll have to pump everything into recharge and not do as much defense, so you'll end up with a build that folds like a wet paper towel. This is why Bio is not always the answer. Billz did it on the previous page, for a small improvement, basically matching the top Stalker db times of about 1:30. To me that's not a decent trade at all, as the Stalkers in question are much sturdier than the bio build has to end up being. Most of my best theroycrafted builds are actually /electricarmor. Damage aura, conserve power replica, and +recharge. 2
SomeGuy Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) These are proc builds. I blame @leeowensoas for me wasting my time. DB/ENA/MA (Melt Armor) 1:44 (104s) Average DB/ENA/Snipe 1:40 (100s) Average DB/BIO/Snipe 1:20 (80s) Average @Bill Z Bubba might be interested in this part, it's really his comment that got me thinking. With the DB/ENA/Snipe I tried BOTH Assault +DMG and DBL Hit. The time was close enough to the same with +DMG it didn't make me think that serious about toggling it on. But double hit...I was consistently getting times 15s lower than with +DMG and the average. My theory why? I've been able to see myself get close to the damage cap solo a LOT with just Blinding Feint, Empower, the BU proc in BF, and the BU proc in snipe. +DMG starts getting diminishing returns at that point and DBL Hit starts to pull ahead. This is the current build for my DB/ENA/Snipe. I gotta say, it's way sturdier than I anticipated for something as damage oriented as it is. ENA is a beast. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsRebornClick this DataLink to open the build!Sir Leeford: Level 50 Natural ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu MasteryHero Profile:Level 1: Nimble Slash -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dam%(3), GldStr-%Dam(5), TchofDth-Dam%(5)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(7), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(7), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), Ksm-ToHit+(9)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), GldStr-%Dam(11), TchofDth-Dam%(13), TchofLadG-%Dam(13), AchHee-ResDeb%(15)Level 4: Dampening Field -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(15), Ags-ResDam(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(23)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25), GssSynFr--Build%(27), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(27)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(17), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 16: Energy Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(31), GldArm-ResDam(31)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48)Level 22: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34), Erd-%Dam(36), Obl-%Dam(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(37), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(42), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42)Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 35: Energy Drain -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 38: Zapp -- HO:Nucle(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apc-Dam%(46), GldJvl-Dam%(48), StnoftheM-Dam%(48), Dcm-Build%(50)Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(42), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46)Level 44: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 47: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Heal(43), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(46)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(39)Level 18: Double JumpLevel 49: Quick FormLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Core Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior AllyLevel 50: Assault Radial Embodiment------------ Edited January 26, 2022 by SomeGuy 3 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0
StriderIV Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, SomeGuy said: These are proc builds. I blame @leeowensoas for me wasting my time. DB/ENA/MA (Melt Armor) 1:44 (104s) Average DB/ENA/Snipe 1:40 (100s) Average DB/BIO/Snipe 1:20 (80s) Average @Bill Z Bubba might be interested in this part, it's really his comment that got me thinking. With the DB/ENA/Snipe I tried BOTH Assault +DMG and DBL Hit. The time was close enough to the same with +DMG it didn't make me think that serious about toggling it on. But double hit...I was consistently getting times 15s lower than with +DMG and the average. My theory why? I've been able to see myself get close to the damage cap solo a LOT with just Blinding Feint, Empower, the BU proc in BF, and the BU proc in snipe. +DMG starts getting diminishing returns at that point and DBL Hit starts to pull ahead. This is the current build for my DB/ENA/Snipe. I gotta say, it's way sturdier than I anticipated for something as damage oriented as it is. ENA is a beast. Hide contents This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.0.10https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsRebornClick this DataLink to open the build!Sir Leeford: Level 50 Natural ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: Energy AuraPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu MasteryHero Profile:Level 1: Nimble Slash -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dam%(3), GldStr-%Dam(5), TchofDth-Dam%(5)Level 1: Kinetic Shield -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(7), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(7), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), Ksm-ToHit+(9)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), GldStr-%Dam(11), TchofDth-Dam%(13), TchofLadG-%Dam(13), AchHee-ResDeb%(15)Level 4: Dampening Field -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(15), Ags-ResDam(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(23)Level 8: Blinding Feint -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25), GssSynFr--Build%(27), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(27)Level 10: Entropic Aura -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Power Shield -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def(17), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 16: Energy Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(31), GldArm-ResDam(31)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)Level 20: Energy Cloak -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48)Level 22: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- HO:Nucle(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34), Erd-%Dam(36), Obl-%Dam(36)Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(37), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg(42), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42)Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 35: Energy Drain -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 38: Zapp -- HO:Nucle(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apc-Dam%(46), GldJvl-Dam%(48), StnoftheM-Dam%(48), Dcm-Build%(50)Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(42), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46)Level 44: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 47: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Heal(43), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(46)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(39)Level 18: Double JumpLevel 49: Quick FormLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Degenerative Core Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior AllyLevel 50: Assault Radial Embodiment------------ SOLID build man, looks great. 1
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