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It has been few years since I worked on the River Rat locations but if I recall correctly I based my numbering off what was on vidiotmaps, so the numbering should be consistent there as well.
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I redid the waypoints and added the names that are used in the Badge Tracker. Order seems to now be the same using either ATC's BadgeSetList menu, or the wiki and all matching points, unless I typoed. https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/River_Rat_Badge
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Yep. Except for the Freebies popmenu, they're all available at level 0 on Live. It's the macro that is awarded. LOL So maybe "Macro Accolades" isn't a terrible name, even if there is some overlap. "Badge Accolades" concern themselves which what is needed to acquire the accolade. "Power Accolades" concern themselves with the powers that come as a result of the badges. Since the popmenus are active without the player doing anything, the only portion that is "awarded" is the macro. In my opinion, the top 3 names that have arisen are: Macro Accolades Menu Accolades Popmenu Accolades All of them work I think, but I'm leaning toward "Macro Accolades". So unless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and name them that.
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Poor choice of words on my part I suppose. I am not in IT so I sometimes use incorrect terms. I merely meant that these popmenus are included with the game files and provided by the devs, not modded in by dopes like me. And for the record I did mention the freebies menu, it is currently my baby after all. Technically both the fast travel and the hologram matrix menus can be accessed without being earned. They can simply be opened with the popmenu slash command. The fast travel popmenu was created by me (with some polish by Jacke) at the behest of the devs, but the hologram matrix menu was Cobalt Arachne's creation, I believe.
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The pop-up menus - if I recall correctly - were actually created by a player and then the DEVs started using them. If I recall there is a thread somewhere about how to make them and there might be more examples of pop-up menus that have been created by players there. I would just call the main page "Pop-up Menus" because I think most players have been using that term. I don't think that the AE one really counts, but I haven't unlocked that one on any characters ... at least I don't think that I have, so I'm unsure what that one looks like nor the costume one (which might be able to be generated by players themselves or something similar without having to unlock it).
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Ah ha! I knew if I asked someone would have a good idea! 🙂 Is "Server-side" good enough as a name? In truth, they're all part of the game client (in the bins/piggs)... not really on the server side. There's also editbaseoptions.mnu and freebies.mnu, in addition to the other 2 you mentioned, ATC... for a total of 5. You're right, UA, the Fast Travel and Hologram Matrix popmenus are the only ones awarded to players rather than just automatically part of the game (like the other 3). A couple days ago I created a page for the popmenus called "Official Game Popmenus", but I didn't intend for it to be anything other than a jumping off point for the popmenus' code. https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Official_Game_Popmenus Hmmmmmm. You guys are jogging my memory. In the patch notes I27P1, the devs refer to the "Fast Travel Menu" as a "Macro Accolade", probably because it comes in the form of a macro in the power trays. There are other macro accolades, the Hologram Matrix and the Architect Comlink (but that last one is awarded by a badge). "Macro Accolades" will have overlap into the badge accolade category. So maybe a good name would be "Menu Accolades"?
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You could create a page for server-side popmenus and include it there, along with the freebies menu, the quickchat menu (the little menu at the end of the chat bar), and include at least a reference to the costume popmenu even though that one is tied to earning a badge. There may be other server-side popmenus but those are the ones that spring to mind.
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Let me explain a little so you can see why I'm at a loss... The Fast Travel "accolade" macro/menu is NOT awarded by getting a badge, so it can't go with the rest of the badge accolades. It also can't go on the page with accolade powers because it's not a power, it's a menu that lists other powers. That leaves absolutely no where on the wiki to place the thing, and yet I kind of think it should be placed with others because it's an "accolade". Boggling. Just FYI, the Fast Travel accolade is awarded when any of the travel powers within it are attained by a character. So if you get the Long Range Teleporter, you get Fast Travel. If you get the Pocket D teleporter, you get Fast Travel, if you get the Ourborus Portal, you get Fast Travel, etc. Although you can acquire the Long Range Teleporter by being awarded the Passport badge, it's not the badge that awards Fast Travel, it's the power. So where the heck does Fast Travel go? Should it just be its own page? A one of a kind thing?
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I am... officially unemployeed.
BlackSpectre replied to Michiyo's topic in Unofficial Homecoming Wiki's Forum
Not knowing where your next paycheck will come from or how you will make a living is inherently uncertain. You don’t know where life will be taking you and you’re preemptively saying goodbye to us just in case the unthinkable happens and you are forced to spend less time with us or worse no time. And I for one appreciate your gesture. It shows you care, and in my book that’s what is most important. My work situation is also up in the air at the moment, so I completely understand where you’re coming from. I am grateful you took the time to set up this wiki when no one else would. I was asking for a Homecomjng wiki when Homecoming first started up. Your gracious and generosity shines through everything you do and I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. I know I’m not the only one here at the wiki who thinks this, but I am very thankful for you, and hold you in high esteem. Another way of saying this is merely that I’m very fond of you. Thank you for giving us wiki editors a place where we can make a difference. All that said, don’t worry overly much. You’ll always have a home here, even if you disappear for years. It is Homecoming, after all. So go. Focus on what you need to, and get things settled and your life stable again. There’s an old saying “RL>COH”, and it’s not wrong. I doubt there is anything I can do to help, but if there is please don’t hesitate to ask. So good luck, @Michiyo. I hope for a quick and speedy resolution to your situation, and that it all works out well. Just always remember you’re a hero. Act like it, even if you don’t believe it, and things will work out. -
I am... officially unemployeed.
starro replied to Michiyo's topic in Unofficial Homecoming Wiki's Forum
Best of luck! Ty all you do. Victory has been a new quiet place to play my favorite game. My own employer started to swing the opposite direction this summer after years of small growth even under Covid and cost cutting by eliminating office space and other non people overhead but no more. My own team just eliminated open vacant jobs and plans not to backfill jobs with upcoming fall retirements. The revenue forecast is shifting from optimistic break even to negative or now super negative for FY 26/27 with promised government program dollars cut (we are still obligated to provide services), tariffs up/down and ever present inflation nibbling on things. -
I am... officially unemployeed.
WanderingAries replied to Michiyo's topic in Unofficial Homecoming Wiki's Forum
Sooner than later and hopefully even better at paying the personal bills / fueling the personal 'fun' -
What does this mean for the Wiki and you fine folks? Nothing really... Every month folks make sure there is enough to keep the lights on. And assuming that doesn't change, then the wiki will stay up. It does however mean, that since I'll (hopefully) be getting a new job at some point soon, I likely won't have as much time available to fix things. My current job was WFH, and it's REALLY unlikely I'll get lucky and fall into another one of those. I.. don't know what I really intended to say here... Thank you all, for everything you do. Every one of you have made the wiki a better place for everyone to learn from. I'm glad I'm able to help in giving that a place to be. Thank you.
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Need help, How to do screenshots without UI?
Raffzahn replied to Raffzahn's topic in Unofficial Homecoming Wiki's Forum
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BlackSpectre has it covered above but I'll share a couple of keybinds I use in case that might be helpful. You could probably make macros of these as well if you want. The conprint portion gives me feedback as to which type of screenshot I have just taken. COMMA "conprint "UI ON"$$screenshotui 1$$screenshot" CTRL+COMMA "conprint "UI OFF"$$screenshotui 0$$screenshot" I've attached a transparent overlay that I have overlain on screenshots that show a badge marker. I made it myself so it might not be quite as nice as some you see on the wiki, but it might work well enough. It doesn't seem to want to attach as a file, but you can right click and save as to download it. And I just realized you needed one for history plaques, so I created this one
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Need help, How to do screenshots without UI?
BlackSpectre replied to Raffzahn's topic in Unofficial Homecoming Wiki's Forum
Use the slash command /screenshotui to both disable (0) and enable (1) the UI. https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Screenshotui_(Slash_Command) -
The assemblage of wiki pages that comprise The Players Guide to the Cities is not only huge, not only incomplete and unfinished, but I think the title needs to be changed as well (it's just too long!). In fact, it's such a mess that the whole thing might need to be reworked or eliminated. If we are allowed to post/host the official game guide from NCsoft, that might be a much easier solution. Here's a guide that was published for the Canadian gamers http://www.cityofheroes.ca/game_info/official_guides/official_city_of_heroes_manual.html . I also have another version of the guide released in the US, and also a City of Villains Guide, and maybe even a Going Rogue Guide (not sure about this one). That said, there are many pages in that huge TPGTTC wiki guide that are extremely useful and no matter what should not be removed. In some cases it's the only place at the wiki that the information is mentioned. Proposed title change from "The Player's Guide to the Cities" to simply "Player Guide". Alternate titles could be "Game Manual", "Game Guide", "Player Manual". What do you think?
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I thought it being a good idea to add pages for the new Kallisti badges, so I started to add a 'Patron of the Arts Badge' article. No big deal, except I couldn't find any information how to do a screenshot without the UI - so those pictures suck. Any idea? Likewise how those nice crosshair + text were made. Would also be nice to find something about that somewhere. Gruss H.
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OK. So from what I'm hearing is... do whatever you like as long as you preserve the history, more or less. Re: changing the wiki policy on player guides -- in the last 4 years I've only seen 1 person with a plan to put a player guide on the wiki (and I don't even think they followed through with that). So I guess it's not much of an issue. Therefore, I'm going to go ahead and change the policy page myself. No-one has offered an objection to eliminating player guides, so I guess it's ok. And I'll go ahead and bring all the player guides into the wiki proper. While I do that, I'll look them over for inaccuracies and data that's no longer current at Homecoming. If there are any player guides that are purely opinion, I'll add a comment at the top of the page noting that. So when free time pops up, I'll start working on this project. Thanks for talking @Doc_Scorpion, @AboveTheChemist amd @Kai Moon. Appreciated.
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As for copyright issues, Paragonwiki is GNU FDL, so is Homecoming Wiki. FDL allows copying and modifying, as long as the authors get credit. 1) Forking to a new site, with the same license, and importing the edit histories (credits), was okay 2) Editing a page adds your name to the history, without taking anyone else's off, so is okay 3) Using the Mediawiki "move" function to move a page to a new title preserves its history, so is okay 4) Writing a new page based on an old page, without the old page's history (no credit to previous authors), might not be okay TLDR From a copyright standpoint, just edit and move if needed, it's fine