TheSpiritFox

Beasts need more AOE. Simple, add or replace attacks to add to aoe damage. Needs a mule for pet uniques. Ninjas need survivability. Give them some kinda inherent defense, an aura from the lts like other sets, something that will help them stay alive. Needs a mule for pet uniques. Zombies need damage. Speed up their running and reaction pace, give them some more single target and aoe damage. Mercs need everything. Rework the entire goddamn set from the ground up. Needs a mule for pet sets Bots need survivability. Make protector bot bubbles apply in an AOE including to the casting protector bot like it works with other buff sets to reduce downtime on resummons, make repair apply in an AOE and heal your entire team of pets and make it take pet uniques.

Yes please.

Just buff the damage cap for both ATs and buff the base damage a bit as well. I can damage cap myself on my PB with team buffs helping, that's ridiculous that like I can literally just hit inner light and be damage capped.

Thats silly. That's like are you really going to count your "rate of damage" to include the time it takes to toggle on all of your powers? That has nothing to do with doing damage. IMO prep time shouldn't matter you just note what prep is done so you can understand what contexts it is possible to do the DPS you end up achieving. As an MM player no pet summon time has nothing to do with DPS, you do not ever go into a fight and then start summoning pets.

Thugs/Traps MM T4 Musc core T4 Support Core T4 Barrier Core T4 Reactive radial I just did it once, timed it by my barrier, and from casting barrier on a nearby rooftop to pylon death was 80 seconds. So going with that, 607 DPS That's without an assault hybrid, without lore pets, without gang war, without using burnout to drop extra traps, and on an MM build with 0 personal attacks. I think I accidentally clicked the blackwand once lol.

Nature is one of the more powerful secondaries MMs have and beasts are a pretty solid primary. Demons/nature does a bit more damage and is a bit more survivable.

My Thugs/Time is named Jim Bob Duggar and my pets are all J names just like his kids. My demons/nature is named Nurse Joy and has MewTwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle My Bots/traps is named Domo Arregato and every single pet is named Mr. Roboto My Beast/Kin is named Ricky Bobby and has Cal Naughton, Karen, Death Machine, POTUS, Baxter, and Judgement You get the idea.

I mean not if you want to actually tank, which you can totally do on a PB. With a high recharge build and a little defense baked into your set bonuses PBs make pretty solid aggro holders. My taunt is on like a 4-5 second recharge with a 35 second duration like taunting is part of my attack chain in dwarf without interruption so everything wants to kill my dwarf all the time and very little succeeds.

Oh its fucking hilarious when that happens. I've literally been saved by light form crash before, it bridged the time until my heals came back up tanking, I just had to dwarf port away to be able to pop a heal and port back to taunt. Also I LOVE dwarf port I think it's one of the best overall design decisions made for PBs. I love that I have 3 goddamn travel powers at the cost of one power pool pick because I wanted super speed TOO. Like My PB really does feel like a swiss army knife. I have a small heal, I have a stun/mez, I have a nuke, I have massive resists in any form, I took tp friend and super speed/celerity IO early so I can stealth anything anytime, I took goddamn stealth pool for lotg mules and can give friends stealth too! I really am I'm like a Stalker, Sentinel, tank, and misc support all in one. With a self rez if i do something stupid!

Yeah this my recharge is so high my light form has a 9 second overlap between when it comes up and when my hp/end crashes so I just put light form's button on all my hotbars and I can always see the cooldown and I just switch out of dwarf to hit it and back in and crash while in dwarf, dwarf heal, and its almost like theres no crash.

If you dual spec remember that you have to lock your power trays before you switch or else it scrambles everything

Dual spec it. Make a second spec (you can switch builds once a minute with a command that you can turn into a bind or macro) that's just generic IOs but slot everything in your build including the bots for max knockback and recharge, I'd say it would be worth building the build entirely around recharge set bonuses wherever you can get them and otherwise just slotting for knockback everywhere you can. Force feedbacks in literally everything. Hmm. Can bots trigger FF procs on the master? Or would it buff the bots with it which is useless? Make a Max Pain build. If anyone ever complains about your proper kb-kd build hit the button and show them what chaos really means.

Hami Os are only required for thugs and that's because you straight up cannot get the benefit out of your enforces with any set bonus that you can get out of dropping 3 hamis, 2 procs, and a lotg +rech into them. Well idk maybe wolves I heard their proc abilities are stupid high.

If bots had a mule power for the pet sets, like if repair could take pet sets just to let bots have that I'd take repair and probably 4 slot it with pet uniques and if you could do that bots/thermal would be a solid contender. The biggest issue with the build is that it has a particular weakness to mez, not just the bots but you as well. It's far, far less tanky than bots/ea. Pros - AOE heal and single target heal are good for helping keep bots alive - Shields are fire and forget even if it takes two powers to cover all the resists - Forge + assault bot is a very good combo. Most of your damage as bots comes from burn patch missiles - Melt armor is a solid debuff - Heat exhaustion plus bots is alot of -regen on an AV Cons - The rez is the only actually at all skippable power in thermal - Defensively weak overall requiring active healing to compensate kinda like how bio has layered defenses. It's not necessarily worse, but if you want your bots alive you have to watch damage more carefully, be ready to target and heal or hit your aoe heal. - Not being at the softcap means getting hit more often by everything including mez - Mez buff is single target, applying it to all your bots will suck if needed, and it doesn't cover knockback which is one of the things that fucks pets up the most. To be fair, lots of sets do not protect pets from knockback, but bots/ea has that covered. - Mastermind itself is weak. Build absolutely needs a decent recharge build with hasten to be effective at higher levels of play. +4 content will see pets dying whether grouped or solo often probably, incarnate content you will have to stay with a group, speed running will be an absolute pain to impossible between bots set up time with protector bot bubble casts (esp in combat lol) so resummoned bots will have like no defenses. - Bots cannot fit all the pet uniques which is really needed when blending a resistance set with a defense set either way with MMs. - Tankermiding not an option as you have zero mez protection and building around being able to tank and take mez will eliminate alot of recharge options needed to actually get the most out of your secondary. - Zero control soft or hard of any kind to help mitigate damage - Kinda requires electric fences for the above reason to at least keep things in burn patches and grouped for melt armor when it's up, but might also need bonfire to help it survive at higher levels. Overall it's a really active set, and like seeing if your pets are like held and clearing them actively is alot of potential micromanagement, you only have shields and heals to keep things alive. Shields are two powers instead of one which is really just old powerset bloat and power inefficiency which sucks I'd like to see them combined and a new power given that does something else like some kinda soft control but hey lots of powersets need some kinda work done on them. Kinetics is an objectively terrible powerset overall it just does a few tricks that no one else does and one in particular that is like sure yeah we'll include you in everything purely for fulcrum shift everyone loves being damage capped why not. If I was going to pair something with thermal it would be beasts, which can at need softcap themselves, demons or zombies, because both are resistance based, or thugs, because leadership is just ON and the set can fit all of the pet uniques very easily while still like putting procs in the pets and shit and compared to bots will do muuuuuch better as a hybrid MM. Bots? EA is great. Nature is good. Sonic is horrible. FF is boring which to me is beyond horrible. Thermal is between nature and sonic. If you want to throw dark in, Dark is between EA and Nature. Time is above EA and so are traps and cold. Will it work? Sure. Will you resummon alot of bots? Yeah you will. Will you be able to handle high level content? Play it like a support character. You're not there to tank, you're there to act like a corruptor only you have pets instead of blasts. If you think about it more from that perspective, then you could be like an overall tankier corruptor but still something that can die if you take the alpha from a group.

Among your characters? I picked my TW/Bio scrapper to be my converting alt and while she's not always the character with the most money that's only when she's emptied her pockets to an alt and started converting again. It amused me to pick my most OP character to also be my richest. At the same time some of you are juggling 50 billion (what the hell do you need or would you even use that for jesus yall) and I'm sure that changes the dynamic alot. But I'm curious about everyones stupid little thought processes. Who among your characters do you give your money to and why lol. Who are the workhorses of your economic fleet if you have one?

I fish for every single converter I put up and often do not stop until I have something worth at least 3 million that doesn't have a ton of options up. Like, out of 80 IOs listed it is genuinely not uncommon for me to list at least 6 pieces of LOTG something and if I get like the end rech I WILL convert in set. I play my 50s quite alot. I have 11 of them now and a number of them are at vet level 30+. I try characters out and if I really like it I'll PL it to 50 and give it the most expensive build I can come up with for it and then incarnate it and incarnating 50s is what i would call my version of "leveling" a character. I don't do that that often so I currently have 2 level 1 alts with a billion influence parked on them and I have over a thousand reward merits stacked up purely from running TFs in my email and like converter crafting to the point I have a third level 1 alt that will have a billion before I feel like picking up the first one to do anything with it I am gaining more merits playing my 50s than I am spending on converter crafting fishing to my hearts content. So from my needs divided by my playstyle perspective reward merits are an infinite resource and thus so are enhancement converters. Fishing his how I maximize my influence/time. If I'm going to go through the effort of listing a few more clicks converting to something actually worthwhile is nice. If I get lucky of course I throw it up, but I've also wasted 30 converters on a single enhancement to end up with an IO that sells for 5 million. Doesn't matter. I still have more merits than I can spend and my pile continues to grow despite doing as much converting as I can stomach and far more converting than I actually need to do based on how fast I feel like tricking out alts. Lmao I haven't logged into my farmer in 34 days

I get that. Another way to make money. Its what I suspected though, insanely monotonous for the return you get and less money/hour than converting by a good bit cause yeah I have about the same experience. I started buying recipes in bulk, I go list for certain recipes at 10k and bid 3 stacks of 9 so that by the time I converter craft I'm filling my 80 recipe slots with like 4 different IOs and I can buy salvage in the same number of stacks and quickly make them and start converting. Takes about an hour to do a round of 80 from login to final listing and since I am using my own merits to buy all of my converters I end up usually making about 300-350 million after it's all said and done converting and listing on the AH with an initial investment that's pretty damn small all things considered. Super packs sounds like it might be comparable to farming infl/hour at times and if that's the case nuuuu I'd rather cause inflation than deflation lmao

Lmao. I would genuinely like to know how much influence you make in total and how many hours or whatever it takes you to deal with all of this, from claiming to listing them all. I'm kinda curious what the influence/hour of effort this actually is and how intensive and monotonous the experience ends up being. Even converter crafting gives you something to think about this sounds mind numbingly mindless, looking forward to your experience!

That two extra zero feeling >D

I swear to god if I have another day where converting a defense set to another defense set bounces back and forth between gift of the ancients and karma 20 fucking times I'm going to reach through my screen and punch the server in the face.

It depends on how you're funding your converter crafting. I am not an altaholic and only converter craft as a way to make money that takes alot less time overall than farming does. At the same time, I like TFs and merits just stack up if i don't spend them on something. So I get a bit wasteful with my converter crafting because I am using a resource that stacks up faster than I spend them thus being essentially unlimited and a few extra conversions for a bigger sale means I have to convert and craft fewer ios to make my income goals when I have some and it's well worth it to like seek to only post IOs that are worth 3 million or more. I use about 400 converters per 80 IOs listed on the market and am at this point at like 800 merits and climbing in my email so i need to go waste a bunch more converters sometime soon for money I don't need for alts I am not making lmao

At the point at which I have a billion in email I start throwing money at anyone who vaguely mentions being new to the game.

I make my influence farming and converter crafting. It's pretty easy both ways. If I really like want to immediately fund an alt I'll go craft 80 ios, convert and list them, then jump on a farmer and farm for a while. Mixing the two lets me make influence pretty damn quickly when I need to. I currently have probably like 1.5-2 billion scattered across my characters. My market alt usually tries to have a billion around in case I find a build I want to throw together or something. I'm pretty wasteful with converters, I spend about 400 converters per 80 enhancements listed. But I also like will throw up 6-8 LOTG IOs because I convert defense ios that aren't worth anything until I get LOTG even if I waste 20 converters doing it. I get my converters from my massive stack of unused reward merits so at this point I could be alot more wasteful as I have more merits every week than I did the week before no matter how much converting I can stand doing.

I use them to be alot pickier about what I put on the market converter crafting. Do some in set conversions if it nets me an extra million, don't settle for the 2 million IO thats got 500 copies of it listed. If I craft and convert 80 enhancements I'll often list 6-8 LOTGs cause I'll gladly convert in type until I get them if I get like gift of the ancients. I earn merits faster than I spend them doing this, I generally go through about 400 converters per 80 enhancements listed.

I gave Zombies/Elec a try and like I really tried to like it, but I realized that zombies as melee pets are just underwhelming as fuck and without like the zippiness of beast/kin melee pets are always just irritating as fuck to have to try to control and wait for them to wander around to smack enemies a few times. It felt slow solo and worse in groups. The best thing they could do for Zombies that would make me actually play them is give them some 28 Days Later fast zombie animations so they can at least like sprint from group to group with some kinda actual menace. No the zombies hurr durr their way around the level and it feels like I am babysitting disabled people not playing a class.