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Exactly! And being able to use Ninja Run as a travel power, with the weapon sets (love Ninja Run with Dual Pistols) it was one little benefit that had no real impact on anything. Terrible to see they think it needs to go. I just saw it as one of the little pluses of the set. Like SR or ElecA getting +SPD passives

There was never a reason or a need to do that though. With that line of thinking, we may as well be saying, all the melee sets should have a range attack, because plenty of them do.

No, it doesn't. Because that's been the problem with all powersets for all ATs from the start. Taking a power, they may not want. I wouldn't even say they've forced people to take the power. DPS wise, it sounds like people are saying EP is better still. I am however, all for them only have the two spenders, however, I liked the idea of giving those with EM as a Primary a reason to decide between T1 or T2.

Losing the movement buffs is terrible. Sprint + Swift + Ninja Run + Shinobi-Iri was ❤️

In an MMO? Yes.

😕 No Ninja Running with Shinobi-Iri? That's lame. Why would you even get rid of this? It was one perk of Ninjitsu and nothing game breaking. Can Super Speed get the Ninja Run animation to even this out?

Always baffles me how people think a little travel in an MMO is to much work. 😛 Now those people will get a power slot back for something else, and everyone can have the fun of the power. I admit, I haven't had the power since live, but that's only because I never remade my concept that required that power!

Nevermind

I was using Fire Melee as a stand in, but PC is a PBAOE in game (thought it was supposed to be Targeted AOE). Got some play time in, and OMG! Am I just to used to taking Tactics, because I don't have it in current build and I missed a lot! O.O

Well, LGTF is team content and those teams don't always come with Trollers/Doms. It's why I like getting a hold into my Scrapper builds.

^This. I'm not even going to color change those pom poms! I don't even recall if I could change the colors at the time I mained EM, but I didn't change them then, didn't change them on my HC Brute, not going to change them on my Scrapper! I should say, I like the idea of increasing Barrage's chance to Stun. I think it needs something to make people go "Hmmm...Energy Punch of Barrage" even if it's just for a second before "Highest DPA attack!"

I agree. If people don't like a set's single target focus, they can pick a different set.

Just curious, but why not have Power Crash be a single target attack with 100% stun, that when used with Energy Focus, becomes a cone with more damage? Or is the idea to give Bone Smasher the 100% Stun with EF, to make people choose more?

Just curious, but why not have Power Crash be a single target attack with 100% stun, that when used with Energy Focus, becomes a cone with more damage? Or is the idea to give Bone Smasher the 100% Stun with EF, to make people choose more?

They don't get to make use of lots of things until level 35 or 38. No Crushing Uppercut until level 38. No Sweep Combo until level 38. Tankers having to wait long for things pertaining to melee, is basically what it means to be a Tanker.

I believe Crushing Uppercut has been the highest I've seen in play.

Why? The Double FC is a product of their inherent powers, not a product of the set. Not getting double damage, so tack on a double FC. If double FC is passed around, will full critical happen on TF for Scrappers and Stalkers? Do they get the Fury and punch voke?

Just curious, wasn't the idea of Momentum, to get a speed boost on the attacks, but maintain the damage formula as if slow attacks? Not, get two different damage formula's for an attack, one when in momentum and one, when not in momentum?

I love Barrage, all for seeing it get some love. Don't see the issue with TF being needed to be used first to get the AOE for PC. Target the toughest target first with TF, hit the two AOEs for everything else, instead of hitting the AOEs and finishing them off with the ST. EM's focus is and should stay ST.

True. So, the question is, do you feel you need the 100% Stun over more damage? Do you want the 100% Stun with some -Special/-Regen (which I personally don't feel it needs).

Got on just a bit and made a EM/Regen Scrapper ❤️ No real level up, as I didn't know of the freebie menu at the time, but so far, just having Energy Melee on Scrappers is love 🙂

I get what you're saying. However, that's just called attacking. Want to 1 shot two minions in a row fast? TF > ET. Enemy won't go down in one hit? Faster to go TF > ET than ET > TF. And when I play EM and go after those single strong targets, I used both attacks. So, really, with that logic, you may as well be saying ET really equals TF > ET > BS > EP > Repeat or some such. Only now, you can go TF > PC > WH for those times you'd rather have more AOE. That's the only difference this "combo" system really seems to do. "Do you want fast ST or do want to have a bit more AOE?"

When I lost ET fast attack on Live. Well, I shelved it because I just didn't like the new ET animation. Still not the biggest fan of it on HC, but I just love EM. So, tried to get my main back to EM. Having ET sped up only when used after TF, isn't bad and pretty much gives the speed up all the time, unless you do something wonky with your recharge times. And, while I wasn't one who thought EM needed more AOE (not if it stepped on the ST DPS toes), the changes give people that option too, which isn't bad. However, it just means, one sacrifices the ST DPS (fast ET) to go the AOE route (unless they crit). Not the way I'd have gone with it. I wouldn't really call EM a big combo set, as I play those. 😛 And really, even the sets that aren't combos, one tends to have an attack order for best damage and then throwing in the side attacks for whatever reason.

Spinning Strike, in Street Justice, takes Targeted AOE IOs. If you need a target to use, I believe is when you use Targeted AOE IOs.

I don't know. I'd say Dual Pistols wasn't pulling any power creep for the set. However, the numbers have me thinking a few things with the test down by Galaxy Brain. I do feel some sets should be ST King versus AOE kings and then those in the middle. However, should TW be that far ahead of Fire Melee, which maybe should be pretty solid in both areas, while not top, seeing as how TW has the nice KD going for it. 🙂