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I think it's time to just port Energy Melee to Scrappers, see how it works on Scrappers, while making whatever other improvements are needed. This includes letting ET actually Crit and not just "no health spent" like on Stalkers 😛

No, but changing it to Targeted AOE (Mag 3 Stun on Target with the damage on target and those around the target at current damage) players could slot in the Targetted AOE Damage Procs.

I didn't say it shouldn't be, I said I wouldn't say it. 😛 The reason I don't want to say it, is because obviously, I like the set 🙂 I made an EM/ Brute for my main, because I wanted EM/ that much, but I just prefer Scrappers. I've been tempted to try EM/WP Brute more than once as another go at it, but still...SCRAPPER! I may want to get one of every AT to 50, but in the end Scrapper at heart ❤️

I personally wouldn't want to see Energy Melee get any status effects other than it's stun. As for Stun, the power, I did think the Mag 3 Stun Effect to the main target with AOE around the target of the Stun, wouldn't be bad, if they wanted to add a bit of AOE. Not thinking upping the damage, but it would allow people to Proc it for Damage. I'd play the set as is, if they ported it to Scrappers, which is how much I want it on Scrappers 🙂 Not keen on an aura. Not caring for any ideas that cause the set to have a new mechanic/gimmick. The set should be great ST DPS (I won't say #1, but should certainly be near the top of the list...but so should most ST focused sets) and be pom poms of stun.

I should say, as having a Ninja Stalker, I hardly ever notice the lack of KB. Dark Armor, Fire Armor, and Electric Armor (since the thread is about Electric) are Resist based sets. Yes, Dark Armor has one power to build some defense around, but it's pretty much in the same boat as FA and ElecA. Ninjitsu, however, is all about defense. For it, anyone thing with knock has to first get through the defense, which when built up, isn't really felt that often.

With my idea, the only thing it would hurt is the few who take it, but slotted it with single target melee attack IOs (maybe all the damage procs?). So, the few who took it and then the few who didn't slot it with a stun set. Those who did use the Stun sets aren't effected and instead get splash damage. Could give it the same radius around the target as Spinning Strike, which yes, people keep asking for that to be increased at least by a little bit.

Okay. This would change it up a bit and possibly mess up some slotting for a few, who I'd guess only use it as a set mule, but for Stun and to add a bit more AOE. Stun becomes a Targeted AOE. Main Target gets the Stun at Mag 3, while those around the target get hit with the same low damage, but on the plus side, people can proc it out for more damage. And, like I said, there would be a .05% who'd complain. 🙂

I wouldn't change anything on StJ, but if they wanted to increase the radius a foot or two on Spinning Strike, I wouldn't be opposed. No thank you on the PBAOE. Sure, it'd be nice, because then I could just hit the button and have the nice animation go off when I'm just standing there, but I'd leave it targeted aoe.

Or just replace Stun with Whirling Hands. Simple and done. Live with the .05% who complain. 😛 Stalker's being even better at the ST with their AS shouldn't be bothering (imo anyways) and it'll just be a set that many consider best on Stalker. I'd still make a Scrapper, many would still make a Brute.

What did it do and claim to do, other than be a melee set that did stuns and energy damage with cool pink pom poms? That said, like I said, can always be alternate animations. However, I'd be fine with some animation reduction. I'd also like it ported to Scrappers, where it never made sense that they didn't have it. I'd take it as is for a port to Scrappers, but still, it could use some work, and I'd like Barrage to be better.

You're not the only one who played Energy Melee back on live (you know, because I did too) and my idea could easily be implemented as alternate animations for attacks. Also, it didn't feel like a touch of death, it felt like a quick palm strike. However, as I think on it though, I'd also like to see Barrage get improved so it's equal to or just better than Energy Punch. I love it's animation of a one two punch. And no, one can't just give SJ glowing fists aura, as their is no aura that matched Energy Melee's pom poms 😛 Also, it's not about making it SJ 2.0. It's about giving the set some updated, fancier moves.

The power set isn't called Energy Fists, it's called Energy Melee. Also, who says the energy aspect needs to be in the feet? It's a Energy and Smashing damage attack. Fist attack gives the energy damage and the kick gives smashing damage. Original ET animation didn't look like you were transferring anything. It was called transfer because it took life from you to use.

Because, for that, you're supposed to take Ice Mastery.

I'd disagree on the animations, but I also did say, give it some animation choices as well. Saying that, one may as well say, Martial Arts new animations (from when CoH was live) didn't fit the set. I'd say ET's change didn't fit the set, but there it went and got that longer uglier animation.

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End:50(9) Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(11), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(37) Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(15), Arm-Dam%:50(17), Arm-Dmg:50(17) Level 4: Lightning Field -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg:50(A), FuroftheG-Dam/Rech:50(19), FuroftheG-Dam/End/Rech:50(19), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(21), FuroftheG-ResDeb%:50(21) Level 6: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37) Level 8: Thunder Strike -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury:50(31) Level 10: Static Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(31), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50) Level 12: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A) Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 16: Grounded -- ImpArm-ResPsi:40(A) Level 18: Chain Induction -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Hct-Dam%:50(34), Hct-Dmg:50(36) Level 20: Lightning Reflexes -- Empty(A) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46) Level 24: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(A), Rct-ResDam%:50(42) Level 26: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit:50(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg:50(42), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg:50(43), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx:50(43), AdjTrg-Rchg:50(50) Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Heal:50(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(40), Prv-Absorb%:50(40) Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A) Level 32: Lightning Rod -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), Obl-Acc/Rchg:50(45), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Obl-%Dam:50(46) Level 35: Power Sink -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg:50(A), PrfZng-Dam%:50(46) Level 38: Mu Lightning -- Rui-Dmg/Rchg:40(A), Rui-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(48) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50) Level 44: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%:50(A) Level 47: Lightning Clap -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(A) Level 49: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%:50(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx:50(A), Clr-Stlth:50(37) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+:40(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(3), Pnc-Heal/+End:50(3) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod:50(A), PrfShf-End%:50(5) Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon Level 50: Preemptive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment ------------ This is what I've settled on as of now. Most of it slotted in, but not 100% Maneuvers is really just an IO mule, but if I find I can handle the Endurance use, I like to turn it on in teams, especially when others have it.

It never really bothered me. Just got my newest Elec/Elec Brute to 50 and went from Fly to Mystic Flight. I don't need to fly 100% of the time on the character tho, so that could be an issue with those who want to hover 100% of the time. I wouldn't be against the on ground aspect being lifted tho, if only because I hate it when it doesn't give it to you, because of some uneven ground.

If Stun was replaced by Whirling Hands, I would've made an Energy Melee Stalker before I went Ice Melee. The animation I love and just enough AOE for me (maybe not others). As for Energy Melee, while I could live with just speeding up Total Focus and Energy Transfer, I would, as I've suggested before, replace them with Crushing Uppercut and Spinning Strike (keep it single target) animations for faster animations and leave the damage alone. Also, it just gives it some nice newer animations. One could speed up the old ones to those animation speeds and give some animation options too! Lastly, port it to Scrappers! Some of us don't want to play a Brute!

Exactly. I want to see EM ported to Scrappers and I want to see it be an awesome ST DPS MACHINE! But most importantly, besides the port to Scrappers, I would like to see ET and TF get faster animations.

AOE may be king, but then one can play a set that is AOE focused. Energy Melee was never an AOE focused set. There are plenty of players out there who are happy and want to play sets that are top ranking in ST.

I'd rather see EM stay ST focused with some faster animations on those two big hitters and help it get up there on the ST DPS. I love the stuns too.

Hmmm...I'll have to see if I notice that with Katana users, or it only certain skins?

To be fair, Luke lived on Tatooine and to him Jedi was a story. The other guy was a force sensitive protecting a Jedi place. 😛 As for what to play...Katana/Ninja Additional jump height and speed. Force stealth. Force healing. Force second wind (end recovery).

So, you want Stalkers to have a slottable power, for free, that provides defense and invisibility and they still get to keep their regular critical strikes? o.O As for Fitness being inherent and slottable, remember, Domination is an Inherent power, and is not slottable. If Hide was a free power, I'd have to say get rid of the slots, and possibly the defense of the power, except maybe AOE defense, when hidden.

Sometimes, you have to decide if wasting the slot is worth the bonus it gives. I have builds that use the Damage IO in the purple sets (waste of space) just to get that 6th Bonus that I feel is worth it. Part of IOs is deciding what is okay and what isn't for your build. On my PB, I thought it worth it to put it in every power except the Nuke and went with the idea that people could live with the Nuke KBing 😛

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End:50(9) Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(11), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(37) Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(15), Arm-Dam%:50(17), Arm-Dmg:50(17) Level 4: Lightning Field -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg:50(A), FuroftheG-Dam/Rech:50(19), FuroftheG-Dam/End/Rech:50(19), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(21), FuroftheG-ResDeb%:50(21) Level 6: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37) Level 8: Thunder Strike -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(27), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury:50(31) Level 10: Static Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(31), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50) Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A) Level 16: Grounded -- ImpArm-ResPsi:40(A) Level 18: Chain Induction -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Hct-Dam%:50(34), Hct-Dmg:50(36) Level 20: Lightning Reflexes -- Empty(A) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46) Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A) Level 26: Lightning Clap -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(A) Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Heal:50(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(40), Prv-Absorb%:50(40) Level 30: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit:50(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg:50(42), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx:50(43), AdjTrg-Rchg:50(43) Level 32: Lightning Rod -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), Obl-Acc/Rchg:50(45), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Obl-%Dam:50(46) Level 35: Power Sink -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg:50(A), PrfZng-Acc/Rchg:50(46) Level 38: Mu Lightning -- Rui-Dmg/Rchg:40(A), Rui-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(48) Level 41: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%:50(A) Level 44: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%:50(A) Level 47: Hover -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(A), Rct-ResDam%:50(50) Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx:50(A), Clr-Stlth:50(37) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+:40(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(3), Pnc-Heal/+End:50(3) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod:50(A), PrfShf-End%:50(5) Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon Level 50: Preemptive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment ------------ I'm on Everlasting. However, here's what I've changed it to. 89.6%+ Resist to everything except Negative (57.1%) and Toxic (42.5%), with my goal being to rely on 90% resists and the Self Heal.