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But I do know what I'd fix, a fix Does need to be made as has been demonstrated, and the power is currently worthless.

You don't have to like the idea. I still think it is the best idea that has so far been presented.

@SwitchFade Maybe you weren't in the discussions that have already taken place. There is widespread agreement, with numbers that I have linked you to to back it up, that Confront is not worth taking. I don't need to convince you personally. That work is done. So again, please supply your suggestion for how to fix the power or just let it go.

Yes, we do.

A ton of people do think it needs to be changed. Again, look here: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/fotm-powers/ Almost literally no one takes the power. If you can't accept that evidence then I don't know what to tell you.

That's not acceptable.

That's a separate issue. We can do both.

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/fotm-powers/

I am not trying to buff either specific sets OR scrappers as a whole. I am just trying to make Confront worth taking. I'm not going to continue arguing as to why that is necessary. The devs have already done that.

I'm happy to hear other suggestions of how to fix Confront. But there are real limitations. There is no indication that Scrappers as a whole need either Offensive or Defensive buffs. Certain sets could use help, sure, but that's not what this is about. Any suggestion of how to fix Confront must: A) not improve Scrapper Defensive or Offensive performance directly B) retain the basic concept of singling out an enemy (but need not necessarily remain a Pull ability) C) make the power generally attractive to take for every Scrapper, but not so important that it becomes must have Leaving it as is is NOT an option, as right now Scrappers essentially only get 8 powers in their primary.

If you were right then people wouldn't complain about Follow not taking them to melee while hovering. A button that takes you directly to melee is Fun, first off. Second, it would sometimes help when in Slow or -Jump patches. But mostly, no Confront has no purpose. It is literally the least chosen power in the entire game.

Again, I would love to hear some suggestion. Any suggestion. We have been over and over it in other threads and this is the Only suggestion made so far that adds neither offense nor survivability but does add Something of value.

my suggestion gives them: A: a real gap closer that puts them in melee with their target even if you the player haven't visually located that target B: a gap closer in their own sets, not a power pool

Well, I apologize for being rude. That was not my intention. I disagree with your points though, and that's ok.

We have had multiple threads trying to come up with some replacement for confront that does not overpower scrappers, in other words it really can’t buff either survivability or offense. If you can come up with another suggestion great. Personally I think that this is the best suggestion that anyone has come up with so far, and I don’t think your objections really are all that relevant.

It doesn’t trivialize those powers, that’s not true. Those abilities are giant AOE’s. This ability does no damage at all.

And even more to the point: All scrappers get a range closing ability. It’s called confront, it just doesn’t work very well. My suggestion is just to make it work better.

Given that there are currently two primaries that have such a power and a secondary that has such a power and that there’s a power such as that available in the pools, I don’t think that your objection really stands.

So, incarnate content.

Let me clarify that I agree with you it would be better if sets had individualized confront abilities, but I think that it is a much more difficult fix and just getting it done is worth making it simpler in this way.

Given that confront currently is exactly the same for all sets, I think keeping it exactly the same for all sets is a good idea. Other powers should be used to tweak the weaker sets.

The question has been answered. The answer is more incarnate content, and more difficult incarnate content. None of the rest of the game needs to be changed. There just needs to be more high-level content created that actually challenges people with fully kitted out end game builds.

Black Hole, Detention Field, Sonic Cage...

Please go look at my Confront suggestion!

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/fotm-powers/ Placate is not at the bottom, certainly not near confront, but it's not great.