Wavicle

Ok, true, but the penalty makes it useless for this purpose. Having a toggle on your bar would allow you to CONTROL your Knockback SHOT PER SHOT. Now although there MAY be a legit argument about slotting efficiency, there is no legit argument that says it would be OP to have a powerset that can choose when to KB and when to KD.

What's actually possible absolutely matters.

Well that’s dumb, that’s not my suggestion. a toggle on your bar, so you can switch ANYTIME

No it is not. A toggle means you can change from one Fight to the next, or even during a fight. Builds can only be changed at the trainer.

If Energize is nearly perma you shouldn't have too much in the way of end issues. If it's not then yea there could be a problem. Energy Drain can benefit from slotting for Endurance Modification so it'll fill you up even off of just one enemy.

Thanks, that was very clear. That makes sense. I’ll think about that if I come up with a new design.

Why? Those people who only want it in a couple powers can do that with the current options. People who want it to go away but have more than 6 such powers cannot. This is for those characters.

This makes zero sense. There are already options for those people.

I think I decided leaving it as a purple set is fine.

I'm in favor of SOME kind of universal kb2kd option, but this argument is silly. Those .5 seconds add up to like a minute or two at most over the course of a TF.

But it does have counterbalance. You can't slot it until 50. It requires 6 slots in the power. You have to earn the enhancements. You can only have up to 5 Purple sets. The set lacks +Recharge, +Def, or +Res bonuses.

I disagree. We already have two sets with such procs. This set serves a different need and requires a lot of investment.

I considered both kb protection and smashing damage but changed them because those already exist on non purple kb sets, but it makes total sense for them to be there, I agree.

Well I disagree with most of your other points (though as I said the exact slotting could change), but this one I REALLY disagree with and here’s why: Creating more kb2kd options is easy and doable. Completely rewriting the game (which is essentially what you’re asking for here) is not.

Actually, I might redesign it as a Universal Damage set, so it's not locked to 50.

It doesn't help for people levelling up...but I guess that's what OF and SA are for. Or if it was a Universal Damage set instead then it wouldn't be locked to 50. Hmmm.

I made a thread.

Focused Force (Purple Knockback Set) Acc/Dmg Acc/Dmg/Knock Dmg/Knock Dmg/End/Knock End/Rcg/Knock Chance for Energy Damage 2) 10% Movement Speed 3) 15% Range 4) 15% Accuracy 5) 6% Damage 6) Universal KB>KD Admittedly, I don't really know how to design a purple set, but it's the concept that counts here. The details could be altered, as far as the exact pieces in the set and the first four bonuses. The real keys are that the set has enough dmg, acc, rcg, and end to be used in a typical attack, and that the 6 slot bonus is Knockback reduced to Knockdown in ALL the players abilities (and preferably their pets abilities as well). Heck, the name could change as well, but this seemed reasonably applicable.

Maybe something like this? Focused Force (Purple Knockback Set) Acc/Dmg Acc/Dmg/Knock Dmg/Knock Dmg/End/Knock End/Rcg/Knock Chance for Energy Damage 2) 10% Movement Speed 3) 15% Range 4) 15% Accuracy 5) 6% Damage 6) Universal KB>KD

Now the question is, what kind of set is this? Universal Damage? Knockback? Is there another alternative?

Or what about a set where the 6 slot bonus IS universal kb2kd?

Maybe there could just be one more set added with a kb2kd special but that has different slotting and bonus options than SA or OF, just for variety.

Facts.

Of course. That’s why people complain about kb, it slows down killing by spreading mobs out.

It has to have a penalty (such as sacrificing an enhancement slot) because kb2kd is a dps increase as stated.