Solarverse

or clockwork.

This is a Superhero MMO, not a horror movie!

Not really, the problem is, we know how it used to perform and we know how it performs today. I never built it up so crazy like people are saying. I didn't six slot Integration and Instant Healing the way some folks on these boards are talking about. It still performed well. I was not unkillable, but I could sure as hell handle my own. So when I compare the set to what it was as somebody who did not min/max the set and then see how it performs today, it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. So having said that, I disagree with the statement you have quoted and your support of it, I don't think reasonable changes could make the set very unlikeable for at least myself. The set has under-performed next to all other sets ever since it got nerfed. Here we are, 18 years later and it has never moved from the bottom tier. Some of us would just like to see that changed. It's long overdue and it has been the bottom tier for long enough. The set wasn't balanced, it was punished. It received a life sentence when the crime only required a year or less jail time. It's Time to Set Regen Free!

For the record, I never built my Regen to those extremes back in those days. I built mine like a newb, not like somebody who was min/maxing. Just for the record, even though that's extremely irrelevant.

I'm still waiting for Brick in Glove Melee.

I can respect that.

Key word right there. Nominal: very small; far below the real value or cost. So running missions at +0 or +1? What is Nominal to you?

Wrong. I challenge you to ask random people in game, not your buddies if they think Regen sucks or not. I think you will find it is quite the opposite.

Asheron's Call says hello. 😉

Okay, I can die happy now. I just read the most insane metaphor I have ever heard, lol.

It is difficult and it will be difficult, however, having said that, your search for the right location will not be because they will all be in the same folder. The directory will be Piggs/Sound/Ogg/Feet Even the Bots are there and those will be easy to find since they are all called something similar. File name for one of them is MM_Bot_Loco_Stop_05.ogg They will all be similar to that one. So if Bots are the only ones you are looking for, that will be super easy.

Don't hold your breath. Regen is under-performing as well and that has not been changed in over 18 years.

I think that is probably the largest issue right there. Having said that, I think these Devs are doing a pretty decent job at trying to fill that gap in.

Ahhhh, okay okay, I gotcha now. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.

It's the opposite. I can't attest for AEON, but I can assure you ITF +4 x8 with players debuffed and mobs buffed, plus no Inspirations and no Temp Pwoers...has been done, multiple times...solo.

It's been done. @Bill Z Bubba can attest to this.

Fair enough.

It's not that it is really unobtainable, it's simply the fact that players in general will always gravitate toward the path of least resistance. Door sitters for example, the most common setting on TF's being +0's, the constant "Speedy" runs you see advertised where they run the mobs at the lowest possible setting, the blasters who are fully IOed out running off and wiping out half the map, things like this. By having such options in game, people tend to gravitate toward things that make the game easier. I'm not even sure anything can be done about it and to be honest, I am just too damn old to put up that fight. All I wanted to accomplish here is that I have seen time and again how players like-minded to myself take a ton of heat for having our mindsets. I simply wanted people to understand where our mindsets come from and to cut people some slack who miss the ways of the old. If I can convince even one person on these forums to understand, then my job is done.

Wasn't me! lol, if I play the set at all, it will be a remake of my original back on live, a Dark/Regen Scrapper. I wonder how that build will go for him though. I'm sure it will be survivable, Ice Patch is an awesome mitigation tool.

Okay dude...

Fire Tanks had to build a certain way to do that. Only certain mob types would work. I could say the same about Fire Farmers today. I could also say the same thing about Tanks and Brutes who can solo the ITF on +4 x8 with all debuffs on that Debuff the Tank and all Buffs on for the mobs, plus no inspirations and no Temp powers. I mean, there is no way in hell a Tank back in the old days could pull that off...no way in hell. We ahve Tanks and Brutes that can do it today though. Overall, I think we can both agree that the game has been made a lot easier today than it was back then. We can both sight examples to the contrary, but I think we can both agree that overall, the game is much easier today. Yes, they used to be squishy, and that is why squishies needed Tanks and characters who could heal. This is why I used the term "Holy Trinity" because players needed each other back then, much more than they need each other now. Now, you ahve Blasters running around with Cap Defense who are actually taking the Alpha of +4 mobs...to me that is just insane. All I am saying is that I miss the times when players actually needed each other, it promoted a much less chaotic play style in my opinion...since it would seem not all agree. Tanks were a silly thing back then. However, players still needed them and the game was not played in chaos style like it is today. Blaster did not run off on their own and clear half the map in those days just for example. We have differing perspectives on what things used to be like, that's for sure. I'm not saying that you aren't bringing up valid points though.

I could ask. Why don't people who wanted the game to be easy go play Hello Kitty? Nope, they instead flooded the forums with their whiney posts and got this one changed instead. See the flip side to that?

I have personally seen, most particularly on the suggestion forums, somebody make a suggestion that leans toward making the game more difficult, be met with responses similar to, "No, we like the game as is, we don't like the holy trinity game style this game once was and that idea would only bring that back." So it has been used in this way, most likely primarily on the Suggestion forums. In hind sight, had I known my use of the term was going to create such a focus on the term rather than the meaning of my post as a whole, I would not have used the term.

We can sit and cherry pick all day long, but we both know, regardless of your cherry picking examples, that this game is 10 times easier to play today than it was pre-IO's.

I can completely agree to this.