Snarky

Here is my Ice Ice, it is not perma hasten but it has great ranged defense, on a pure ranged toon... This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Blaster Primary Power Set: Ice Blast Secondary Power Set: Ice Manipulation Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Ice Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Chilblain (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 2: Ice Blast (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 4: Frost Breath (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (17) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (19) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (19) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (21) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 6: Aim (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 8: Freeze Ray (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (27) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (29) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (31) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Frigid Protection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod (33) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self (33) Power Transfer - EndMod (33) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance Level 12: Ice Storm (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (36) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (36) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 14: Fly (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Build Up (A) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge Level 20: Ice Patch (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 22: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (39) Recharge Reduction IO Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 26: Bitter Freeze Ray (A) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Defiant Barrage - Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (40) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Superior Defiant Barrage - RechargeTime/+Status Level 28: Shiver (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow (42) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow (43) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (43) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow (43) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (45) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 30: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 32: Blizzard (A) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage (45) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (48) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Recharge/Chance for Fire Damage Level 35: Snow Storm (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow (48) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow (48) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (50) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow (50) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (50) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 38: Flash Freeze (A) Bombardment - Damage/Recharge (45) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 41: Frozen Armor (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 44: Hoarfrost (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 47: Tactics (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception Level 49: Hibernate (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 1: Defiance Level 1: Brawl | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1618;674;1348;HEX;| |78DA7594DB6E12511486D7C00C500E45C05A4AA1056A2B5A0BC52730564DAA60D12| |6DE361398C0180213A089BE8189870B6F4C545A351E5AB59EE2F11DF40DBCF005D4| |5E7967C6C5AC59754F88930CFB9B596BFDFB5F7B33BB7CF964F0EB97D27190424B4| |DB5DB5D3B81BF3DADA394D5BA5E85C1E5C53B6EBF5EBBA0B6EA5A2DBF5CD52833CD| |81D575C368777A56A4ACB67463BDA9F6F4760B029576BB993FDDD4EB8D9EDFE2554| |3D36A610B4B9A5AD33ADD866E84286D90A5B7EA9153865ECD2FB59B35141BE85F89| |A38B34DECBE0B84C05A08F635106176C306C12C8709FE10181071E125CFDAF8C876| |57C2CE363193FCBF859E60C0E922823B14C9065822C33CA32A32CB38F65CEE2E016| |65DCE056EC1499200A0A8387603F78197C0425AC554419051EB9ACC80178CCF0842| |00E4F19B60812B04D50B6377D4FC6CB4D25B8A9243795E4A6A6B8A9296EEA1A0E23| |FF16C79447E0B6CB4EB9459086DFB20DBB0C515C88940CE7B02420542B017847291| |978CFF081E123C10C7C62F84C10C04642422FF8F08DE6BE8E8F61212285611EEC62| |1B567088881E22B045B207619BE119C373823978C1B04370036B63A287184F90457| |763C204D21847E6182298322EA4C038FC016B852A384C88EE260068C2432031B818| |DC0487416650086E62EDA42833093B929DF292E008BC6278CDF086E028BC2588A2C| |F94D8640AB7C58A9CC7615A9C601AEEB8EDE2BB040B708FA1CFB04150804D823A0E| |595126CB3E0BECB3C03E8BECB3C83E8BECB38132B3E2B6CFE23FD37603F419E9989| |213973C07C7C8C3F72058FBB21799B7F606372386EDE7C59A3CF4F17F1693E11296| |2E8A9145B8485632B2E3F430CDA4EC3C94F04ED01A9686230B14A9C8CE13081F4CB| |CE0871FDF4B8EF73354F1733892A3C8AFE148861ADF1D8ED8DF329E288E0FCCFC0B| |56C0BF4B| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Dark Invul is a very Synergistic pairing on Brutes Scrappers, and as Invul Dark on a Tank. Lean into recharge to bring up Soul Drain and Dull pain. Dark Dark is hella fun but harder to build. And run. Forget defense, build for Accuracy recharge and end management. To hit debuff, stealth, fear and stun are your defense. Great resists and best heal in the game

Just another benefit to Tanks and by extension a detriment to Brute play. Par for the course. Another couple months there will be another modification that benefits Tanks. The current Devs are building for Blasters. Blasters want one Tank, preferably not a Brute. They want to clean mobs without help. Putting out sugar cubes for Tankers is just polite

I must have been fantastically unclear in my post on this. Or people speed read. I was not comparing WoW to CoH. I was comparing CoH 2 months ago to CoH in the last week Ukase says my perception could be the issue. But it is my perception. on CoH, nothing to do with WoW except that is where I was. This has nothing to do with WoW. Wow, stop it already.

Without mentioning your build goals and intended use of the character ot would be hard to offer a critique I will say the few times I tried I found rad/rad completely unsatisfying to build or run. On a Brute, the only melee AT I regularly run. I found the Rad powerset slack and sloppy in combat, without that crisp feeling of powerful moves and obvious combinations. But I run a lot of SS and Dark so in that regard I am spoiled. I seem to remember the armors being toigh to get where I wanted them in MiDs planner. That is a vague memory But definitely include what you want out of this thing. Unless you just wanted me to start telling you, in general, where you went wrong? Wait, you did say with the build, danged I was hoping to share life wisdom.

You could read it that way. Or you could read my OP and realize I thought Brutes rarely topped Scrapper damage. (I never played Scrappers, still don't, and honestly I still wonder if Brutes all did this, or just a few powersets in specific situations with hyper one sided builds....)

And this is exactly the type of stuff (hard to define stuff) that is at the heart of one of my gripes. The game has evolved past Brutes. It just has. To add insult to the injury every once in a while they (you know,…them) will nerf another bit of Brute power or buff another melee class. Or give most ATs great ATOs and Brutes….garbage

Damn you. I was so close on this one too.

Okay, okay. I can read the room. But, how much does it pay?

Great posts aethereal and Erratic1. Spot on to my madness in both I do believe. I truly have no answers. Yes, I did believe Brutes generally did less damage than Scrappers. If not by much, pre nerf. I am sure (and this will never happen....and, erm, I have zero data) that if the Nerf was somehow undone Scrappers would now out damage Brutes. Because ATOs. But I saw someone post that Brutes are CURRENTLY outdamaging Scrappers without Scrap ATOs (They had a formula and everything!!!) Someone else (I vaguely recall I think I respect them....) Said Brutes damage is way closer to Tanks than Scrappers right now. Sigh. I got no F-ing clue. I just know in the modern game Brutes seem screwed. This has as much (and prob more) to do with Melee being in a shit game position due to high end mechanics like damage patches etc. Which, due to Brutes time on target style is worse on them by far. In my (prob not so humble) opinion

They're the ones that killed the OG?

I'm jealous, there is an "On Hold" thread, a "Hold on" thread, and I cannot think of something that fits the pattern to start a topic on...Hold on Hold....On Hold On.... Holdon....Onholdon....hmmmm

I’m on Excelsior. It looks to me way deader

You REALLY missed my point. It is night and day from when I left to when I got back a few fortnights later. It is different here NOW from here two months ago. Something changed HERE

I do not know about what is going on I do know this. I started playing WoW in approx early August. I “soloed” all Horde side on one Paladin. I started hanging out in CoH again the last few days. It is NIGHT and DAY different. It is dead. D E A D. Deadsville man, and that is sad. So, unless I was the glue holding everything together…. Someone changed something under the hood and people left. A LOT of people left. Keep in mind I am dead. And Nuetral. I am writing a book and developing an art practice. Carry on anyway you want to. I have no ownership But you may want to look around the empty theatre and ask who you are staging the performance for…

This is why I am so wary of results and statistics. I have done a bit of mathematics in my time. Statistics is the art of lying and making it look like science, in my opinion. I prefer to have discussions, listen to wildly varying opinions, disagree vehemently with people. Look at the conversation over time. With the benefit of the long view form an opinion of what all the “results” mean. To me, it is obvious things are worse for Brutes than they ever have been. And getting worse In the future

I clarified a couple things as I posted. 1) There are so many better choices when I build. 2) I did not originally respond because I a m interested in feedback. Your opinion is valued. But, to me, it is an "if" statement. "If" everything else on my build is going well, really well, then I just add more damage. I tend to run a lot of Brutes and Cardiac makes a lot of sense. Sometimes I choose Spiritual. High Recharge = more damage on many builds. And many powers recharging that help you do more damage by making you more effective. Musculature is a solid choice. I find myself not taking it much. Because I think, well, this Alpha offers that bonus, so if....

They could F-ing change Dark Dark Blaster. Pick a focus. ANY focus, cones, circle, melee, F-ing pick something. The powers are all "sort" of cool individually and add up to a mess that is as un-synergistic as A sumo wrestler and gymnast partnered for a three legged race. Also, worst build up of any Blaster. You want to start changing things? Do ANYTHING there. You cannot make it worse.

Street Justice. Thug life.

Brand was saying brutes out damage Scrappers. Erratic has shown a thread that proves Tanks out damage Brutes (at times). So, given forum logic Tanks out damage Scrappers! Now we are moving the conversation forward.

Always been a 'bit' random. It is not completely random. But it is not tied to the stuff one would line it up to. There are certain "classes" of doors based on mission giver. Radio, newspaper, are usually the most random. A lot of story arcs are tighter, but some of those have very predictable odd results as well.

Brute ATOs are not great. Garbage compared to tank, scrapper and blaster ATOs A resist set will not help you do damage. Not sure why you threw that in. You went from stating Brutes surpass Scrapper to saying one Brute came near a Scrapper in a single posted entry The truth is Brutes are way out damaged by Scrappers

no

While I agree with your reasoning as a whole I think I actually winced when you wrote buff Scrappers health. You're killing me smalls. The point of this thread....the point....well....uh. O F it. nvm

Yes, but then my old undead brain thinks I have a Elec/Dark whatever and I look for it for three hours then remember it was only on test. All the work I have done on ATs is saved on live, many still fully built out.