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Does anyone have data on the various snipes?

 

In particular, I am looking for:

 

~ Animation times (regular or Arcanatime) of shortened snipes.

~ Damage at level 50 of combat snipes.

~ How much ToHit adds. Is the damage increase directly translated? ie. does 20% ToHit now add 20% damage, or is there a conversion ratio?

 

I have searched the forums but can't find actual numbers, and the regular long snipe times obscure the numbers.

 

 

 

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My understanding is that if the normal cast time is 4.33 seconds and the interrupt time is 3.0 seconds, the fast snipe time would be 1.33 seconds. Don't know if this is consistent across all sets, but looking at Moonbeam, the fast snipe damage is 172.7 vs. 281.5 for regular snipe. You need +22% tohit for fast snipe. I don't believe tohit adds any damage.

 

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2 hours ago, Uun said:

My understanding is that if the normal cast time is 4.33 seconds and the interrupt time is 3.0 seconds, the fast snipe time would be 1.33 seconds. Don't know if this is consistent across all sets, but looking at Moonbeam, the fast snipe damage is 172.7 vs. 281.5 for regular snipe. You need +22% tohit for fast snipe. I don't believe tohit adds any damage.

 

Numbers should be in Mids

Your information on the tohit is out of date.  

 

Powers: Snipes

  • General Changes
    • ToHit is no longer required to achieve fast-snipe. Now, combat status determines if snipes are fast or slow, and ToHit buffs increase how much damage fast-snipe inflicts.
    • The snipe will be fast if you have attacked or been attacked in the last 8 seconds; this is the same time as Stalker's Hide.
    • Note that PvP scale is based only around the PvP damage formula. ToHit buffs and debuffs do not change quick snipe damage in PvP.
    • The following fast snipe animations have been synced with their FX, no cast time changes: Moonbeam, Zapp, Sniper Blast, Proton Volley (they all remain at their original 1.33 second duration.)
    • Added a new PVP IO Snipe set "Experienced Marksman"; includes proc that will always turn your Snipes into the fast version.
  • Blaster/Defender/Corruptor Snipes
    • 12 second recharge and 14.352 end cost.
    • Base 2.28 scale damage in their "quick" form, down from 2.76 scale.
    • Every point of ToHit buffing the player has will increase or decrease this damage, up to a cap of 2.76 scale damage with +22% ToHit buff.
    • Slow form will do 4.5 scale damage.
  • Dominator Snipes
    • 20 second recharge and 18.512 end cost.
    • Base 2.67 scale damage in their "quick" form, down from 3.56 scale.
    • Every point of ToHit buffing the player has will increase or decrease this damage, up to a cap of 3.56 scale damage with +22% ToHit buff.
    • Slow form will do 4.5 scale damage.
  • Epic Snipes
    • Will now have a base 1.75 scale damage in their quick form.
    • Every point of ToHit buffing the player has will increase or decrease this damage, up to a cap of 2.3 scale damage with +22% ToHit buff.
    • Slow form will do 3.56 scale damage
    • Slow form crits will do 3.56 + 1.78 scale damage.
    • Scrappers should now properly crit 10% of the time, instead of using Stalker requirements.

 

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Thanks. I searched the HC wiki, but for some reason it didn't pick up the August 2019 patch notes, just the I24 patch notes.

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On 10/4/2020 at 8:25 AM, Moonlighter said:

Does anyone have data on the various snipes?

 

This is what I came up with. I did not include interrupt time, but that usually can be inferred by looking at the difference between the Fast Snipe cast time and the Slow Snipe cast time (it's not always correct doing it this way, but it's good enough). For quick snipes I show their base damage as well as their maximum damage. *Edit: Trimmed some fat off the table and cleaned up formatting*

 

Blaster Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Blaster AR Snipe Sniper Rifle 1 1.25 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 96.944 - 2.67 2.904 12 14.35 150
Blaster AR Snipe Sniper Rifle 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 83.124 100.623 1.5 1.716 12 14.35 150
Blaster Archery Snipe Ranged Shot 1 1.39 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 73.544 - 3.67 3.828 12 14.35 150
Blaster Archery Snipe Ranged Shot 1 1.16 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 77.186 93.436 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Blaster BR Snipe Penetrating Ray 1 1.25 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 78.992 - 3.4 3.564 12 14.35 150
Blaster BR Snipe Penetrating Ray 1 1.05 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 77.186 93.436 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Blaster Dark Snipe Moonbeam 1 1.2 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 78.992 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Blaster Dark Snipe Moonbeam 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 90.051 109.009 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Blaster Electric Snipe Zapp 1 1.2 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 78.992 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Blaster Electric Snipe Zapp 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 90.051 109.009 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Blaster Energy Snipe Sniper Blast 1 1.2 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 78.992 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Blaster Energy Snipe Sniper Blast 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 90.051 109.009 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Blaster Fire Snipe Blazing Bolt 1 1.2 62.5615 5.0314 - 314.769 - 82.228 - 3.67 3.828 12 14.35 150
Blaster Fire Snipe Blazing Bolt 1 1 62.5615 2.8114 3.2914 175.883 205.912 95.175 111.424 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Blaster Psychic Snipe Psionic Lance 1 1.2 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 88.866 - 3 3.168 12 14.35 175
Blaster Psychic Snipe Psionic Lance 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 90.051 109.009 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 175
Blaster Radiation Snipe Proton Volley 1 1.2 62.5615 4.5000 - 281.527 - 78.992 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Blaster Radiation Snipe Proton Volley 1 1 62.5615 2.2800 2.7600 142.640 172.670 90.051 109.009 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Corruptor Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Corruptor Archery Snipe Ranged Shot 18 1.16 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 51.458 62.291 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Corruptor Archery Snipe Ranged Shot 18 1.39 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 49.029 - 3.67 3.828 12 14.35 150
Corruptor AssaultRifle Snipe Sniper Rifle 12 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 55.416 67.082 1.5 1.716 12 14.35 150
Corruptor AssaultRifle Snipe Sniper Rifle 12 1.25 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 64.630 - 2.67 2.904 12 14.35 150
Corruptor BeamRifle Snipe Penetrating Ray 18 1.05 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 51.458 62.291 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Corruptor BeamRifle Snipe Penetrating Ray 18 1.25 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 52.661 - 3.4 3.564 12 14.35 150
Corruptor DarkBlast Snipe Moonbeam 2 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 60.034 72.673 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Corruptor DarkBlast Snipe Moonbeam 2 1.2 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 52.661 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Corruptor ElectricalBlast Snipe Zapp 12 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 60.034 72.673 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Corruptor ElectricalBlast Snipe Zapp 12 1.2 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 52.661 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Corruptor EnergyBlast Snipe Sniper Blast 8 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 60.034 72.673 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Corruptor EnergyBlast Snipe Sniper Blast 8 1.2 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 52.661 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Corruptor FireBlast Snipe Blazing Bolt 26 1 41.7077 2.8114 3.2914 117.255 137.275 63.450 74.283 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Corruptor FireBlast Snipe Blazing Bolt 26 1.2 41.7077 5.0314 - 209.846 - 54.819 - 3.67 3.828 12 14.35 150
Corruptor PsychicBlast Snipe Psionic Lance 2 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 60.034 72.673 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 175
Corruptor PsychicBlast Snipe Psionic Lance 2 1.2 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 59.244 - 3 3.168 12 14.35 175
Corruptor RadiationBlast Snipe Proton Volley 8 1 41.7077 2.2800 2.7600 95.094 115.113 60.034 72.673 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Corruptor RadiationBlast Snipe Proton Volley 8 1.2 41.7077 4.5000 - 187.685 - 52.661 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Defender BR Snipe Penetrating Ray 1 1.25 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 45.640 - 3.4 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender BR Snipe Penetrating Ray 1 1.05 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 44.596 53.985 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Defender Dark Snipe Moonbeam 1 1.2 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 45.640 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender Dark Snipe Moonbeam 1 1 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 52.029 62.983 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Defender Electric Snipe Zapp 1 1.2 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 45.640 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender Electric Snipe Zapp 1 1 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 52.029 62.983 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Defender Energy Snipe Sniper Blast 1 1.2 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 45.640 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender Energy Snipe Sniper Blast 1 1 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 52.029 62.983 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Defender Fire Snipe Blazing Bolt 1 1.2 36.1466 5.0314 - 181.867 - 47.510 - 3.67 3.828 12 14.35 150
Defender Fire Snipe Blazing Bolt 1 1 36.1466 2.8114 3.2914 101.621 118.971 54.990 64.379 1.67 1.848 12 14.35 150
Defender Psychic Snipe Psionic Lance 1 1.2 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 51.345 - 3 3.168 12 14.35 175
Defender Psychic Snipe Psionic Lance 1 1 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 52.029 62.983 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 175
Defender Radiation Snipe Proton Volley 1 1.2 36.1466 4.5000 - 162.660 - 45.640 - 3.33 3.564 12 14.35 150
Defender Radiation Snipe Proton Volley 1 1 36.1466 2.2800 2.7600 82.414 99.765 52.029 62.983 1.33 1.584 12 14.35 150
Dominator Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Dominator DarkAssault Snipe Moon Beam 35 1.2 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 175
Dominator DarkAssault Snipe Moon Beam 35 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 52.971 - 4.33 4.488 20 18.51 175
Dominator ElectricityAssault Snipe Zapp 20 1.2 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 150
Dominator ElectricityAssault Snipe Zapp 20 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 66.704 - 3.33 3.564 20 18.51 150
Dominator EnergyAssault Snipe Sniper Blast 35 1 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 150
Dominator EnergyAssault Snipe Sniper Blast 35 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 66.704 - 3.33 3.564 20 18.51 150
Dominator FieryAssault Snipe Blazing Bolt 35 1 52.8297 3.2014 4.0914 169.127 216.145 91.519 116.962 1.67 1.848 20 18.51 150
Dominator FieryAssault Snipe Blazing Bolt 35 1.2 52.8297 5.0314 - 265.805 - 69.437 - 3.67 3.828 20 18.51 150
Dominator MartialAssault Snipe Masterful Throw 35 1 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 150
Dominator MartialAssault Snipe Masterful Throw 35 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 69.270 - 3.17 3.432 20 18.51 150
Dominator PsionicAssault Snipe Psionic Lance 35 1 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 175
Dominator PsionicAssault Snipe Psionic Lance 35 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 75.042 - 3 3.168 20 18.51 175
Dominator RadioactiveAssault Snipe Proton Volley 35 1 52.8297 2.6700 3.5600 141.055 188.074 89.050 118.733 1.33 1.584 20 18.51 150
Dominator RadioactiveAssault Snipe Proton Volley 35 1.2 52.8297 4.5000 - 237.734 - 66.704 - 3.33 3.564 20 18.51 150
Stalker Epic Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Stalker EpicMaceMastery Snipe Mace Beam 35 1.05 55.6102 1.7500 2.3000 97.318 127.903 43.368 56.998 2 2.244 24 17.94 150
Stalker EpicMaceMastery Snipe Mace Beam 35 1.25 55.6102 3.5600 - 197.972 - 38.456 - 5 5.148 24 17.94 150
Stalker EpicMuMastery Snipe Zapp 35 1 55.6102 1.7500 2.3000 97.318 127.903 61.438 80.747 1.33 1.584 24 17.94 150
Stalker EpicMuMastery Snipe Zapp 35 1.2 55.6102 3.5600 - 197.972 - 44.111 - 4.33 4.488 24 17.94 150
Stalker EpicSoulMastery Snipe Moonbeam 35 1 55.6102 1.7500 2.3000 97.318 127.903 61.438 80.747 1.33 1.584 24 17.94 150
Stalker EpicSoulMastery Snipe Moonbeam 35 1.2 55.6102 3.5600 - 197.972 - 44.111 - 4.33 4.488 24 17.94 150
Scrapper Epic Name Lvl Acc Base Dmg Scale Max Scale Dmg Max Dmg DPA Max DPA Cast Arcana Rch End Rng
Scrapper EpicMaceMastery Snipe Mace Beam 35 1.05 62.5615 1.7500 2.3000 109.483 143.891 48.789 64.123 2 2.244 24 17.94 150
Scrapper EpicMaceMastery Snipe Mace Beam 35 1.25 62.5615 3.5600 - 222.719 - 43.263 - 5 5.148 24 17.94 150
Scrapper EpicMuMastery Snipe Zapp 35 1 62.5615 1.7500 2.3000 109.483 143.891 69.118 90.841 1.33 1.584 24 17.94 150
Scrapper EpicMuMastery Snipe Zapp 35 1.2 62.5615 3.5600 - 222.719 - 49.625 - 4.33 4.488 24 17.94 150
Scrapper EpicSoulMastery Snipe Moonbeam 35 1 62.5615 1.7500 2.3000 109.483 143.891 69.118 90.841 1.33 1.584 24 17.94 150
Scrapper EpicSoulMastery Snipe Moonbeam 35 1.2 62.5615 3.5600 - 222.719 - 49.625 - 4.33 4.488 24 17.94 150
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1 hour ago, Moonlighter said:

You are so awesome Bopper, this is fantastic. Thank you so much!

 

 

 

 

We need to run Bopper through some of those cloning operations in the Rogue Isles. I'm sure out of 20+ versions, some have to be working fine. Granted, some may come out looking like zombies or Lost Anchorites, but that's a price that we're willing to have them pay.

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3 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

He really is. Now if there was only some way to automatically update my download of his spreadsheet any time he updates it....

It'll be awhile before I can do another update, so you're safe for now. What I produced today was all manual. I happened to be working on updating the Mids database with corrected sniper info so I knew the numbers off hand, so I quickly copy and pasted from my spreadsheet and manually added the extra damage info. 


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Sorry to necro this, but it seems to have all the info I’m looking for, rather than starting a brand new thread. Good stuff in here! @Bopper 😍

 

Insta-snipes were not a thing when I played on live. At the time, snipes were pretty polarizing—you either loved them or hated them. The analyses on them were a bit more subjective and highly contingent on play style, solo v teaming, etc. I personally didn’t care for them at the time.

 

But based on those DPA’s, they seem like an incredible addition to normal combat attack chains now as well as retaining their snipe utility. Unless I’m missing something, it almost seems insane to skip these for most classes with access. Is that fair to say?

 

If so, I may have some Mids Tetris to play and a respec to do 😅

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On 11/30/2020 at 2:12 AM, Kaipto said:

But based on those DPA’s, they seem like an incredible addition to normal combat attack chains now as well as retaining their snipe utility. Unless I’m missing something, it almost seems insane to skip these for most classes with access. Is that fair to say?

Absolutely fair to say. I'd also suggest that you NEVER slot the PVP "Fast Snipe ALWAYS" piece, as you will be sacrificing damage. Since you can get the fast snipe any time (with its fast damage) it will be very rare that you would be 'wasting' either damage or time in any meaningful way for most content.

 

As you revisit rebuilds, keep in mind the bonus damage Snipes get from ToHit buffs (up to a maximum from +22% ToHit). If you can have the Kismet: Accuracy (really +ToHit) in an active (or auto) power, you will be getting that bonus on your Snipe damage.

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On 10/5/2020 at 12:09 PM, Moonlighter said:

You are so awesome Bopper, this is fantastic. Thank you so much!

 

 

 

Yeah.. but... I know beggars can't be choosers... but..  Ice Blast, please?

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