Can you explain the effects of multiple Achilles' Heel debuff procs?

[DoctorDitko]

To a slow, old, ex-sorcerer?

 

Playing a Rad/Rad Sentinel, and enjoying it more than I expected, but it seems as though I can slot just about every power with one of these suckers. Is that at all wise? The description says it will trigger roughly 3.5 times per minute. Is that per power, per proc, or something else?

 

Apologies if this is a dumb question, but I've been searching this forum, the wiki, and the Internet at large and coming up empty.

[Mjolnerd]

There's a guide on procs per minute (PPM) here: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/5290-procs-per-minute-ppm-information-guide/#comment-45849

[Yomo Kimyata]

It does not stack, not even from multiple casters, but it resets the duration.

[twozerofoxtrot]

1 hour ago, DoctorDitko said:

Is that at all wise?

 

Not really.

 

You've got the good answers above. I'll add that putting this in one frequently used ST power is usually gravy, and in your specific case maybe putting another one in Neutron Bomb, and that'll do ya. 

[Crysis]

AFAIK, you can’t stack it, but the -RES debuff from Achilles does stack with Annihilation -RES debuff, and you’ll find many builds posted that slots both procs, although typically in different powers.  

 

And once upon a time, Achilles used this strange mechanic that sort of granted the target a temporary power that gave it the resistance debuff, meaning the -RES value wasn’t diminished via scaling thru the Purple Patch.  But now it scales based on the targets level relative to the caster.  Little bit of game change lore there, but just realize that the -RES impact from both DO stack.

[tidge]

Fast cycling ST attacks (e.g. the T1, T2) are usually not a a good place to invest a slot in any (from outside a set that was going to be slotted anyway) %proc; the rates are generally poor enough that it won't speed up defeats (of those single targets). There are a few different corners to explore however:

• Sometimes the ST 'attack' is something like a control or debuff that by itself does no/little damage, adding %damage can help non-DPS characters. Slows. Holds and raw Defense Debuffs are the ones I usually consider for %damage. Less so for immobilizes, fears.
• %-Resistance isn't as good as a reliable Resistance debuff, but in the case of an actual damaging attack for a low-damage scale AT: It is possible that the debuff will help reduce the defeat times against some bosses. (Resistance resists resistible resistance debuffs)
• The duration of %effects is rather short. Resistance debuffs generally help teammates more than the caster. %status effects are in my experience  only shine in cases like the +2 mag Hold sometimes catching a boss on the first application, or %contagious confusion trigger a spawn to alpha strike itself.

As others have written: The length of an application of the %effect will extend from multiple applications, but the effect will not stack with itself.

[UltraAlt]

11 hours ago, DoctorDitko said:

Playing a Rad/Rad Sentinel, and enjoying it more than I expected, but it seems as though I can slot just about every power with one of these suckers. Is that at all wise? The description says it will trigger roughly 3.5 times per minute. Is that per power, per proc, or something else?

 

/e sigh

 

Use it, but don't over use it. I wouldn't slot it in any more than 3 powers

A fast recharge low damage power, an AoE, and maybe a PBAoE (ground zero) ... but never in a high damage power.

You can slot debuff enhancements and they go a long way as well. 

 

 

 

[Uun]

On my Rad/Rad sentinel I have it slotted in Irradiate. It has a 20 second recharge and I have no recharge reduction slotted, maximizing the chance to proc (I also have 3 dmg procs slotted in that power). 

[Yomo Kimyata]

The only problem with "overusing" AH proc is that you are wasting slots that you could potentially use for something else.  I mean a constant -20% resistance on all enemies is a pretty great debuff, but why use more than you need?

 

That said, I generally like using it (and most -res procs) in something that has a pretty significant chance of activating.  For a rad/rad sentinel, I'd certainly put it in Ground Zero, and probably one in Irradiate or Neutron Bomb or Atomic Blast (more if you really want).  

[DoctorDitko]

Thanks, all!

I was mainly concerned that power #1 proccing would prevent power #2 from going off.

It look like it won't, but also won't stack, which works for me.

Again, many thanks for the edumication. Some day, I'll figure out this ~18-year-old game.

(That I've been playing for ~10 of those years!)

 

[Scientist]

For Radiation attacks, my suggestion is to put one in the Rad snipe.  The recharge is about right to max the chance of it going off, and it still allows for 5-slotting the Manticore Snipe set, which is one of the few sets with a good recharge bonus AND ranged defense.  Put the Manticore proc in and it hits pretty hard, and it cycles within the 10 second Achilles proc duration with some decent global recharge.  Hopefully a Sentinal gets the snipe?  

[aethereal]

Nope, sentinels do not get snipes.