Politics in General Chat

[lemming]

57 minutes ago, JasperStone said:

Can we save our chat/tab setup?

 

It is part of my new character setup to separate out all the chats into specific tabs

Options->Windows->Chat Settings File

 

There's a save and load.

[lemming]

On the question:

I tend to point people at the terms we signed up for and leave it at that.

If they're posting some views that are garbage IMO, I put a note on them.

If it continues, then there's a report function.

[ZemX]

6 minutes ago, lemming said:

Options->Windows->Chat Settings File

 

There's a save and load.

 

Also, /chatsave and /chatload commands if you're a command-line warrior. 

 

/wdwload to load the window/tray positions and settings (previously saved with /wdwsave) is another thing I do on new characters.

[Brutal Justice]

Hot take!  
 

There are a lot of comments spouting political views in this thread complaining about people talking about political views.

[Neiska]

44 minutes ago, honoroit said:

i just dont want to encounter the worst of right wing America, masquerading as thought police, of spewing diatribe, anywhere.

 

talk about whatever, just don't try to rez a lost war.

 

such presence demeans our community.

 

Yes, that should stir the pot nicely.

 

Inb4threadlocked.

[Snarky]

1 minute ago, Brutal Justice said:

Hot take!  
 

There are a lot of comments spouting political views in this thread complaining about people talking about political views.

Well said.  I tried to leave my personal politics out of my posts.  Yet if you look with a discerning eye it would not be difficult to ascertain.  Others....

 

[cranebump]

1 hour ago, honoroit said:

i just dont want to encounter the worst of right wing America, masquerading as thought police, of spewing diatribe, anywhere.

While I would agree that the extreme right wing seems to present themselves this way a great deal, there's plenty of "thought policing" to go around on the other side, too. Orthodoxy is a few people believing their way is the way, for everybody. It's not relegated to the side that has the highest TV ratings. I just wish they'd stop trying to get me to despise pretty much everybody by playing into fear.* 

 

That said, I'm in full agreement that our entertainment shouldn't be polluted by the sound of grinding axes. As already mentioned, however, we can turn channels off, and use the local control methods for incessant offenders. That would seem to be enough for this insular space.

 

*I just want to lock them all in a room until they either figure it out, or eat each other (or...they could come out of the rat drum Silva talked about in Skyfall).

Edited May 23, 2023 by cranebump

[cranebump]

27 minutes ago, Neiska said:

Yes, that should stir the pot nicely.

 

Inb4threadlocked.

No kidding. But didn't it seem inevitable?

[honoroit]

31 minutes ago, cranebump said:

That said, I'm in full agreement that our entertainment shouldn't be polluted by the sound of grinding axes.

 

there is such thing as mind poison.  some of it is views, sure, they differ. and some of it is just poison - only intended to harm and generate culture of harm.

 

to paraphrase an earlier poster; they bloody well know better.

[wjrasmussen]

9 hours ago, honoroit said:

people who dislike politics tend to have off view, and dont like that coming up in a forum where theyre exposed.

 

the bigot, the fascist, the twisted to abuse - those that foster unkindess of thought and work that to belief or self definition...

 

theres a segment of those - at least on excelsior.

Well, it was MAGA making noise.  I don't need that here.  This is a game not a rally.

[wjrasmussen]

2 hours ago, Brutal Justice said:

Hot take!  
 

There are a lot of comments spouting political views in this thread complaining about people talking about political views.

it is self defining in that any talk about it will be self referential.

[biostem]

The other issue is that there is no way to tell if someone is spouting political rhetoric simply to get a rise out of people.  It's best to block/ignore, report, or simply close general chat altogether...

[wjrasmussen]

Just now, biostem said:

The other issue is that there is no way to tell if someone is spouting political rhetoric simply to get a rise out of people.  It's best to block/ignore, report, or simply close general chat altogether...

I assume that is what they are doing.  I am no longer interested in turning off general to deal with it.  Turning up the heat for GMs to deal with the offending person.  Ideally, a permaban.

[biostem]

4 minutes ago, wjrasmussen said:

Turning up the heat for GMs to deal with the offending person

I don't think it is up to us to "turn up the heat" - report the offender and move on.

 

4 minutes ago, wjrasmussen said:

Ideally, a permaban

Moderation actions aren't disclosed, but either way, that is also up to the GMs to decide.  I don't think coming across as vindictive helps anybody...

[Brutal Justice]

10 minutes ago, wjrasmussen said:

it is self defining in that any talk about it will be self referential.

And as such a violation

[Oklahoman]

Before this thread gets locked, which I expect any time now, I just want to make 1 observation. There is, and should be, a difference between "current events" and "politics." It ought to be OK to make a comment or joke about a Chinese spy balloon floating over the US. It should not be OK to say that it's the [________}'s fault.

 

I one time got asked by a GM to please not advertise an MSR as "gathering at Four Seasons Total Landscaping" in RWZ because "some people are still sore about the election." The fact that ANYONE chose to have a press conference at a landscaping company they thought was a Four Seasons hotel is only political because politicians did it. If that's our threshold for what is "political" we're in trouble. I guess if Leonardo DiCaprio had a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping to celebrate the 25th anniversary of "Titanic" and say that now that it's so old he doesn't want to be in it, we can't joke about that?

 

Please give your thumbs down below. Bring it.

[honoroit]

thread shouldnt be locked, a community management solves issues by confronting them.

 

it's rare, but theres on occassion some just awful hatespew on excelsior, often abstracted 'just a bit' so a crew enfaging in it can skirt a line, while, intendong only to harm.

 

i dont know if this is just an excelsior problem, but it exists.

 

for any given, does this intend to harm. theres a good measure, and one not at all subjective when topics get all 5th column.

[wjrasmussen]

15 minutes ago, Brutal Justice said:

And as such a violation

^^^^^^You see this.  This is this BS trying to start some shit.

[Oklahoman]

24 minutes ago, honoroit said:

it's rare, but theres on occassion some just awful hatespew on excelsior, often abstracted 'just a bit' so a crew enfaging in it can skirt a line, while, intendong only to harm.

 

i dont know if this is just an excelsior problem, but it exists.

 

Not sure if you've seen this in GENERAL, but that's some tall grass I never wade into. Filled with chiggers and ticks.

[UltraAlt]

16 hours ago, wjrasmussen said:

Noticed a lot more political or close enough in General chat lately.  It is annoying.  What can be done about it?

report it.

Menu>Support>Harassment and Conduct

 

It's against the Rules of Conduct.

[UltraAlt]

5 hours ago, wjrasmussen said:

I am tired of doing that. Why should we be forced to deal with it that way?

 

Making the report helps everyone.

Turning a blind eye to something that is bad for the community only encourages it.

[Scarlet Shocker]

the only times there are issues around political discussions in any environment, is when people who should know much better fail to agree with my point of view by not acceding to my correctness

 

 

 

just to reiterate, this is sarcasm as I'd hoped people would already deduce but it seems not everyone did

Edited May 23, 2023 by Scarlet Shocker
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[UltraAlt]

4 hours ago, honoroit said:

i just dont want to encounter the worst of right wing America, masquerading as thought police, of spewing diatribe, anywhere.

 

Report it (Menu>Support>Harassment and Conduct) and help everyone else in the process.

[UltraAlt]

39 minutes ago, honoroit said:

i dont know if this is just an excelsior problem, but it exists.

 

With my limited gaming exposure over decades, the most populous servers have the most rule-breaking behavior in chats that can reach the entire server or even a zone.

The kind of people that do this are looking for attention and the more attention that they can get makes them feel better about themselves - even if it is negative attention. 

The biggest servers give them the biggest audience.

 

"It comes with the territory". But it breaks the code of conduct so it needs to be stopped.

[UltraAlt]

6 minutes ago, Scarlet Shocker said:

the only times there are issues around political discussions in any environment, is when people who should know much better fail to agree with my point of view by not acceding to my correctness

 

 

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