Numbers! Character Statistics

[Troo]

Would anyone else be curious to see similar for Homecoming? Maybe some 'General Information' & 'Archetype Usage'?

 

The example below is from https://vault.cityofheroes.dev/character/stats and looks quite nice.

Character Statistics

General Information

Character Statistics
Total Characters	7,770
Heroes	5,185
Vigilantes	81
Rogues	81
Villains	1,598
Resistance	374
Loyalists	213
PvP Only	23
Unknown	66
Level Statistics
Maximum Level	50
Minimum Level	1
Average Level	8.20
Hero Level Statistics
Maximum Level	50
Minimum Level	1
Average Level	8.95
Villain Level Statistics
Maximum Level	50
Minimum Level	1
Average Level	7.55
Monetary Statistics
Influence 58,032,222,112
Infamy 5,379,375,714
Information 116,284,014
Total 63,528,300,745

Archetype Usage

Archetype	Count
Blaster	1233
Mastermind	1142
Brute	964
Scrapper	792
Tanker	615
Controller	533
Sentinel	505
Dominator	398
Corruptor	397
Defender	341
Stalker	291
Peacebringer	169
Warshade	168
Arachnos Soldier	148
Arachnos Widow	74

Origin Usage

Origin	Count
Magic	2257
Mutation	1916
Natural	1382
Technology	1150
Science	1065

Primary Powerset Usage

Powerset	Count
Robotics	299
Demon Summoning	262
Fire Blast	180
Beast Mastery	175
Necromancy	174
Energy Blast	174
Luminous Blast	169
Umbral Blast	168
Dual Pistols	167
Invulnerability	152

Secondary Powerset Usage

Powerset	Count
Dark Miasma	255
Regeneration	184
Energy Manipulation	175
Luminous Aura	169
Umbral Aura	168
Invulnerability	166
Fire Manipulation	165
Devices	162
Training And Gadgets	148
Regeneration	138

Ancillary Powerset Usage

Powerset	Count
Energy Mastery	35
Body Mastery	35
Energy Mastery	22
Flame Mastery	20
Fire Mastery	17
Field Mastery	14
Force Mastery	13
Munitions Mastery	12
Electrical Mastery	12
Soul Mastery	8

Power Pool Usage

Flight	1233
Speed	772
Leaping	585
Sorcery	447
Leadership	408
Fighting	373
Teleportation	267
Invisibility	247
Force Of Will	118
Medicine	97

Edited November 5 by Troo

[mistagoat]

Oh yes please! There was an old thread that had stats from HC but I think that was done in 2019 and never repeated. I'd love to see some updated numbers but I'm not gonna hold my breath...

 

Edit: Here it is, it was actually from 2020.

Edited November 5 by mistagoat
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[Without_Pause]

Average level being under 9 is interesting. 

[Hedgefund]

I'm going to guess this is from that new shard that was added, Vanguard I think it is.  I say that because the main page has a reference to a player that is responsible for that server (from what I understand). 

 

I wouldn't take too much from the numbers generated, that's a real niche server, Robots THE most popular primary?  That doesn't match my "feels" for HC.

 

But to answer the OP, yes, that would be cool info to have.

[Neiska]

Clearly regen needs to be nerfed!

[Greycat]

1 hour ago, Without_Pause said:

Average level being under 9 is interesting. 

 

After the name release? 😄 I'm more curious about how long it stays that way.

 

As for the OP - yeah. I want to see CIT back for HC, basically.

[Without_Pause]

1 hour ago, Hedgefund said:

I wouldn't take too much from the numbers generated, that's a real niche server, Robots THE most popular primary?  That doesn't match my "feels" for HC.

Bots were the #1 pick according to the 2020 CoH data from the HC team and by a decent margin.

[Hedgefund]

51 minutes ago, Without_Pause said:

Bots were the #1 pick according to the 2020 CoH data from the HC team and by a decent margin.

The link to that data is right here in this very thread and Bots aren't anywhere near #1 overall.  "By a decent margin" lol.  It's #1 among MMs at that point but not even top 10 overall.

[Without_Pause]

21 minutes ago, Hedgefund said:

The link to that data is right here in this very thread and Bots aren't anywhere near #1 overall.  "By a decent margin" lol.  It's #1 among MMs at that point but not even top 10 overall.

I assumed you were talking about MMs as you didn't say +1 overall. There is zero reason for me to believe Bots would be the number one overall primary when as stated HC's own data completely disagrees with it. 

[Hedgefund]

4 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

I assumed you were talking about MMs as you didn't say +1 overall. There is zero reason for me to believe Bots would be the number one overall primary when as stated HC's own data completely disagrees with it. 

 

6 hours ago, Hedgefund said:

 

Robots THE most popular primary?  

 

I expected an emphasized "THE" to make it clear I was talking about overall, especially because it's right these in that data that it was #1 overall.

[Ukase]

They must have an interesting market there. The total inf number seems terribly low by HC standards.  

Only 63 Billion? If my math is right, that's less than 9m per character. 

[lemming]

1 hour ago, Ukase said:

They must have an interesting market there. The total inf number seems terribly low by HC standards.  

Only 63 Billion? If my math is right, that's less than 9m per character. 

Easily enough explained if they only count influence that is on characters and don't count email storage

[Bionic_Flea]

21 hours ago, Hedgefund said:

I'm going to guess this is from that new shard that was added, Vanguard I think it is.  I say that because the main page has a reference to a player that is responsible for that server (from what I understand). 

 

It's from Victory.  It says so on the top right. 

 

 

[Akalabeth]

I'm sad for any shard/server that has more masterminds, especially bots 1 damage attacks to ITF mobs amazing set, than anything else. 😞

 

I guess there ARE a lot of MSRs hehe.

[Michiyo]

I can confirm, those numbers are accurate.  There are 299 Robotics MMs, and 91 Spines characters.  We don't have the same amount of Fire Farms that HC has.  We're a *MUCH* smaller population, having less characters than even the smallest HC server, with 2-6 folks max online at any given time.  Our AH is stocked fairly cheaply, and we DO have a *TON* of level 1s which drags the average down.

[Troo]

6 hours ago, Michiyo said:

I can confirm, those numbers are accurate.  There are 299 Robotics MMs, and 91 Spines characters.  We don't have the same amount of Fire Farms that HC has.  We're a *MUCH* smaller population, having less characters than even the smallest HC server, with 2-6 folks max online at any given time.  Our AH is stocked fairly cheaply, and we DO have a *TON* of level 1s which drags the average down.

 

Well. I really like the well formatted page with numbers.

[Ukase]

7 hours ago, Michiyo said:

We're a *MUCH* smaller population, having less characters than even the smallest HC server, with 2-6 folks max online at any given time. 

I thought there was some plan in place to merge Victory with HC. I can't imagine the headaches involved with that - not to mention how attached some folks are to where they play, no matter how it might differ from the other. 
 

[Lunar Ronin]

On 11/5/2024 at 2:48 PM, Hedgefund said:

I'm going to guess this is from that new shard that was added, Vanguard I think it is.  I say that because the main page has a reference to a player that is responsible for that server (from what I understand). 

 

I wouldn't take too much from the numbers generated, that's a real niche server, Robots THE most popular primary?  That doesn't match my "feels" for HC.

 

But to answer the OP, yes, that would be cool info to have.

 

Victory has been around for over five years (just like Homecoming), but due to the tiny size of the player base there, you're mostly (if not entirely), soloing.  Masterminds are one of the best ATs to solo play with, so Robotics being the top power set isn't surprising.

[MoonSheep]

13 hours ago, Michiyo said:

I can confirm, those numbers are accurate.  There are 299 Robotics MMs, and 91 Spines characters.  We don't have the same amount of Fire Farms that HC has.  We're a *MUCH* smaller population, having less characters than even the smallest HC server, with 2-6 folks max online at any given time.  Our AH is stocked fairly cheaply, and we DO have a *TON* of level 1s which drags the average down.

 

wow, that’s an interesting dynamic. what was the culture and community like as a result?

 

i started on defiant in 2005 as a UK player, it had a reasonable population at peak times but would be fairly empty during the day

 

moving to Freedom in 2008 was like opening the door to a huge party, everything was happening all at once, Excelsior on HC has a similar feel at peak times - i often log on and watch the LFG chat for a minute or two before deciding what to join or form

[Ukase]

I recall playing on Rebirth server. There were times, when there were 50 players on, and other times only 5. 

The play experience there was a lot like it is on Indomitable. For the most part, all the players were experienced, quality players. Incarnate trials were done out of Pocket D, at roughly the same time on the weekends. MSRs were the same. I don't recall much by way of GM hunting. There certainly was no Null the Gull. It's very different in that regard. 

I suspect, when the player base is small, things go like that - you find some range of time that most can make, and players adapt/adjust accordingly, or simply do without. 



 

[MoonSheep]

32 minutes ago, Ukase said:

I recall playing on Rebirth server. There were times, when there were 50 players on, and other times only 5. 

The play experience there was a lot like it is on Indomitable. For the most part, all the players were experienced, quality players. Incarnate trials were done out of Pocket D, at roughly the same time on the weekends. MSRs were the same. I don't recall much by way of GM hunting. There certainly was no Null the Gull. It's very different in that regard. 

I suspect, when the player base is small, things go like that - you find some range of time that most can make, and players adapt/adjust accordingly, or simply do without. 



 

 

i bet there’s still someone to ruin the final battle of a Posi 1 though, in-line with “Snarky’s Law”

 

@Snarky

[Snarky]

55 minutes ago, MoonSheep said:

 

i bet there’s still someone to ruin the final battle of a Posi 1 though, in-line with “Snarky’s Law”

 

@Snarky

it's a feature not a flaw!

[Troo]

On 11/6/2024 at 11:18 AM, Michiyo said:

I can confirm, those numbers are accurate.  There are 299 Robotics MMs, and 91 Spines characters.  We don't have the same amount of Fire Farms that HC has.  We're a *MUCH* smaller population, having less characters than even the smallest HC server, with 2-6 folks max online at any given time.  Our AH is stocked fairly cheaply, and we DO have a *TON* of level 1s which drags the average down.

 

Soooo @Michiyo is there a chance that we could... massage a little of this and mix it with a little of that and have a Homecoming version of that page with no real problem?

 

Troo like.

 

 

Edited November 13 by Troo

[PsychicKitty]

good gravy my characters are over 10% of the stalkers on that list

 

[Troo]

@PsychicKitty 29, good grief. As a fellow Stalker I might ask if you have a favorite? (EM/RG being mine)