Nerfs - Stealth Changes - Bullshit

[Troo]

There are a ton of great things in Issue 28, Page 2.

 

There are also changes that have gone without documentation. It was a big drop so I appreciate somethings can fall through the cracks.

 

That said, changes are still happening and it's kinda bullshit.

 

 

 

 

[ZemX]

Stealth nerfs?!  But... my Stalker is already struggling!!!111

[Octogoat]

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[Psyonico]

Care to expand on these “stealth nerfs” or is this thread just for venting?

[Snarky]

I haven't seen any stealth nerfs.  wait, oh, i see.

 

STOP the Unseeable things!

[JasperStone]

1 minute ago, Snarky said:

I haven't seen any stealth nerfs.  wait, oh, i see.

 

STOP the Unseeable things!

I see what you are saying....

 

or do I

 

 

 

[tidge]

The only unexpected thing I noticed immediately after i28p2  was that something was seriously wrong with the Maintenance Drone from Robotics, but this appears to have been an introduced bug that has since been addressed. It was so bad, and so unexpected that it certainly felt like a 'nerf'. For a while there I thought it was an unannounced change to give that one user (who missed seeing his Protector Bots cast heals) what they wanted.

[MTeague]

Unless you care to itemize what you believe was done "stealthily", I'm not sure of the point of the thread.

[skoryy]

1 hour ago, MTeague said:

Unless you care to itemize what you believe was done "stealthily", I'm not sure of the point of the thread.

 

Things that make you go hmmmm.

[Forager]

Can you give an example?

[Troo]

23 minutes ago, Forager said:

Can you give an example?

 

Moment of Glory - 100 knock protection for 15.00s on self (reduced 90%+ to 7.50)

 

 

[arcane]

7 minutes ago, Troo said:

 

Moment of Glory - 100 knock protection for 15.00s on self (reduced 90%+ to 7.50)

 

 

Ah yes the vibrant community of Regeneration users that get knocked back through Integration. 
 

Is there a single stealth change you can point to that will ever impact anyone?

Edited Thursday at 05:31 PM by arcane

[Snarky]

Just now, arcane said:

Ah yes the vibrant community of Regeneration users that get knocked back through Integration. 

is that a definite integral?

[Oklahoman]

4 minutes ago, arcane said:

Is there a single stealth change you can point to that will ever impact anyone?

 

I have no way (or desire) to verify that the change to Moment of Glory was actually made as @Troo described, though I don't doubt them. In general, no matter how few people may be impacted by a change, I don't see why it shouldn't be in the patch notes. My guess is this was accidentally left out of the patch notes, but I hope it (and any other changes like it that were made) are amended to the patch notes now even though it does mean the player base didn't have the opportunity to provide feedback on it during the beta period. I also think that if it wasn't allowed a chance to be beta tested, we should be open to reversing it quickly and consider adding it back in to a future update.

[Psyonico]

14 minutes ago, Snarky said:

is that a definite integral?

I’m having flashbacks to high school calculus with that gif.

 

3 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

I have no way (or desire) to verify that the change to Moment of Glory was actually made

I can verify it is not mag 100 because I remember looking at it in game, I don’t remember what it actually is though and CoD shows it as mag -1.0 knockback for scrappers.

 

However, what I can’t verify is that it used to be mag 100

[Troo]

33 minutes ago, arcane said:

Ah yes the vibrant community of Regeneration users that get knocked back through Integration. 
 

Is there a single stealth change you can point to that will ever impact anyone?

 

Is it a documented change or not?

 

 

Edited Thursday at 06:03 PM by Troo

[Troo]

Moment of Glory - 100.00 repel protection for 15.00s on self (reduced to 7.50) & 1,000.00%% resistance to repel for 15.00s on self (reduced to 100)

[Go0gleplex]

I've noticed a distinct lack of being able to hit mobs; as in I'm whiffing a lot more than what I was last month across all 30 some toons. In some cases this is despite having ACC SO's slotted. Dunno if it's a result of a nerf or the mobs getting boosted, but it's certainly annoying. Nothing like going up against a white tag mob and then missing the next dozen strikes rather than two or three that was my old normal. lol 

[Snarky]

1 minute ago, Go0gleplex said:

I've noticed a distinct lack of being able to hit mobs; as in I'm whiffing a lot more than what I was last month across all 30 some toons. In some cases this is despite having ACC SO's slotted. Dunno if it's a result of a nerf or the mobs getting boosted, but it's certainly annoying. Nothing like going up against a white tag mob and then missing the next dozen strikes rather than two or three that was my old normal. lol 

i rarely miss.  Solo i run on easy mode, as i am doing every mission.  I use a kismet +to hit and standard +acc of 15-80, with most powers havein 35 or so

[Captain Fabulous]

Yes, because after 4 or 5 dozen patch notes since February the devs are obviously keeping this one change from us. 🙄

[The Chairman]

1 hour ago, Go0gleplex said:

I've noticed a distinct lack of being able to hit mobs; as in I'm whiffing a lot more than what I was last month across all 30 some toons. In some cases this is despite having ACC SO's slotted. Dunno if it's a result of a nerf or the mobs getting boosted, but it's certainly annoying. Nothing like going up against a white tag mob and then missing the next dozen strikes rather than two or three that was my old normal. lol 

 

Do you monitor Last Hit Chance? I felt like I was missing a lot yesterday, but my Last Hit Chance never dropped below 95%.

[Go0gleplex]

I don't know all the fun little tricks the numbers guys do. I'm just a casual player and an old fogey to boot that barely understands computers to begin with. (chuckles) So Last Chance...or all of that stuff is like speaking Greek to a Martian. 😉 All I know is that I've been whiffing with all my toons far more than what I had been doing (which had been less than 50% or so) which is more impression based than numbers based...but noticeable enough to be visible while playing. (shrug) 

 

[WumpusRat]

1 hour ago, The Chairman said:

 

Do you monitor Last Hit Chance? I felt like I was missing a lot yesterday, but my Last Hit Chance never dropped below 95%.

Yeah, the CoH rng has always been extremely finicky. The reason the streakbreaker got put in place originally is because we complained so much about streaks of misses with 95% to hit. 

Nothing like having 95% to hit and missing ten attacks in a row.

These days I still see stuff like "Miss, streakbreaker forced a hit, miss, streakbreaker, miss, streakbreaker, miss, streakbreaker, miss, streakbreaker."

[ivanhedgehog]

8 hours ago, Troo said:

 

Moment of Glory - 100 knock protection for 15.00s on self (reduced 90%+ to 7.50)

 

 

why in the hell do we need a 90% nerf? really? I am seeing a bunch of changes to make the game more tedious

 

[skoryy]

34 minutes ago, ivanhedgehog said:

why in the hell do we need a 90% nerf? really? I am seeing a bunch of changes to make the game more tedious

 

Please explain where not having 100 prot against knock for 15 seconds makes the game more tedious.