Darmian

@Aeroprism, I'm tooting my own bugle here, but since you've just done THAT mission, have a tiny looksee at the three Loyalist Praetorian AEs in my sig. They work in the order stated below. Now, they're level 19-24 because I wrote them so someone leaving Praetoria could go straight into them, so you may want higher level stuff. But things tie together.

Will this have to be published on the Beta Shard? Or when will the material required from the update go live?

Imperious struggles mightily against Romulus Augustus to reclaim Cimerora. With the aid of far flung demigods he will strike at the heart of the Usurper's endeavor. And when that victory is sealed, however costly, what then? Plans must be made and time waits for no man.

They're directly under Luminary's regular flight path as she patrols the city.

That looks like it could be annoying.

Possibly. It's been a while since I deep dove into the background on that.

I am. I mostly get by Croatoa by handwaving it as "Hallowe'en Town", with all that that entails. But it could have been BETTER. (I mean the Tuatha of the myths are basically Gods. The vast majority of which - I am struggling to think which of them isn't - are beautiful beyond human scale. And we get whatever those things are. The Fir Bolg are even worse.)

Appreciate the work done and the explanations given, @Faultline.

"Native Irish fey", SIGH BLOODY SIGH. So much native fae to to choose from and the OG Devs pick one that's from Scotland. Nothing wrong with that, but at least effing try to put it all together.* *Not a poke at @Crasical. Croatoa exercises me somewhat in its godawful could-have-been-great-but-we-got-bored/lazy approach.

I like to think that Blue Steel's shield is actually Atlas' old police uniform badge, LOL.

It's not going from one to another, it's opening one inside another is part of the issue.

Nail on the head. There literally isn't right now using the tools we have.

No, that's AJAX you're thinking of.

Well, like Tin Mage II or Luminary perhaps? Horus II? There's already a giant SPOILER warning at the top of the page, so I'll just say that Horus I dies (kinda) in the comic run. His Kheldian half persists though so definitely a late game Peacebringer/Warshade guy.

You don't see him at all in game other than that single place, handing out TF stuff and one instance in defending Vanguard's RWZ base from Mot. That annoyed me a bit so *Edited to update for Vanguard RWZ v Mot.

No, it's from a DA arc versus Mot. He never appears IN his own TF other than to give instructions.

Yeah, but for your delectation I provide this! 2/3 of the team together. With Apex actually holding War Witch's sword.

The novels are canon to my knowledge at least. "The Web of Arachnos" is set in the 20s/30s, up to Brass Monday, and nothing in game AFAIK contradicts anything in it. Similarly with "The Freedom Phalanx" being set in 1986, almost 20 years before the game starts, it contains nothing that contradicts anything in the game. In fact it provides some clarity on various bits and bobs of game lore found on plaques and so on. There are a few things that simply have to be taken on trust since the game cannot show them, such as Manticore's version of a "Batmobile"! Since the game came back I've re-read my copies twice, and like yourself @Glacier Peak , enjoyed them. I prefer the writing in the first to the second, but that's me. And as a Lore hound who likes to mine things for AE creation and tries to line things up with what's in the game we all play, I've found nothing contradictory or retconned about them. The comics are another matter entirely, and as they are all online anyone can check themselves. The intro Dark Horse issue is fun and apart from Statesman having a helmet and not a face plate, all is fine with that. The Blue King run is for my money the most consistent and best of the comics, and doesn't appear to be retconned in any way. My only gripe about that run is we never saw a version of Horus in game, though it would have to be a flashback I suppose. It would have made an interesting link to the Peacebringer path. Top Cow's run. How can I put this? Veers between "that was cool" to "oh dear god what cr*p". The entire Prometheus arc is blatant rubbish. The arc dealing with the Banished Pantheon is probably the best (and for my money the best part of this run), while the various bits of the Praetorian material have simply been retconned out of existence by Going Rogue.* The Cyrus Thompson story (playable via Twilight's Son) is nice, and the final two issues detailing the Rikti and the Honoree are decent. The less said about the fumetti/cosplay/adverts that comprise the two special editions, the better really. *Going Rogue didn't retcon ALL the old Praetorian material, notably the OG Maria Jenkins arc in game still happened, but none of the material in the comics is ever referenced there again, or for that matter in the game itself at all, either Pre or Post Going Rogue. I think I'm showing my biases enough for now!

I'll have to tag my future posts on Lore with a combination of "This is known", i.e. in game/novels/comics (though Going Rogue retconned a chunk of the comics) and speculation based on reasonable assumptions. And if you'll pardon the expression, I'm assuming my assumptions are reasonable! I'm always open to hear counter arguments though. I've pointedly NOT referenced the Lore AMA as "canon" here. Most of it probably is but the OG devs' statements on things that had yet to occur are now, thanks to HC, in a nebulous form unless and until the current devs implement any of them or state they are void. A tracery of possibility rather than carved in stone diktat.

Ah, ok. Didn't think of that.

Does the contact not give you the usual option to auto complete? I'm just asking.

Congrats to all!

Well, I showed up as myself, being a Loyalist Praetorian of Level 50 who never left. That's pretty mythical 🙂

It's a fun place to be, whether you are a returner from before or new.

Ah, gotta love that guy.