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True but I consider the target cap reductions bug fixes and not part of the buff package. Those were changed because they weren’t following standard formulas. Either way, maybe I better not bother making new Sonic Blast toons to PL before the patch since a serious fraction of posters appear to want to sink the DPA buffs.

@golstat2003 I never said that was the OP’s exact proposal - only that some chatter along those lines is why the thread was created at this time. See receipts. It might not be the case if this thread was created a month ago, but, in its current context, this thread was created because of AE babies losing their mind. I didn’t even weigh in on the OP’s specific proposal. I just don’t think that “because farmers are losing their minds” is a good reason to open this conversation in general. The devs may very well want to implement this proposal or others. I just didn’t like the smell of this proposal coming on the heels of a bunch of emotional blackmail from people threatening to quit the game over one specific breed of vet level farming. Hope that’s cleared up.

So you literally can’t fathom/imagine (1) the massive buff Blasters/Corruptors/Sentinels just got across the board and (2) the buff Defenders got outside of the edge case of debuff stacking on hard targets. It really discourages me to say this but these great buffs are going to get rolled back at the rate this feedback thread is going. I was looking forward to taking some characters out of the garbage but oh well.

Yes I am sure they will make some tweaks that work out nicely. But the reason THIS thread exists is because a few people got to talking about how maybe if the rest of the game was more like AE, we wouldn’t have to be crying apocalypse right now. And THAT is not a theory worth entertaining IMO. Whatever we decide to do with AE, the base game is fun and doesn’t need to shift that dramatically.

You should try a Bane Spider Huntsman build. Does really well with basically nothing but bullets and grenades.

If they were the same people wouldn’t be screaming that the sky is falling. If they were the same AE wouldn’t be jam packed and Portal Corps mostly deserted. They’re close enough to the same, sure. But I don’t believe that anyone thinks there is no difference because no one is acting as if there is no difference.

Unfortunately I don’t think we should be spending time solving problems that literally didn’t even exist until a couple of days ago when people upset about a small AE tweak fabricated a narrative about the rest of the game being too lame whilst flailing about in a blind rage.

Obviously any implication that *no one* plays or likes *anything* is a healthy blend of sarcasm and hyperbole with a grain of truth. So calm thine tits 🙂

I love the theme way more than Sonic pls don’t change it 🙂

Ok but who do you really know that likes MM’s

Celebrate a shitty holiday *twice* a year? Kill it with fire.

Yes I’m good with that too. 16 targets for all nukes.

Then you and I are in agreement that /Sonic Defenders can be left alone if that’s the consensus, sooo… is what necessary?

As I said, if others are in agreement that they would rather sink *all changes to the set for Defenders only* than lose their full 20% debuff, I will just enjoy the buff on my Blaster and leave my only Sonic Blast Defender in the trash. As the devs said, the strength of the 20% debuff was keeping them from buffing the set, so, yes, calls to retain the debuff equate to calls to scrap the changes as far as what they’re willing to do. I think that’s stupid as hell but hey I’m compromising amirite.

It isn’t a support set. It’s a blast set. And yes, a team vs a GM should be a part of the testing but a small part since it’s a small part of the game. DPS is the first and foremost concern of any set in the “Ranged Damage” category of sets. It’s in the name.

I too am asking for it and excitedly so. One of the best changes in the new page. Will make the most boring blast set not boring 🙂 See how opinions are opinions like that?

I don't understand... where are the pylon kill times between live vs test. Those are needed. The debuff numbers are meaningless to show us if you aren't going to try to represent the DPS situation as a whole.

Awesome tyvm 🙂 I never thought before of doing a fully dedicated AFK build but there are multiple things here that make a whole lot of sense.

Can you post the full text for those without Mids access? Or PM me. (Or just state what makes it even stronger than capped Fire Res/Def. Regen or HP or something? Please state if it’s implied that I need special macros…)

Oh well guys. If it’s that bad let’s leave the Defender set unchanged. I’ll play my Sonic Blaster but keep the /Sonic Defender on a dusty shelf because its damage is completely horrible. Shrug. IMO there are easier ways to kill AV’s than demanding that a ranged damage set stay a bad damage debuff set instead, but what do I know 🙂

They both are substantial now on beta. On live the -res is slightly more substantial and the damage is complete trash. I choose door 2.

Sonic Attack is on the subcategory “Ranged Damage” sets. It is not primarily a support set. It is a damage set. It should have the same opportunity to do reasonable damage as any other set.

Absolutely

Slight correction though because Plant is OP even if you have no secondary at all.

I disagree. I think what makes Power Booster Farsight broken is that it affects the caster. We don’t call Power Boosted Force Field Bubbles overpowered because they don’t self buff. If you look at every Support powerset you will see that powers that only affect allies are typically some of the strongest. If they got a self-Fortitude I would expect the values to be cut in half at least.