Doomguide2005

Curious as to how much regen per second would you need to match your Dark Regeneration?

Big fan of Earth and Dark although I've oddly enough never paired them. But yes please! Soon as I get a functional computer I'm thinking this and about 40 other builds (sheesh got to love chronic altitis) need creation.

I strongly agree with everything said above. The only thing I'd say is I would not consider Quicksand skippable but that's one reason I do agree with the sentiment of "take them all" and see how things work for you. I like QS for two reasons. It's very effective for slowing most mobs to a crawl giving you time to drop other powers on them before they scatter or reach that corner you're hiding around and recharges quickly. And secondly (or is that thirdly 😁) it's a very effective one slot power. I grew fond of using a range enhancement in it as I'd often find the spot I'd want to drop it was just barely short of letting me hide around the corner unless I had that range boost ( if I didn't know better I'd think they designed it that way🤪) Hiding around the corner to drop a patch whether it's QS, VG or EQ is an excellent way to avoid eating an alpha in return.

What the above posters have said. Leadership including Maneuvers would be something I'd look to obtain and I would not skip Glacier.

My only comment would be not to slot for damage in Freezing Rain. The only reason to slot damage is if you are chasing set bonuses and damage is a side effect. FR is primarily an AoE debuff particularly for -resistance. If you want more damage consider procs, but I'd personally look to boost its recharge and reduce its end consumption so it's up and ready every spawn and doesn't eat your end bar. Steamy Mist does yield decent defense but it's more along the values you can generate with Maneuvers as I recall. It also boost stealth and several resistances. And does so over an area and includes teammates in that area not just yourself.

@Hjarki - Defibrillate sounds like a niche power similar to something like Fallout.

Agree Elude needs a revamp of some sort. Pretty much anytime a power gets "skipped" so universally compared to the rest of comparable powers (primary vs primary, secondary vs secondary, pool vs pool etc.) it should send up a red flag that something is off.

Repel. I've used it once vs a DE ambush in Skyway. Small 'backyard' area surrounded by fences. The DE came piling over the top of the fences and my Kin/Dark defender kept knocking them back over with Repel. No idea how many were in the ambush, it was only me and a friend, but it went on for a bit so I'm sure some made a bunch of round trips over the fence while we whittled them down slowly 😁 Same defender also used to go "bowling" with council mechmen in Striga. They'd march around in single file and he would run through them with Repel on sending them flying every which way.

On a Dark or other to hit debuff set I can see that. Flip side is if your build produces large amounts of -resistance Assault will yield relatively greater return (vs sets without -resistance). And if it's a Dark/Sonic get them both 😁

Yes strictly speaking the math says Leadership should be the power(s) getting squeezed in not the other way around on support AT's. But folks make plenty of choices that aren't strictly based on the math. Still just once get on a team running 8 of each leadership power with no enhancements slotted and run hard content. Then ask this question again. You'll know the answer without doubt.

Did they change the way the "kismet proc" works, i.e. kismet +6% accuracy? Unless they have Vengeance is NOT a good place for it. Kismet is ( or was?) a "proc 120" meaning the proc functioned when the power was activated and for 120 seconds thereafter. So unless you could target a corpse every 120 seconds or less it wouldn't be beneficial in Vengeance. But yes Leadership is quite beneficial for Controllers as stated "Full "Stop" PS: Part of the reason static teams like Fire/Rads are so effective is 8 Assaults stacked (+120% damage) on top of their other buffs and debuffs (like AM another +160% damage iirc).

My vicarious self wants to see TF Saint Patty in action 😁

Same. Iirc Fake Nemesis are an example of this. Their staff attack I want to say is about mag 10 though memories are rusty enough I could be totally off. At one point I had mag 16 protection on one of my empaths owing to the crazy amounts of trip mines and their kb used by the Malta AV whose name I don't recall in the Tin Mage? I-trial. They've sjnce toned him down but I can recall be bounced all over the place when it first went live

Haven't yet used Victory Rush but just about all my defenders take Vengeance and drop the LotG +recharge in it.

Make sure your auto powers (Agile, Dodge, Lucky) are fully enhanced. Not only do they effect your respective positional defense bonuses but also, and perhaps more importantly, your ddr (defdebuff resistance). Also not sure if they've changed things but Kismet only functions if the power it is in is available and active. Important if you wish to benefit while exemped down below the level of Lucky. And again unless it got tweaked while I was not looking Focused Accuracy is a serious end hog. I'd consider trying to fit Tactics in instead. It'll do most of the same things for less end and also buff your teammates similarly.

And the music, even the log in screen music never mind stepping into Atlas Park with a new character or moving across the neighborhood's of Steel or ...

There was a thread on live about an AV soloist that wasn't RadEm or Cold or the usual sets ... and it was a Storm/Sonic. Don't quite recall the name, but it was something along the lines of "Wildcard" (either the forum name or the character). Inspired me to make a Storm/Sonic defender and while I never did the solo AV thing I can attest to the absurdly destructive power of the build.

Disclaimer I haven't done any I-trials since live so maybe I'd see some issues that I didn't see then but: My SR scrapper would still be standing after taking a 2000 damage hit, health would in fact still be triple digit. Rebirth is a thing and her regen without Rebrth is over 30/sec. Inspires are also a thing as is combining to get useful ones. Maybe SR isn't top dog but it is plenty capable of surviving and dishing it out in I-trials quite respectably.

Being forced to live vicariously as the computer up and died on me. So hoping I can get one *soon* .

On live I went /SR. Lots of fun but needed a bit of work yet, still slightly squishy at Sunset.

While I agree with what your saying math-wise it may come down to choice of pool powers between Leadership or Fighting. I'm going to guess you'd need roughly 3 other players (maybe 4 if they aren't defenders) rather than one to make up for being unable to slot the uniques and I think that is the underlying assumption made by Veelectric Boogaloo. And my experience tends to indicate that while finding one more is reasonably likely three is much, much less so (unfortunately).

My Claws/SR took Maneuvers. I tend to turn it on for a couple reasons. First when teaming and second if I see the graphics indicating my foes are using to hit buffs. (Longbow, Resistance etc.) Rarely if I think defdebuffs are piling up I might turn it on. Seldom have I seen more than -3% or so defense lost usually smaller

Ah pooh, as a not healer Empath offender Welcome back hero! 😊 to the game we all love. Won't mention how many bits of sometimes odd stuff 7 years made me forget and relearn. Heck ... still relearning 🤪

I don't think I have gotten a Dark Armor character over 20th ... but I've known and played alongside enough of them to know the idea of DA is bad is a whole pile of horse hooey. And DM I can say from personal experience is extremely not bad.

Dead computer is going to drive me crazy but iirc you can use Mids' to search for sets with specific set bonuses.