UltraAlt

Thanks. I apologize for being defensive.

I'd like to see the retention of some uniqueness among the archetypes. I like the fact that comic books were historically very stark in their delineation. I'm not a fan of the "everything is a grey area" I brought up super strength about blasters ... but I known in Seismic on test they can throw boulders at this point and summon meteors, so I guess we are sort of heading that way anyway.

Yes. One of the supergroups that I'm involved with is coalition-ed with 5 other supergroups. I don't know the limit. " A single supergroup can coalition with up to ten other supergroups, forming a coalition of up to eleven." - https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Coalition

Yes. Which proves my point. So I have two questions, why was your reply worded as an attack? Did I do something somehow to offend you by posting my opinion? But I guess you have the right to talk down to me because I'm just a "newbie" with 864 posts and a reputation of 546, while you are apparently superior being a "rookie" with 425 posts and a reputation of 206.

I think Spiderman is more of a tank. I agree that Spider-man does have super strength. Not to the degree of Superman, but strength far superior to "moral" men. More of a scrapper? No. He can take far more damage than a scrapper. he can throw around cars if he wanted to. He is more of a tank than a scrapper. Perhaps more of a brute, but that is a villain archetype and the thread is about scrappers gaining a tanker power set. If you give super strength to scrappers then why not give it to stalkers, dominators, and blasters as well? I think this falls into the same area as why scrappers don't have taunt.

People like to ding. I think Forum Badges are a bad idea. It is going to cause a flood of postings simply to achieve badges. It will also create a caste system by labeling the poster openly and obviously so others can make judgement upon them based on the displayed badge. Wasn't displaying the post count enough? There was no judgemental attachment to the number of posts. The badge names obviously imply something by the name chosen. Some "names" obviously have negative connotations. It would be best not to give someone a badge at all versus giving them one that implies a negative connotation. -- I'm going to go ahead and say it at this point. I think adding the thumbs-up and thumbs-down was a bad idea. I wasn't going to say anything, but, since I'm posting about the badges, I might as well say it now. The thumbs-down is just /jranger without a post.

Sure, they could be considered Stalkers, but those were originally villain-only archetypes. (I also figure that Batman et al are using the Stealth pool versus being Assassins) Your point is however noted, and I agree on some levels in regards to some portrayals of the characters more than others. I was trying to prove the point as to why tanks had super strength and scrappers did not. Batman isn't going to grab a hunk of concrete/boulder out of the ground and throw it at someone.

Batman is a scrapper. Superman is a tank.

what is your definition of "the moat badass"? I'm a character conception player, so I'm not sure what you are going for. Doing the most damage? Debuffing? fun?

Roof top to roof top for me.

Incise? You want us to cut you in order to ease your pain?

Okay, I can't deny that if you slot x3 KB in the repel, but still, even so....

Doing things that are disruptive to the rest of the team is only beautiful to the one being disruptive.

So you are confirming that you are down to personal attacks to try to prove something. Okay. Noted.

Why does it make sense? People avoid being on fire or any other kind of damage for that matter. Someone staying in a fire or in an area where they are getting injured is the part that doesn't make sense.

Yes. It is a suggestion and people are debating it. If they are posting to try to change my mind, they aren't saying anything that will change my mind, so I'm letting them know that. I'm not browbeating anyone by standing by my own stance. They have their view. I have mine. If anyone is attempting to browbeating someone, it is you attempting to browbeat me into silence.

I disagree for the reasons that I have already stated in this thread. The DEVs are the ones to decide. They can read both our stances. There is no reason for either of us to restate our stances.

"Threat Duration" isn't a set. "Taunt" is being renamed "Threat Duration"

But if you do damage to someone that is pacified, they can attack you. Which would apply first? I'm assuming the powers effects go off first and then the proc has a chance to go off, so you could be waking them up by the psi attack to attack you until they are placated again. Just saying ... All the powers are there to be used. I will admit that I don't use the Presence Pool as much as say Leadership. I'm a Leadership junkie. But the Presence pool has its place. Since I play by character conception, I definitely have characters who should have the Presence Pool. They are more likely to take it for the Fear effects. It's a bit annoying to have to go through the placates and taunts to get to the fear powers, but, if my character conception doesn't call for the placate or taunt, then don't even bother putting them in my tray. A couple slots lost for me isn't that big of a deal. I never use sprint, and I rarely use brawl after level 20. So the game already has it set-up for me to take powers out of my tray that I'm not going to use. 2 more on a character isn't a big deal to me, but I'm playing based on character conception. Honestly, I hadn't even read this (info about the change to taunt enhances being slottable by placate powers) before making my two test characters. Earth/Earth Dom and Seismic/Earth Blaster (I think I have those power set names and archetypes correct). But I made my Earth/Earth Dom with Presence pool selections. It fit (character conception) so I picked it. Perhaps this isn't a power pool that Mids ever lists? I don't use Mids so I don't know. The DEVs didn't create Mids.

I am against giving taunt to scrappers; I have already stated my reasons in this thread. I have already stated in this thread an option where scrappers can get taunt through the presence power pool..