golstat2003

The change is great and has made playing certain sets more fun. It’s one of the best changes they did.

Define fun. And who’s definition of fun should developers go with if every single player (or even every other player) has a different definition?

I think the points everyone has raised about moderation are great, so not going to rehash them. My only points 1. Disagreeing with a suggestion should not result in moderation as long as you are not insulting the person. People need to learn that this is an open forum not a place to monologue. If you don’t want any feedback (negative it positive) then simply PM what you want to suggest to a dev or mod. Some folks go from 0 to 100 just cause someone says “I don’t like your idea”. Hell I’ve seen some folks get angry even when you say “I like your idea, but how about adjusting it this way” while missing the point that the poster actually LIKED your idea. LOL 2. You can say an idea is not great with out calling it stupid. There is a way to do this easily. Were all adults. 3. Outright insulting anyone (poster dev or mod) should not surprise anyone if it results in mod action against them. Folks posting here are intelligent enough to know that. 4. If a person has been warned repeatedly about their actions, stop giving them a warning and just go straight to the ban hammer. Even a 1 day ban may allow them to cool off and rethink their actions. (Many folks may not like this last one but I think it’s needed for Mod and forum sanity at this point.) 5. If a thread is started for sole purpose of antagonizing folks or “othering” folks, then I see no reason why any mod should allow that to go for any extended period of time. Just lock it and move on. my 2 cents.

This is a perfect summation of all these discussions.

With that said there are a ton of things HC has done that I outright think were bad decisions: The Council Revamp Some of the changes having to do with the EMPs and conversions A very few specific changes to powersets Adding yet another currency system in a games nearing bloat on them Special costumes locked behind a high cost. (Related to the previous new currency). The change to how many folks are allowed in the Hive/Hamidon encounter I could go on. Does that mean I think they are sins? No. They are just changes I disagree with. I don’t expect them to always do things I like. I don’t expect them to even implement 1% of whatever is suggested in Suggestions and Feedback forum. Calling something or anything they do, that I don’t like a Sin seems a little overdramatic to me. Seems toxicly negative to me. And folks should be able to give feedback all they want. Want you don’t have is the right to expect folks on a public (or private for beta) forum to not tell you why they think you’re wrong. With all of that said I still prefer HC’s slow, methodical approach that focuses on proper testing and not just breaking stuff for shots and giggles, to COH over some other servers by a mile. EDIT: changes for clarity and typos

Yeah it feels like folks are just talking around the edges of things. If there is some specific sin, come out and say it. And banning certain people from beta because they were outright insulting to the devs to me is not a sin. You get the energy you put out. Or as my generation (40 and older say) “fuck around and find out”.

There are plenty of Dual Pistol users that don't jump around and act flashy. I too would like something a bit toned down for Dual Pistols. I think it was asked for during live also. Paragon simply never got around to it for obvious reasons.

This seems to be a better idea to entice players to play low level content IMO.

It's the same thing the HC devs have said in closed betas at some points. "Don't like it don't do it" has never convinced them as far as I know.

The feedback here has been logical and explains why this is a bad idea. (And often is what's posted in most of those suggestions) That's a good thing for the devs to see. Whether consider implementing this (the more I read this thread the more I think it would terrible for the game and isn't a good idea) the possible negatives are good to let them know about. HC isn't going to implement anything that brings so many negatives to the game, with little positive aspect. This does nothing to renew any of the low level content so I'm not sure what the point of this is if the argument is that low level content is boring. The folks PLing aren't really going to be interested in low level content unless there is a whole dump load (read 100 new low level missions) added to the game. Some of us have been playing this content for years. And even a system like New Dawn/Cake (which is essentially what you are suggesting here) does not make the low level content any more fun. I just bump myself to 50 while I'm on that server and go do the level 50 content there.

It would, the discussion so far is making not understand what the OP is looking for more and more. If the idea is to make the game more interesting, this isn't it.

Posting that an idea is difficult, why it wouldn't work, why someone doesn't like it, or why one shouldn't expect it anytime soon if ever, is NOT shooting down a suggestion. The title of this section of the forums is Suggestions and Feedback. That Feedback part includes feedback on suggestions. People can make every and all suggestions. People CANNOT make a suggestion and expect to never get any negative feedback (including "this is a bad idea").

Fair enough, but my broader point is that I don't think it's realistic to expect this any time soon. If you're fine with no seeing anything like this for 10 years (or more), then sure. lol

I doubt this would ever happen based on the philosophy of this dev team. Also This would be amazingly difficult to code base don how this game's code works. Even the New Dawn server (which has various types of free form systems similar to what the OP suggests) that has a similar system could not do this for some ATs, as the coding was too complex. Stalkers for instance do not have a free form power selection system over there due to how baked in Hide is. With the lack of dev resources here (again volunteer dev team) if this ever happened don't expect to see it any time until 2045.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with expressing dissenting opinions or saying why you think a suggestion is a bad idea. The title of this part if the forums is Suggestions and Feedback.

Agreed. This is the most silly definition of gatekeeping I've ever heard. Tilting at windmills is a favorite past time in this part of the forums. The knockback issue really isn't even up for discussion until a dev says they view the so called "slot tax" of changing KB to KD with an enhancement as an actual tax. Everything from various posts to comments in beta seems to lean in the opposite: that this is what's expected of players if they don't like the KB. I've never once in the literal decades that this has been discussed seen dev say "yeah we'll do universal or in set changes to move something from KB to KD", and especially not on sets as strong as something like illusion control. But maybe I'm wrong and a dev will choose to chime in this time. (Not holding my breath lol)

agreed. The only way I can see this, if it's made auto with the full effect as if it were at least two slotted with two level 50 recharge IOs. I doubt the devs would agree to that.

Absolute insanity.

On some Doms I do take the concealment pool, just to get the extra LOTG recharge cause it makes perma doming easier.

I could have sworn this was brought up before and a dev did in fact chime in that having more than one auto power was something they were not inclined to do. But I can’t find the post.

as mentioned only a dev can confirm.

I don't think anyone is saying anyone has to prove anyting. Folks are just pointing out the POSSIBLE pitfalls to any suggestion. Answering those can help the poster (or others) refine a suggestion or offer alternative approaches. Which happened in this thread when the idea of the checkbox came up. (Though not what the Original Poster asked for).

As someone who works in IT for planning, these are the types of questions Developers, Architects, Business Analysists and QA folks are challenged daily to ask. I'm sure the dev team would also have to look into these. They may be volunteers here, but they sure as hell ARE professionals in their day to day paid jobs. On a side note, I'm glad HC takes a methodical approach like this to anything they implement. And that's not guessing or assumptions before anyone says so. Just spend any time in the betas Discord and you can see it first hand. I've seen what happens on other COH servers when things are done in a slapdash throw everything at the wall manner.

I don't like is a perfectly fine post. It helps the devs judge how popular or unpopular and idea is. And that helps the dev to give them direction if they ever do decide to go on a spree of implementing suggestions from the forums (not likely they will or will ever have the manpower to go on ANY spree, but one can dream.) I don't thik any idea is dumb, but there are some that . . . well shouldn't be suggested. But that's subjective and is STILL not calling the actual poster dumb, stupid or awful. Those are two very different things. We may have to agree to disagree here.

I’ll saying again pointing out why a suggestion is problematic or would take too much budget or you would rather the devs do something else is NOT toxic. If folks don’t want discussion about their suggestions they should just dm it to a dev or GM and be done. This is a public forum. Telling folks why you think a suggestion won’t work isn’t toxic. Sick of seeing that false argument.