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I had nearly every mm power combo on live, at 50 and nearly all of them io out. And I’m sorry but poison is not on the same level as traps or time for dropping AV. You will frequently lose pets to one shots and spend a lot of time and endurance replacing them or being without while the power recharges. It’s good in a team and pvp but not solo and not on the level of other combinations possible.

you're never going to find the perfect mm build for all content. thugs and bots with traps, time and ff melt to mobs with tohit buffs and there is a mission in the maria Jenkins arc that is filled with mobs that debuff defense and have targeting drones. they actually killed my dark/staff tanker who is normally unkillable (it was set to 4/8 though). demons/thermal wrecks av's but on +3. even with perma -500% regen on a +4 they can't do enough damage to break the regen on nightstar without lore pets. on +3 she melts. so far none of the maria Jenkins av's have been a real issue. only issue would be a giant group of crey - too much energy damage. or a giant group of carnies - too much psi damage. I have tried and tried for years to find that perfect, can do it all setup and it just does not exist in this game especially for masterminds. but this demons/thermal is pretty close. I was playing with a demons/nature as that secondary only gives up a little bit by way of resists (like 4 points) to thermal, but the healing is not actually as good. regrowth takes 10s to do it's full healing vs. spamming warmth and cauterize. the absorb is good but it takes a lot of recharge just to get the cd to 1 minute and perma overgrowth is over 210% recharge needed which again is hard to do without sacrificing your defenses. it would be a better teaming combo cause forge sucks.

just an FYI but you are no longer auto granted the patron power pools.

I can have bruiser in a skirt?

that's the tradeoff for the aoe elec primary has. on the old thread though even those that "cheated" keeping mobs in range for against all odds didn't beat many times.

Advantage Bubbles and Cold, they can apply their defense buffs over distance and quickly. Not everyone or everything is in range when FS goes off. true but that's the teams problem. I tell 'em to gather for farsight. they don't pay attention. they can read chat from the hospital.

Checkout this one min video of the Soulbound BU proc. The little pink/purple circle, that looks like Super Reflex's Quickness symbol, is the BU buff icon. It occurs often, sometimes proccing twice in a short span for a double buff. geez you are having better rng with that than I am. I watched it for a while and saw like 2 procs a minute average.

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Use the command the default attack command aggressive and change it to defensive. what? the attack my target command immediately puts them into aggressive. can you edit the command? right click>edit

while yes, perf shifter and panacea do work in lifegiving spores and give that little spurt to whomever it procs on in the field, since the ppm changes for i24 it's not worth slotting them. for a power like spores the system will check once every 10 seconds and try to proc it once - and only once. on one target. it is EXTREMELY rare for it to proc on more than one target per 10 second tick. tested using thugs/nature and panacea (green number floats over head for a different value than spores so easty to tell)

put the proc in phantom army to make them knock things down. put sudden acceleration in the phantasm to make him stop knocking things around.

Call me a noob, but wtf is a crab mind? arachnos soldier at that went crab armor, took all the pets and made them perma. it's the most destructive force in the game and the most expensive thing to io out and sucks as all hell to level until you get to that point when not in a group. it's also one of the largest force mutipliers you can add to a group due to all of super high leadership toggles.

nothing was changed between i23 the last build on live to i25 that would have unseated street justice from the top spot. the only change that hosed most people were many io procs going from chance to ppm, including the stalker ato.

overwhelming force you can only use one of and it does more than just change kb to kd, it gives all attacks a chance to knock down. 20%. use it in the pet with the most attacks. i dont know offhand how many attacks the little bots get. if one has 5 attacks, then they have 15 total chances to proc that bad boy. there is another io in sudden acceleration that changes kb to kd and that is not unique, so you can place in both assault bot and protector bot. I think I'm at a loss for a slot for Sudden Acceleration. After slotting 3 IOs for DEF/Res for pets, there's not a lot of room for others. I *might* be able to squeeze 1 sudden acceleration in, but its dependant on later-game slotting after some Hami-Os are available. Until then, I might be just able to slot and use the Overwhelming Force... peep the slotting in this build. the build up chance in assault bot you can live without since it went from a 50% chance to 3ppm, which mean if you are lucky it will go off every 20 seconds or so, and might not always get you those three from my observations using it on a few mm's now. put sudden acceleration there. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1509;720;1440;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135114C6EFB453A0056C4B29E5511E2D8F4281D2227B134050A1DA0| |8A2AE482D034CD2CE34B44D64E9BFA0894463D49D61E3CA0482C648E20B36BA03DF| |D19D0BD1A5BBF130DFB16DD206F29B7BEE797D67CEC4AF4FD63D9EBE714A48AE897| |432975B8C277379652DA36A4B8E7925B5AAE9697D65DD2A84A899584FA575AD90AB| |A6436BC96D71AE90C9E85AE4A27E4DCFABA95CA0EC6ABCB0BC1C9957330AA5D5D46| |C219DCCABBA26EA13BA9E8E4CA92BAB79555BA9C5297D7C749ACFB34A724959CBAD| |AA5987799ECB2ACA92FF74564D45CA92C7932985DB5D6FA69E06E87FC726F867D8C| |4B84588982C2CDFADE04B507ECD7C0B56ED8107DE62AC241E49A62DB0091ED29D84| |3B599A81AD2A0ED69C675E001D09F003C55839C6FA14BD38B640D736D8B0C37C023| |EA3FE21C110B680306D120DBC9A6DD506FDC447CA6CE74EED83F06A623EA7F05A9E| |406D076C75F332B8009EB8CCFC4155DBA99BAB38DBA94CBD29D3B0D47BA1A2D1053| |679C04F54DBC9F99D07886F3E643E904C763C04BBEE33EF8156CAEF467E9BDB075B| |E328A6DF3386FC3D51660C1C19053F535D0F4FD37316D3EA3A0306A6995360F7242| |8533D2FEBF1B29E6ED6D3CD7ADCE4E3838FD5C73EE14670987D47FE0AB3D71734DB| |16D6DE7209336BBDC27C031DFE57CC9FE416A2594CA0972FD47F1BF7D2C67586FFD| |7718341EAA59DDF6B3BBFCF0EE62ED5EEE42DE8E4CDF84A3983DC4F701F7542EFC0| |81F7CC56F886F7708EED123DB2F846B1BDFC2E7A7963FB78B3FB78B3FB78B343BCD| |9A15BC8B14D12FB594B3F6B19622D433CB3A33A2106E12306594303E98BB086086B| |D8A25C51D61CBD8BD8D81DD02F17BF48FA3BDEFC7085255A618955584E5658C62A2| |CB3159678C96224E4E2F72F24F3D6EE2A7EDDC62F07DDB2566918BA7E976C16E99C| |64EE427881F505B02347E571FD88FBE32856B2481BFC0E6F8243B7C119FA1062883| |336CA9E3783A5E7695FE9F91FBEA9F58A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

that hasn't been the case since incarnates came out for sure. they may actually be on the weaker side until you t4 most of your incarnates. i mean my dark/staff tanker can't be killed by anything. health bar hardly moves. end bar hardly moves. can kill an av but would finish the entire extended trilogy of the lord of the rings movies before it dies. I have a lifetime sub to CO and played tehre just recently. however i dont care for the game. the p2w schemes now, the fact it's the same engine as sto which is horrible by way of animations and movement and collision. they went with a comic STRIP art style and notn a comic BOOK art style which i actually find insulting given comic BOOKS haven't had to be dumbed down for kids since the CCA went away in the 80's and 90's. their version of teleport sucks but i like swinging. freeform is a trap that ends up with people abandoning characters in their teens over and over or you find yourself pugging with people that are not only not helpful but a detriment to your group.

Not the hero we needed...

overwhelming force you can only use one of and it does more than just change kb to kd, it gives all attacks a chance to knock down. 20%. use it in the pet with the most attacks. i dont know offhand how many attacks the little bots get. if one has 5 attacks, then they have 15 total chances to proc that bad boy. there is another io in sudden acceleration that changes kb to kd and that is not unique, so you can place in both assault bot and protector bot.

because it's one of the few remaining io's that are still percent chance and not ppm, it works best on pets with many attacks. genin have 6 different attacks x3 pets - 18 chances to knock stuff down.

time is expensive to run well in a difficult situation. when battling tough av's that just can't seem to miss or if you are playing a primary that can't softcap their defense then spamming temporal mending is extremely expensive, as is keeping time crawl and time stop up for the -regen. it's typical for an mm to have a recurring end cost of 1.3-1.5 and if you are a busy mastermind or forced to be busy due to the situation, anything under 5 end per second is going to be harsh. chrono shift will only bring you to a little over 4.4 with all accolades.

time does it all better. powerboosted farsight is only 3 points off one of the cold bubbles only it's def to all whereas the cold bubbles have defensive holes.

Here is what I did. A few notes here: No need for fly. buy a pack at the p2w. With ouroboros and tunnel etc. it's easy to get around and no need for afterburner. hover however is good. it's either that or CJ anyway and i do like hover. you were at near 80% smash/lethal defense but not positional. You also had a purple set but none of the mastermind uniques. Note these are readily available in their non superior form on the ah if you dont want to farm marks for them. You also had none of the mm defense auras. this now has chrono shift and slowed responses perma, you pve capped to positional and incarnate caped to smash/lethal and your pets capped to pve except your probots as they cant double stack the bubble on themselves. although i have the build up proc in the assault bot, from my own experience this is not a mandatory io anymore for mm. it went from a 50% chance to proc to 3ppm. it's not going to go off very often anymore. replace this with the sudden acceleration -kb io instead so stuff stays in the burn patches. web envelope to - again- keep things in the burn patches. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1509;720;1440;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135114C6EFB453A0056C4B29E5511E2D8F4281D2227B134050A1DA0| |8A2AE482D034CD2CE34B44D64E9BFA0894463D49D61E3CA0482C648E20B36BA03DF| |D19D0BD1A5BBF130DFB16DD206F29B7BEE797D67CEC4AF4FD63D9EBE714A48AE897| |432975B8C277379652DA36A4B8E7925B5AAE9697D65DD2A84A899584FA575AD90AB| |A6436BC96D71AE90C9E85AE4A27E4DCFABA95CA0EC6ABCB0BC1C9957330AA5D5D46| |C219DCCABBA26EA13BA9E8E4CA92BAB79555BA9C5297D7C749ACFB34A724959CBAD| |AA5987799ECB2ACA92FF74564D45CA92C7932985DB5D6FA69E06E87FC726F867D8C| |4B84588982C2CDFADE04B507ECD7C0B56ED8107DE62AC241E49A62DB0091ED29D84| |3B599A81AD2A0ED69C675E001D09F003C55839C6FA14BD38B640D736D8B0C37C023| |EA3FE21C110B680306D120DBC9A6DD506FDC447CA6CE74EED83F06A623EA7F05A9E| |406D076C75F332B8009EB8CCFC4155DBA99BAB38DBA94CBD29D3B0D47BA1A2D1053| |679C04F54DBC9F99D07886F3E643E904C763C04BBEE33EF8156CAEF467E9BDB075B| |E328A6DF3386FC3D51660C1C19053F535D0F4FD37316D3EA3A0306A6995360F7242| |8533D2FEBF1B29E6ED6D3CD7ADCE4E3838FD5C73EE14670987D47FE0AB3D71734DB| |16D6DE7209336BBDC27C031DFE57CC9FE416A2594CA0972FD47F1BF7D2C67586FFD| |7718341EAA59DDF6B3BBFCF0EE62ED5EEE42DE8E4CDF84A3983DC4F701F7542EFC0| |81F7CC56F886F7708EED123DB2F846B1BDFC2E7A7963FB78B3FB78B3FB78B343BCD| |9A15BC8B14D12FB594B3F6B19622D433CB3A33A2106E12306594303E98BB086086B| |D8A25C51D61CBD8BD8D81DD02F17BF48FA3BDEFC7085255A618955584E5658C62A2| |CB3159678C96224E4E2F72F24F3D6EE2A7EDDC62F07DDB2566918BA7E976C16E99C| |64EE427881F505B02347E571FD88FBE32856B2481BFC0E6F8243B7C119FA1062883| |336CA9E3783A5E7695FE9F91FBEA9F58A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

necro will not do as much damage as demon. your highest damage dealers for both sets are the lieutenants, but yours do lethal while demons do a mix of fire and toxic. the hell fire demonling and the hellfire demon both apply -resists with their breath attacks and they stack feeding this further. kin is an interesting choice for an mm. while you can spam transference all day long with your melee pets you still need another layer to keep them alive. i believe the pet damage cap is pretty low like 200% so a half-assed fulcrum will cap them easy. your pets will benefit from the recovery in speed boost and transference means you won't need to take ageless like so many masterminds need to due to mastermind secondaries having an added endurance cost. you could go for barrier and really make your pets tanky - for a time.

Still the best game soundtrack ever produced.

waterspout does insane aoe and single target damage body mastery means you don't need to take ageless incarnate.

i'm working on a street justice/rad armor that may just trounce all. rad armor has amazing recovery and healing options as well as absorbs and good resists. while you won't softcap any defense you'll be within a small insp of it and have layered resists, a heal and a heal+absorb plus whatever incarnate goodies you go for.