Snarky

Here it is. I need to change a few things based on my playstyle. Touch of fear is useful. In really oddball situations. I used it to keep RoMs healing nictus off balance and killed it. Don't ask it was a horribly stupid ITF. But the power does stack with cloak of fear and hits 5 under the new rules. I need to figure a way to Enhance Gloom. I use it A LOT. Even if that means using Smites slots to do it. Then of course, any brilliant optimizations would be great too lol. it looks like I should try to softcap S/L Not a big worry for me. While not the Tankiest build the Stealth + Fear Aura +Stun Aura +tohit debuffs on everything does a decent job of damage mitigation even in....well, remarkably stupid ITFs and Farms. If anything I would like to increase resistance while keeping/enhancing global recharge. Thinking all night. Under pressure I would have loved Rune of Protection last night. I could drop gloom and pick up clunky Arcane bolt. (sniping surgeons is my favorite use for the power. trying to be ranged is not effective so it might improve my playstyle to drop Gloom. Arcane Bolt has KD and a Sup Winter with -speed / Rech would harass better ) Since a one slotted gloom on a Brute is meh at best this is a possible trade out that doesnt give up much. Then, drop Touch of Fear and Grab Rune of Protection. I rarely use Touch of Fear. In tough fights I would love Rune. I would not need to slot Rune for Recharge. The build is a Recharge monster. In effect I could drop in one of the resist Procs and GAIN a slot somewhere else on the build... I am thinking adding an enhancer to Cloak of Fear. Get a proc for damage and the two set gives a 2.25% energy/Neg Resistance.... Both small improvements, yet it all adds. And the rolling added Resistance which would be up 50% time.... This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky 2.2: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hct-Dam%(25) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(9) Level 2: Death Shroud -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(15) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(23) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 8: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(27) Level 12: Siphon Life -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(33) Level 14: Touch of Fear -- CldSns-%Dam(A) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29), Rct-ResDam%(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40) Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- HO:Endo(A) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A) Level 38: Soul Tentacles -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(43), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(45), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46) Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 47: Gloom -- Apc-Dam%(A) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1440;653;1306;HEX;| |78DA6594594F53511485CF1D6A6D6929C8D032C93C562B2D88730C8A98A84D48487| |C250D5CB1B152D242228F3EF8AE1263A2CCEAABBFC81FE083808A468DC275DFB396| |A8B94D6EBEEE75F73A7B9F7D7A9A7D3016797BFDE16565545C2DE4CAE5A92BA5C50| |52790CDCDE6A72DA55478722E57BAB7D49649658212D6EBD75359A7E038A9317983| |AF09C863CE1D67AECC17A3A5FBC5928A4C148B85D464B134ED9496A23A18CFCFDE5| |DC8CFCDFE1F859138EF3833F16BF3F9E914969C2C2E16A6B2B9F282D813D240B73C| |1FD49F8F1B503DA652E990327BC93ED0EE2707C044127CE1D90CEDB5D5174B6B47B| |E92DFC0A3DFC90CF8D2B3C0133022B6D6C251B2128CC4C82AB0B21A5C1197C57A16| |EBD5B25E2DEBD5B35E7D5C125B426A5BB203DC5FE02CFAAE3C07569D272F80C72E9| |297C0651950105E157C076D55A2107AB042EC21C11E1AD943E30F7057B22AB8D78A| |0D68CD9BE0F12DF215F91A6C7B03EE882BCADAD1F7A6DECB9A44313D70D78EFD443| |F6DBFC87DB0FD8074C14F925D4D4F353DEDF474D2D3494F273DEB925DC33DD6EC2B| |5DBBB9CED0EFFAF7D05FFAA6C7A032654075C855758FE0B7448BD31FE78CBA38A32| |ECEA88BE7F459B21AD05FA06105E7DCB34AAE91EB60EF06B9096E88AB89336A1A51| |FAB06C795AD84F0B7BDE93A8157976EB63AEF104EC7F4A2E83279E819B92DDC1B53| |BF4DA969AB17067BC5EBBF7913770409F0B9EF47E6D1E0DD2041DF1F6D1DB97C19C| |4E0D91C3E469303D429E013B644F49ECC9482615EA91DE1F4B8A7DA6D2C8DF92681| |0335583CC1BB70FEFAADB6C1FDE792F745D75CBA74CD84C17C5D0CA76F8F0E652D9| |F129BB7F15D368F74ED856033744E815DE3674FCF15FD7731339BEFA833E25ED538| |67CCAB04F0955C97F0614F737EEE5F0F8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

which is why i street hunt Atlas incarnated. you take your time and pick your fights that way.

Come the war Come the avarice Come the war Come hell Come attrition Come the reek of bones Come attrition Come hell And this is why Why we fight Why we lie awake This is why This is why we fight And when we die We will die With our arms unbound This is why This is why we fight Come hell Bride of quiet Bride of all unquiet things Bride of quiet Bride of hell Come the archers Come the infantry Come the archers Of hell And this is why Why we fight Why we lie awake This is why This is why we fight And when we die We will die With our arms unbound This is why This is why we fight Come hell So come to me Come to me now Lay your arms around me This is why This is why we fight Come hell

I would love to see it. My main is a dark dark Brute. 800 badges in and probably time for a review of ideas on changing the build up (and/or adding a second build)

thanks at least now i know to eyeball it. i can carry the 1+% in my head as i build. the 15% i had no idea was there really threw me. if i built tanks more instead of brutes i might have noticed. i was already in awe of the armor differences. I tried recreating this build on a Brute, inverted. Not even close. So on the Brute I moved to Purple sets and a high recharge build with Hasten Perma. Which gives Soul Drain perma. I am thinking the Brute will be way more powerful than the +8% damage I have heard bandied around. Although the Tank is insanely more armored.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Mrc-Rcvry+(15) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Resilient Core Paragon Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1487;695;1390;HEX;| |78DA6594D94E53511486F7694FC596222042190B2D63018F5431718C173204A4090| |9C62B4D53715B1A9A0369AB914B1371B85370B851D117F001F42D9C007D03236AE2| |0446ADABE7FF05929EA4FDF6FEF75AFB5FEB74EFC6AE0CF89F0D5F3DA10CFFC9742| |29B8D9F4ED8D33AE3892592A949258FB720B4C85497C82C88E5F880BEA8EDACB646| |ECCB97D2B6CE24CEA7D2A9DC5C80CB319DD6DA1A4864A631AC1CB1A77446DB39EBF| 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*facepalm. grrr. I could not understand why Defense walked itself home all across the board. Sigh. How the F you change that again? (found it) Thankfully the solution is easy. Swap out a Superior Blistering cold for Hecatomb in Midnight Grasp.

Here is a comparison I worked on tonight. Given what you folks have told me. There is NO comparison. Invul / Dark Tank, Money no object...versus Dark / Invul Brute...Money no object. The Tank is unkillable. Maybe if you dropped a few buildings, simultaneously on it. Tim,e it right though or it will hit Dull Pain and you are in for a long fight. The Brute is TOUGH. But a lot of places where it can be harmed. The Tank can now be incarnated for PURE Damage. Because it is unkillable. The Brute can settle for very very good survivability and get damage. Or use Incarnate powers to get the survivability the Tank already has. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Brute Mage: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(45) Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 4: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(7) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(21) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 10: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam(13) Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(31) Level 20: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(46), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(48) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48) Level 24: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(37) Level 28: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def(31), Rct-ResDam%(42) Level 30: Arcane Bolt -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Apc-Dam%(50) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Hct-Dam%(34) Level 35: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(36), ShlWal-Def(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36) Level 38: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(39), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(39) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42) Level 44: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 47: Physical Perfection -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1344;637;1274;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135118C5EFB45390D202E5514068A1C5BE281DA871E133265A20284| |D4848DC36B55E6B63D392B618BB74E15EC1E8C607F8D8FA27F8F6AF31880A4677F5| |EB9C1324A1E9F4D7EFDCF3DD39F7DE99ECDD8CE7EDE2BD8BCAE8BE5CCED7EBB94BB| |5F5867665F3C552C1A99472DBF5A4D4BA534ABF5DE6B2BAACB595C9D76EE36F0072| |46DFD495BAB6962A77D6CB155DCB5F2F954B8DA6F2AE54AB656BA154BCD528558A1| |EBB5AADD60ABAD674A358D3FA06F4659D5F13D3E8FC5AA960CDCB24C5662E9BAF37| |C48B6C23126342AE6F7229A3FDD372A92DC99A36D5F436F9927C05CEBC26DF80EFF| |EF73AD5BE68315375FCC6D8B13FE45FF07DDB4AAFB10FCD41AF835E93DE0FE26AEF| |9A781DCEAC81B155B02308CF8E8CBA98DB75DA616B9E3360CF59F21CD87F1E1CBC0| |0EE4A5727E6373B1F98B6167B486E909B60E211F851DC5DCCDF1534ECB5BA27C810| |E809830E99BC1B5ED57D1FF7748AE665BF97EB9FE1FA535C7F8AEBFF24AE5E7A7BE| |9EDA3B78FDE7E7A7F8ACB676F6CCBE57B8AAC83CFC091E7E0F117E41618DC063F4B| |D700EEE31848207BEA24E69D1D963A20FB2EB987E031871630E65F2497C0912BEC1| |9C2196D46941AC6FEAAE1318CFD926A9439473DCCE105433DE0895EB28FF4815FA4| |6B0CBDE618338C33C33833049921B1076E4886007307667006B329306D9173641AD| |C6BBF137CA626A2D02663649C4C80A16932097E95AE30CF2CCC8C53CC38C56C5357| |C1C7922D82FD7146789ED153641A7B184D8261D9FF38E635E2498535925D3EA5927| |CCE924FF80E886651B3AE610EBFCC31476D8E67346E2A7E5AF2958F5A300FDEE6D6| |F291D1159383A218B6B2E33E78A3A9EC1E564258CFF723AE1F8715A6FE07A97FCC9| |0| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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Whatever one i am currently on...

Okay, I re-worked this onto a Invulnerable / Dark Melee. I do believe it is tougher than the Invul / SS and I would hazard meaner as well. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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okay, i just realized i quoted you from the general discussion before realizing this was your thread. now that is funny. also seems you already have seen many of these answers...

I seriously hope these ideas are going someplace beside the dust bin lol A "generic" very large robot head. / armored head. Think the robot from Disney's Black Hole. Or simlar to The Juggernauts bullet helmet. Just a very large blob with minimal adornments. Maybe a round one and a cone one for some variety. And if really feeling like being special a few different visor and voicebox possibilities. Because, sometimes, more is just more. Also, if you upscale a regular large helmet (at all) the clipping really is noticeable. This way you can just plunk the thing down like "The Tank" brain in a jar and walk on any clipping.

Is there a simple explanation (lets say at 50 to make the comparison easy, I know Brutes Fury at low levels is very helpful) of the damage comparison of a Tank and A Brute? Brutes used to be definitely better. Heck, for a while on live Brutes were out damaging Scrappers. *shakes fist at nerf gods in the sky. But after the "Great Tanker Un-Nerfing" (tm) I am given to understand the damage is very similar. Is this true. There are so many reasons I did not post this in either the Tanker or Brute forums. Thanks for the feedback. Double Thanks for numbers!

Here is my SS/Willpower from a year ago. I don't currently have this build active. Shattered for parts. I do have a SS/Invul Brute and a Dark/Invul Brute, and a Dark/Dark main actually lol. I also have an Energy/Invul I am going to 50 sometime soon and complete, probably to leave up if it runs as good as I hope. Oh, and my Dark/Fire Farmer. Which is literally GOLD in farming, but a true pain in TFs. (just not enough enemies to keep him fed well lol) This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Super Strength Secondary Power Set: Willpower Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Punch -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(7) Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11) Level 2: Haymaker -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(17) Level 4: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 6: Fast Healing -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(25), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), NmnCnv-Heal(27) Level 8: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(29), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(31) Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 12: Kick -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(31), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(31), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), TchofDth-Dam%(33) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-Max HP%(34) Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- DmpSpr-ToHitDeb(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg(36), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(36), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(36), Prv-Heal(37), Prv-Absorb%(37) Level 18: Rage -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(39), AdjTrg-Rchg(40) Level 20: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def(42) Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43) Level 26: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-Def/EndRdx(A), Ksm-Def/Rchg(43), Ksm-ToHit+(43) Level 28: Heightened Senses -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def(45), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45) Level 30: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/Rchg(40), Rct-Def/EndRdx(46), Rct-ResDam%(46) Level 32: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(48) Level 35: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50) Level 38: Strength of Will -- Ags-Psi/Status(A) Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50) Level 44: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 49: Tactics -- RctRtc-Pcptn(A), RctRtc-ToHit(50) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1445;678;1356;HEX;| |78DA6594594F13511886CFB453B1D0D296026515CB22C852C1E5DA445922D204AD4| |BE2D634702C8D4D69A625CAA5FFC0355E28B2E9AD51E39F71D73B6F008D1AC5C48C| |5FE77D05639B4C9F9EF75BCF37E7347E6DD8F764ECFA6165541DCDA60A85E4116BA| |EA83DF1543A33E5564AED48E452D695F90AF9D9E49892719DD53A9698CB6B2B9928| |5A3A972ECE44601AD69775AEA0636733D96C7EF6AAB6947F7276361B1BCDA4678A9| |95CBAD25925F25A4FFB9C9F133A95173DF07731ADADC24C26DF3892CF4CC54672DA| |4ACF27E3A942515BF368AC41FAE892A7DD90AFD2A36C8F5A9246874CE55A2657407| |3957C04EE780CBE54FFC47EA3ED3BB8F307F913ACDC4F4624A0D5541D0283B186CF| |746C3E3F590D5607C820180C81AF24CA8D58B79B756B59B79675EB59F7B57879E06| |B7A4E18B09D041B12E429B0E934D82528BDA7524CC50DD46CBA09B6DC26EF80BBEE| |826FC4DB8B3ACA5B873C2E4952853C9EAA73826EF13F4F5E00775F242F9149D02DB| |17EEED1CF3D46B9C728F718DD04DF8A57C019A6ED093C7529552BF37DE6726C1DCF| |B97E01767E424CE71AD82D612185D8D043C4742E827B96C8657205EC5E05DF49541| |83D1AE17BB4DD024DE9BF8EFDD78DA2D6DE31F218390EB68B6F047332227DCAD17A| |C97AB135228FAB71533967A7F717F91B7C2F6866AD66D6EA67AD7ED6E83F0E86245| |F2B7D5BD739832FE0C006F995FD895F1BCF41DB03BCE7810570DF22B9442E83DE10| |EF94ECA59D3319E24C3E96EE1CCF48D7219C119FF8F7D0BFE73FFF0FA2F6A1BEEAE| |33C6AA4FF1873C4A2D0C2A20D32C7E082C48625C77D70D4DCBAA3768BA9F8B14B4B| |DB5613DB5639BEA83A695212CD70BCD62AB7EE2A95F53265635B711951CC2F78067| |BAC19379C33FD79DBC730B8D71AEEB5B7ACB7C13265A84C3950A61C2C53BC41F9B7| |8062FF013C81E942| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

It seriously depends on your powersets and build goals. We could start with some "generic good idea" like S/L def at 45% and a list of common Globals and procs that almost every good build tries to shoehorn on. There is actually a thread like that in general discussion right now. But lets get down to brass tacks.... When you build a Brute you do not build "a brute." You build a "Dark/Fire Farm Brute". or a "SS/Invul TF Monster" THose two will have EXTREMELY different needs and therefore, while maybe even sharing some same enhancement sets, might have those sets for different reasons even. Take my "SS/Invul Brute" and "Dark/Invul Brute" Both for Task Forces. Completely different. The SS has enough Recharge to keep Rage up 100% time. Not hard. The Dark has as much Recharge as I could cram on without seriously affecting other build goals. Because the Synergy of Dark Melee and Invulnerability just gets stronger the more Recharge you cram onto it. In my opinion, so thats how I built it. SS/WP will need enough recharge to keep Rage up 100%. After that it might benefit from more, but I would look at pumping other things based on your desires. Definitely throw on all the normal procs and globals. Here is an excerpt from the general discussion by Mashugana: How does this look for a general guide: Start with this and then see where the endurance, recharge, defense, and damage holes might be: Try to softcap S/L at 45% If ranged then try to softcap Ranged Defense at 45% Try to softcap Melee Defense at 45% If you have a lot of toggles then get +Recovery high Get Global Recharge low for long attacks to come up more often (look to IO set bonuses) Useful procs for all characters: Panacea Proc Miracle Proc Numina Proc Perf Shift Proc Perf Shift End Power Transfer End Power Transfer Health Glad Armor +3% Def Steadfast +3% Def Shield Wall +5% Reactive Def Scale Damage Resist 5 LotG if possible Did I miss any of your favorites like Blessing of Zepher or Karma? I also use the Kismet +6% Acc global whenever I can fit it in. Although with Rage that is not as important. but from this generic list you get 1 and 5 and the list of goodies and the rest does not fit well. So much for generic advice lol. I would look at ANY resists you can easily cram on. I love a Willpower Brute but those Alphas can be Brutal. And last, and I HATE to say this, but I think it is true. On a modern 50 Invul is just head and shoulders above Willpower (and I ran Willpower for over a year on live) Because of Incarnates and all the build techniques the Endurance difference is moot. The Healing is not needed as much, and that leaves Armor which Invulnerable does better. I do not want to tell someone just climbed up to 50 they might have chosen a different armor to get to the brass ring, but....it's kind of who I am. So I said it. Opinions do vary. Its just mine....and a few really good builders think that way too. I am a mediocre builder at best. But i do love Smashing things! Best of luck.

Here is my Dark/Fire Farmer. I LOVe Dark. I use it with both Invul and Dark armor on Brutes and Tanks. It was an easy choice for Farming. This is a quirky beast. All My Incarnate Powers are MORE DAMAGE So.....Where does my Endurance come from? It doesnt. It just goes away. Pretty darned quick too! Seriously though,, as I am sue you know both Fire and Dark have an Endurance Recovery PBAoE. This is a high recharge build. So....Just keep pumping up the blue balloon with holes in the bottom and everything will be fine! This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! dark fire brute M1A1: Level 50 Mutation Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(3), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(3), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), TchofDth-Dam%(7) Level 1: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11) Level 2: Blazing Aura -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(15) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(19) Level 6: Healing Flames -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A) Level 8: Siphon Life -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(21), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(21), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25) Level 10: Temperature Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(27), Ksm-ToHit+(27) Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 16: Plasma Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(31), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Obl-%Dam(33) Level 20: Consume -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Obl-%Dam(36) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Soul Drain -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(39), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(40) Level 28: Burn -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(43) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 41: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Dam%(48) Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(50), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(50), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(50) Level 47: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 49: Rise of 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here are Calystix powers. i could not easily find a writeup on the guardians he summons. nost Coralax are s/l (water) and a bit of psi here and there. i am guessing the psi powers are wrecking the bots: Calystix the Shaper Calystix the Shaper Main Article: Calystix the Shaper Calystix the Shaper is the high priest of an ancient cult to the sea-goddess Merulina. He has formed a 'Cult of the Shaper' on Sharkhead Isle in order to free an ancient terror which is trapped beneath the island. Powers PsychicBlast Subdue.png Subdue Ranged, Psionic, Foe Immobilize Subdue deals moderate damage and may leave the targeted foe Immobilized for a brief time. Immobilized foes can not move but can still attack. PsychicBlast PsychicScream.png Psychic Scream (Ranged) Cone, Psionic, Foe -Recharge The howl of Psionic energy resonates in the mind of all foes within its conical area of effect. PsychicBlast TelekineticBlast.png Telekinetic Blast Ranged, Moderate Damage, (Smash/Psionic), Foe Knockback You can use Telekinesis to Blast a targeted foe with the power of your mind. This attack deals Smashing and Psionic damage, and can knock your opponent back. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Moderate PsychicBlast WillDomination.png Will Domination Ranged, Psionic, Foe Sleep This powerful attack is so painful, it usually renders its target inconscious. The victim is asleep, but will awaken if disturbed. PsychicBlast ScrambleThoughts.png Scramble Thoughts (Ranged, Psionic) Foe Disorient Painfully scrambles the synapses of a targeted foe, leaving him dramatically Disoriented for a short duration. Deals a little Psionic Damage. Damage: Minor, Recharge: Slow. Power Missing.png No Melee attacks Calystix doesen´t have any Melee attacks at all Paramilitary DraftArmy.png Summon Coral Guardians Summon Summons Coral Guardians to fight for you. Empathy Resurrect.png Summon Healing Wave Resurrect Healing Wave revives all nearby dead players as well as completely restoring the Health and Endurance of all players.

is it the type of damage he is doing that is leveling your bots? do the "team resist" inspirations armor up your bots?

We're not supposed to talk about this.

I've done that arc many times on various Brutes. Never had an issue. I mean, he is an AV. No pushover. I do not know MMs. Is there a way you can put them in bodyguard mode and summon some temp helpers from P2W, then start slinging envenomed daggers at him or something?

An Invulnerability Brute using SOs is insanely Tanky. One properly i/o'd is (in my opinion) Tankier than most Tanks.

For comparison here is a build I use. Its rowdy fun! This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Super Strength Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Punch -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(3), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(3), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(5), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(5), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(7) Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), GldArm-3defTpProc(11) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15) Level 4: Haymaker -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(23) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(23) Level 8: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(29) Level 10: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34) Level 20: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), Rct-ResDam%(39) Level 24: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 26: Hurl -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(42) Level 28: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 32: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46) Level 35: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(48), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 38: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(50), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 47: Physical Perfection -- RgnTss-Regen+(A) Level 49: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 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And this is why I get "pigeon holed" into only wanting to build certain builds / sets. Because for certain AT/Build/Sets ALL the things just line up. Once you have experienced it you seek it out again, but...oooooh. It is rare. But when you find a build where every set just adds at every bonus you start to slaver and drool, and gibber on the floor.... um. I mean, it is good. You like that.

THis morning I missed the attached build! I just re read it. THis is the exact thing I was trying to create. Thanks Hyperstrike! Thats two of my 9 filled out builds I keep that are your design. Now i need to go shopping and respec!

If you looked closely you may see some familiarity. The build is yours Hyperstrike. Except you posted it on a request I made for a Brute. And I still have the thing unaltered. But I then just sort of reverse crammed it onto the Tank. Which is why things are a bit hinky. So then I tried to solve it....enough said.