That Ninja Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) This was an idea I had back when I played live. I always thought it would expand the concept of "gun user" if the devs added an alternate set of animations reusing the Energy Blast animations with a wrist-mounted gun model appearing in tandem. Although making a new model for wrist-guns will probably be some sort of task, there's a plethora of "point out arms" animations that could be employed that would expand the Assault Rifle concept into slightly more broad use for people who want to make a character like Deadshot, Black Widow, or just a robot/character with internal weapons. EDIT: Just realized that employing this to the Beam Rifle powerset would also add more to it for making power armor/robot/future people characters who don't want to just hold a gun. Edited October 10, 2019 by That Ninja 5
Galaxy Brain Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 Honestly, it would be awesome if various animations could be ported between sets if the timing matched 2
Menelruin Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 I would love this, as well. Make it so you can have a rifle that shoots Energy/Fire/Whatever blast, or that you shoot bullets/beams from your hand. Also, I would love love LOVE if shoulder cannons were an option for beam/assault rifle sets. 1
Safehouse Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 I know this is an older thread but I wanted to bump to show my support. Conceptually speaking, a beam rifle type of power set, but with the powers shooting from his hands, would be absolutely perfect for my main. I’ve settled for energy/energy, but if beam rifle were available with a “hand blast” animation, I would happily reroll in a heartbeat no question. Liberty and Virtue server refugee. Everlasting resident. Main/Planned Characters: Astellus - Kinetic/Energy/Mu Scrapper (Magic) Plasmitar - Radiation/Energy/Flame Blaster (Science) Scionic - Psychic/Atomic/Soul Blaster (Mutation) Safehouse - Street Justice/Energy Aura Scrapper (Magic) Starshear - Energy/Atomic/Force Blaster (Science) Neonstar - Luminous/Luminous Peacebringer (Natural) Faerwald - Gravity/Energy/Psionic Dominator (Science) Fomalhaut - Rad/Rad Sentinel (Science)
Outrider_01 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Radiation eye beams, second choice. Shoots from the hands. "Farming is just more fun in my opinion, beating up hordes of angry cosplayers...." - Coyotedancer
boggo2300 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Outrider_01 said: Radiation eye beams, second choice. Shoots from the hands. I am so glad you said hands there, I was getting worried 1 Mayhem It's my Oeuvre baby!
Outrider_01 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, boggo2300 said: I am so glad you said hands there, I was getting worried The actual animation looks nice when used on a tech suit, colored red. "Farming is just more fun in my opinion, beating up hordes of angry cosplayers...." - Coyotedancer
boggo2300 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Outrider_01 said: The actual animation looks nice when used on a tech suit, colored red. I was way more concerned about coloured brown if I'm honest 😄 Mayhem It's my Oeuvre baby!
Virtual Green Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Major +1 to everything that's been said in this thread. One more suggestion I'd make : have the Beam Rifle stance and animations be available for Assault Rifle. I get that the devs wanted to emulate movie action heroes when designing AR, but it makes little sense for my trained soldier to fire his rifle at the hip, IMHO. At least, give us the option to choose between both stances! 1
Saiyajinzoningen Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) id like a megaman megabuster please Edited January 6, 2020 by Saiyajinzoningen 1 Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative?
gameboy1234 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 10/9/2019 at 11:47 PM, That Ninja said: This was an idea I had back when I played live. I always thought it would expand the concept of "gun user" if the devs added an alternate set of animations reusing the Energy Blast animations with a wrist-mounted gun model appearing in tandem I like this, I've had the same suggestion for Sonic Attack and Sonic Resonance. A wrist mounted option would be great, so would a one handed pistol and a two handed rifle. These latter I think are already in the game, so it shouldn't be too crazy to add. Specifically for Sonic I'd like to see a different sound, I really hate the growling "I scream at them" sound and animation that's in game right now. A rock-and-roll guitar noise was suggested. I'd like to see a musical harp sound, and maybe some sort of electronic retro sci-fi "Buzzzaaaap!" sound. For sonic I'd also like to see some options for holding a musical instrument, but that's getting more art intensive right now.
Safehouse Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Outrider_01 said: Radiation eye beams, second choice. Shoots from the hands. This is a really good example. I’d love to see more options like this across other powersets too. Heck, give assault rifle the option to shoot bullets from your fingertips. Let’s get wild with it 🙂 1 Liberty and Virtue server refugee. Everlasting resident. Main/Planned Characters: Astellus - Kinetic/Energy/Mu Scrapper (Magic) Plasmitar - Radiation/Energy/Flame Blaster (Science) Scionic - Psychic/Atomic/Soul Blaster (Mutation) Safehouse - Street Justice/Energy Aura Scrapper (Magic) Starshear - Energy/Atomic/Force Blaster (Science) Neonstar - Luminous/Luminous Peacebringer (Natural) Faerwald - Gravity/Energy/Psionic Dominator (Science) Fomalhaut - Rad/Rad Sentinel (Science)
Galaxy Brain Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Safehouse said: This is a really good example. I’d love to see more options like this across other powersets too. Heck, give assault rifle the option to shoot bullets from your fingertips. Let’s get wild with it 🙂 Dual finger guns 1 1
Safehouse Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns Pew pew pew 👈👈👈 1 Liberty and Virtue server refugee. Everlasting resident. Main/Planned Characters: Astellus - Kinetic/Energy/Mu Scrapper (Magic) Plasmitar - Radiation/Energy/Flame Blaster (Science) Scionic - Psychic/Atomic/Soul Blaster (Mutation) Safehouse - Street Justice/Energy Aura Scrapper (Magic) Starshear - Energy/Atomic/Force Blaster (Science) Neonstar - Luminous/Luminous Peacebringer (Natural) Faerwald - Gravity/Energy/Psionic Dominator (Science) Fomalhaut - Rad/Rad Sentinel (Science)
gameboy1234 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns Actually I thought it would be selfish for me to ask this, but I'd love to see this as well. 1 1
MTeague Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns Worked well enough in some old movies, at least for robots 🙂 1 1 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold
boggo2300 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns I WOULD SO PLAY Dual finger guns as a set! Mayhem It's my Oeuvre baby!
Haijinx Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns There is a Wild Cards character that uses this. 2
dangeraaron10 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Now this is a change I can get behind! I've been wanting a "Power Armor" powerset, something akin to Ironman for quite some time. Sure, Energy Blast sorta does this but wrist-mounted Beam Rifle attacks sounds like exactly what the doctor ordered on that concept. I'd absolutely use Beam Rifle if we got such animation options.
Galaxy Brain Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Honestly, more recycling animations pls. Use Cranke Kick to shoot fireball? Why not
Lines Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Galaxy Brain said: Dual finger guns You need fingers to do finger guns.
boggo2300 Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 21 hours ago, boggo2300 said: I WOULD SO PLAY Dual finger guns as a set! ESPECIALLY if I could get pew-pew-pew sound effects Mayhem It's my Oeuvre baby!
MTeague Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 It's a somewhat obscure movie, but "Real Men" (1987, Jim Belushi, John Ritter), had a few scenes where one of the character makes a gun with their fingers and yells BANG!.... and the target gets shot. To the original post though, the PPD Hard Suit and PPD Shells do have the wrist mounted firepower already. Admittedly, I've picked up enough to know that not every NPC move / animation is an easy-peasy port to players. Horrific Spagetti Code (with a nice vodka sauce....) FTW. But it might be a decent starting point at least. 1 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold
Safehouse Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 11 hours ago, MTeague said: It's a somewhat obscure movie, but "Real Men" (1987, Jim Belushi, John Ritter), had a few scenes where one of the character makes a gun with their fingers and yells BANG!.... and the target gets shot. To the original post though, the PPD Hard Suit and PPD Shells do have the wrist mounted firepower already. Admittedly, I've picked up enough to know that not every NPC move / animation is an easy-peasy port to players. Horrific Spagetti Code (with a nice vodka sauce....) FTW. But it might be a decent starting point at least. Praetorian Clockworks, similarly, have hand blasters and shoulder cannons for their various attacks (I actually have a post I made earlier this week about an idea for a prae clockwork style plasma blast set) and I really enjoy the aesthetics of their attacks. I agree that it might be good to start by looking into the various factions’ unique animations to see if/how they may be applied to PCs. My illogical, ignorant brain hopes it would be as easy as copy and paste, but logically I know spaghetti code gets in the way often. I think the devs started experimenting with alternate animations near the end of the game’s lifecycle only because they were just starting to untangle the knots in the pasta, but I could be misremembering. 1 Liberty and Virtue server refugee. Everlasting resident. Main/Planned Characters: Astellus - Kinetic/Energy/Mu Scrapper (Magic) Plasmitar - Radiation/Energy/Flame Blaster (Science) Scionic - Psychic/Atomic/Soul Blaster (Mutation) Safehouse - Street Justice/Energy Aura Scrapper (Magic) Starshear - Energy/Atomic/Force Blaster (Science) Neonstar - Luminous/Luminous Peacebringer (Natural) Faerwald - Gravity/Energy/Psionic Dominator (Science) Fomalhaut - Rad/Rad Sentinel (Science)
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