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Hi,

 

I'm trying to understand the main drawbacks of using a willpower tank.

I was told that the aggro management wasn't as good as some other sets but is it really that noticeable?

I have a theoretical build that would be softcapped to all typed and 88% res to s/l with 78hp per second regen (1 enemy) but I would like to know what to watch out for.

Thanks in advance for any responses

 

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The weak aggro aura has been fixed on Tankers and Brutes, so you won't have that problem to worry about.

 

The biggest problem that I've had with my Will/SS Tank has been, believe it or not, a lack of endurance drain resistance. If you're near the softcap on most things then that probably won't be an issue for you.

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     And heavy defense debuffers.  Without DDR (Defense Debuff Resistance) any defense debuffs can get problematic once that first one gets in past your capped defense.  Cimerorans, for example, with all those sword attacks can trigger cascade defense failure fairly easily if they (when) they land the first attack.

 

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No self heal is the biggest drawback, that I have found, but easily mitigated with the massive amount of regen possible or via incarnate (Rebirth Destiny).  Also, defense debuff resistance (DDR) is very low (comparatively, considering other tanking primaries), so without Barrier or the Ageless version that has temp DDR, you can get squishy in things like the ITF.  I remade my WP/Fiery Melee 50 from live and he's a whole lotta fun (many on this forum have seen him in action on Torchbearer for Tanker Tuesdays), he's my best farming tank and powers, nearly effortlessly, through 98% of PVE content.  WP is a very fun set, not as "set it and forget it", like Invulnerability, but very durable.  Also one of the primaries that I use the T9 (well, his name is "Will", so you gotta take "Strength of Will", right?), routinely...or at least when I've got even a single blue skittle in inventory 😆

Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM)  Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank),  Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank)  Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute)  Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) EverlastingMISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank)                                                        Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present

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3 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said:

     And heavy defense debuffers.  Without DDR (Defense Debuff Resistance) any defense debuffs can get problematic once that first one gets in past your capped defense.  Cimerorans, for example, with all those sword attacks can trigger cascade defense failure fairly easily if they (when) they land the first attack.

 

Ha, beat me to it by 1 minute 🙂

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Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM)  Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank),  Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank)  Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute)  Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) EverlastingMISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank)                                                        Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present

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The main problem is that the set is so "Set and forget", that when you DO run into problems (for which you DO have mitigation tools), you forget all about them.

It's not THE toughest set for Tankers.  But it's mix of Resist, Regen and Defense, as well as Enhancement options makes it tough enough for most things.


 

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Offensive Guy: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Prv-Absorb%(5), RgnTss-Regen+(7)
Level 1: Jab -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(11)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(19), GldArm-3defTpProc(21)
Level 4: Haymaker -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(25)
Level 6: Fast Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(29), Pnc-Heal(29)
Level 8: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(31), Ksm-ToHit+(33)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Rise to the Challenge -- PrfZng-Dam%(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(33), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(33), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(34), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(34), Pnc-Heal(34)
Level 14: Quick Recovery -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)
Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18: Heightened Senses -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(37), Hct-Dam%(37)
Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(39), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(40)
Level 26: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(40)
Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), GssSynFr--Build%(42)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 32: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 35: Hurl -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(45)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46), Arm-Dam%(48)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Rchg(48), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Apc-Dam%(50)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A), PrfShf-End%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Mrc-Rcvry+(13)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15), PwrTrns-+Heal(15)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
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Since we're posting builds...😝  With Fiery Melee, this guy does quite a bit of damage, as well:

 

 

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Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM)  Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank),  Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank)  Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute)  Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) EverlastingMISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank)                                                        Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present

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11 hours ago, Omega Force said:

Energy damage.  It's everywhere at endgame, and you need a plan to deal with it.

 

Energy and otherwise, WP covers defense and resist "holes" with absorb and regen...quite efficiently.  The build I just posted can (and has) taken everything but solo ITF, I've thrown at him.

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The bottom line...

 

WP is a great set for those that enjoy a streamlined set that requires no maintenance. It has layered mitigation that performs respectably and predictably. It leans heavily into regeneration to achieve a scalable dependent mitigation curve, which is a strength at low diff and a handicap at high diff. It works well out of the box, but begins to fall off when the diff is cranked up.

 

I've pushed WP to absolute min)max extremes on all ATs and the set is fun but will not be able to keep pace with invuln, stone or even rad.

 

If you don't care about meta, maxing or extremes, WP is great. Avoid foes that debuff Regen, this will dirt nap you. Be careful of cascade failure.

 

In the end, WP is great fun and I love it, but when it's time to ProperTank, WP won't cut the mustard.

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My Willpower / Super Strength tanker is one of my favorite toons. The build I'm using handles 98% of content easily and does respectable damage. When it fails, though, it fails quickly. I think the combination of low defense debuff resistance, Rage crash, and my own lack of skill are the culprits.

 

In my experience, Invulnerability, Shield, and Super Reflexes are all more durable. I haven't played the resist-based sets enough to have an informed opinion.

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Thanks for all the responses, to be honest, I was drunk when I posted and completely forgot about it 😄

I played an inv/ss on live but wanted to try something different.

My build for anyone that was interested without incarnates selected as I like to try and see what stats I can get prior to them.

I also forgot about the tanker sets until after I finished it and I'm not sure how to fit them in without sacrificing.

 

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I actually had an idea for a WP/Ice Tanker, which I've found to be fun and pretty survivable. Tested it on Brainstorm against +4/x8 radios in PI, and it seemed really good against Arachnos, Carnies, and Tsoo. The only times I had an issue was when the debuffs started to roll in, but that's what I have Ageless for to counter. Frozen aura works like footstomp, Frost is great for extra AoE, and I basically used the four attacks from Ice as both single and multi-target chains, which flowed smoothly without gaps. In the process of leveling it now, but will let you all know how it fares in harder content:

 

 

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WP-Ice Tanker Pyre: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Mind Over Body

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (5) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance

Level 1: Frozen Fists

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  • (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  • (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold

Level 2: High Pain Tolerance

  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (15) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (15) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance

Level 4: Frost

  • (A) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (17) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (19) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (19) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 6: Indomitable Will

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 8: Rise to the Challenge

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  • (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 10: Fast Healing

  • (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
  • (27) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge
  • (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
  • (29) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (29) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
  • (31) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 12: Quick Recovery

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 14: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 16: Build Up

  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 18: Heightened Senses

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (34) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (36) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (36) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (36) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge

Level 20: Ice Patch

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 22: Boxing

  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus

Level 24: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance

Level 26: Weave

  • (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  • (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense
  • (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
  • (42) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (42) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime

Level 28: Freezing Touch

  • (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage
  • (42) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb
  • (50) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb

Level 30: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (45) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 35: Char

  • (A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 38: Frozen Aura

  • (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
  • (46) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
  • (50) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 41: Melt Armor

  • (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 44: Tactics

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 47: Super Speed

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 49: Vengeance

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Gauntlet 


Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Celerity - +Stealth
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Healing IO
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (13) Miracle - +Recovery
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 47: Speed Phase 

Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany 
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 50: Portal Jockey 
Level 50: Task Force Commander 
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion 
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On 9/28/2021 at 7:29 AM, PLVRIZR said:

 

Energy and otherwise, WP covers defense and resist "holes" with absorb and regen...quite efficiently.  The build I just posted can (and has) taken everything but solo ITF, I've thrown at him.

There is no absorb in WP, and Praetorian plasma cannons say "Hello, let us tell you about our lord and savior regen debuffs today?"

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2 hours ago, Omega Force said:

There is no absorb in WP, and Praetorian plasma cannons say "Hello, let us tell you about our lord and savior regen debuffs today?"

 

You're right, of course, but I see the AT proc enough, it becomes second nature.

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I'm in the process of leveling a WP/EM Tanker, and am currently at lvl 26. Aggro management has not been an issue at all in team play. What I have noticed in solo play, and what others have already mentioned, is the lack of DDR. Fighting groups of Warriors in Talos radio missions can be dicey once one of their -def attacks lands. I definitely have to keep some purples on me to counteract the cascading defense failure. Another noticeable hole in WP I've noticed is the lack of any native slow resistance. In Councl radio missions, I sometimes get shot multiple times resulting in -recharge debuffs getting stacked on me. I find it very annoying, but then again I've been spoiled by Ice Armor.

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On 9/27/2021 at 4:01 PM, PeregrineFalcon said:

The weak aggro aura has been fixed on Tankers and Brutes, so you won't have that problem to worry about.

 

The biggest problem that I've had with my Will/SS Tank has been, believe it or not, a lack of endurance drain resistance. If you're near the softcap on most things then that probably won't be an issue for you.

 This is exactly correct, IMO.  Willpower tanks have basically Zero endurance issues, once you level past a certain point.  

 

HOWEVER, you also have zero endurance protection.  In practice, what this means is that sappers, Mu mystics, Shockers and like will drain your endurance down to zilch and you will swiftly experience toggle cascade failure and face-planting.

 

I find this to be an issue primarily when playing solo.  If you regularly team with groups that have solid support (kinetic or what have you), it's really not an issue.  When it does happen, I have resurgence on a 2 minute 15 second toggle, so I can just get right back up again.

 

Apart from that, I love Willpower.  Absolutely one of my favorite armor sets!   👍

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2 hours ago, Cancrusher said:

HOWEVER, you also have zero endurance protection.

 

Does anything offer end-drain resistance? We can at least get some DDR from Ageless Radial, and you can go Ageless Core for more recovery, but I can't think of anything at the moment that grants drain resist.

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Just now, BillyMailman said:

I may have missed something, but I believe SR, Shield, WP, and Ice are the only tanker primaries without an end-drain resist. Recovery-drain resist (being entirely separate) is more rare, but still present in a few.

 

I meant as an add-on like DDR from Ageless Radial.

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