Storm Blast

Snarky · April 9, 2023

I'm looking at this set and it appears to have a weaker Nuke than Elec...which is saying something. Gotta ask, when this is on a Sentinel does it actually just damage your own character as it's main effect?

Greycat · April 9, 2023

It's on test. Head to test and see.

Ghost · April 9, 2023

18 minutes ago, Greycat said:

It's on test. Head to test and see.

He tried.

He keeps logging onto test, getting mad and then quitting his own one man team. It’s pretty sad.

BazookaTwo · April 9, 2023

It has a synergy to it, Storm Blast. Once you have Storm Cell running, it will live about two mobs similar to Creepers. It buffs everything. If you stack Storm Cell and Cat 5, it quickly feels like nothing is going to touch you. Yeah the T9 comes on slow, but you can start Storm Cell from a distance, hop in, drop the T9, and hop back to ranged.

On a Storm/Storm/Elec Corruptor the stacking of freezing rain and storm cell (and why not? snow storm too) means everything crawls and flops like a blobfish.

I can't wait to make a blapper with this set as the primary. Tested that too and wow. Nothing can do much by the time you have setup Storm Cell and start swinging.

Edited April 9, 2023 by BazookaTwo

Techwright · April 9, 2023

4 hours ago, BazookaTwo said:

It has a synergy to it, Storm Blast. Once you have Storm Cell running, it will live about two mobs similar to Creepers. It buffs everything. If you stack Storm Cell and Cat 5, it quickly feels like nothing is going to touch you. Yeah the T9 comes on slow, but you can start Storm Cell from a distance, hop in, drop the T9, and hop back to ranged.

On a Storm/Storm/Elec Corruptor the stacking of freezing rain and storm cell (and why not? snow storm too) means everything crawls and flops like a blobfish.

I can't wait to make a blapper with this set as the primary. Tested that too and wow. Nothing can do much by the time you have setup Storm Cell and start swinging.

Sounds like the possibilities of an "All Storm" team just got even more interesting.

Sorry, what is "it will live about two mobs"? Maybe its because I've had less coffee today, but I'm drawing a blank.

Judasace · April 9, 2023

IDK about the nuke, but from reading the descriptions, the stationary, slow build of the powers is going to make it about as useful in the current game as Traps. Good during something like an MSR, Nemesis invasion, or maybe even the final Reichsman fight. Aside from that, by the time this set accomplishes anything, the rest of the team will be at the end of the mission.

Mjolnerd · April 10, 2023

Thinking of it as a "nuke" might not be the way to go. I understand it's a T9 power from set with "blast" in the name and we've kind of been trained to think "blast set last power = big big boom many mobs die right now," but there's no reason that has to be true every time. Overall the whole set feels a little less literally-blasty than most, almost a hybrid blast/control set, and I kind of like that about it -- different sets being, y'know, different, and playing differently in ways other than "this one debuffs this, but that one debuffs that instead" is nice.

Snarky · April 10, 2023

1 hour ago, Mjolnerd said:

Thinking of it as a "nuke" might not be the way to go. I understand it's a T9 power from set with "blast" in the name and we've kind of been trained to think "blast set last power = big big boom many mobs die right now," but there's no reason that has to be true every time. Overall the whole set feels a little less literally-blasty than most, almost a hybrid blast/control set, and I kind of like that about it -- different sets being, y'know, different, and playing differently in ways other than "this one debuffs this, but that one debuffs that instead" is nice.

absolutely. This one weakly waters your enemies corpses while your team races through the mission to the next spawn. Theme baby!

Captain Fabulous · April 10, 2023

1 hour ago, Judasace said:

IDK about the nuke, but from reading the descriptions, the stationary, slow build of the powers is going to make it about as useful in the current game as Traps. Good during something like an MSR, Nemesis invasion, or maybe even the final Reichsman fight. Aside from that, by the time this set accomplishes anything, the rest of the team will be at the end of the mission.

Not every powerset needs to cater to zerg teams. If your idea of a good time is "Tank aggro then nuke" over and over and over again, best to probably skip this one. It's not for you.

Solo or on a normal team Storm/Storm is absolute glorious chaos.

Mjolnerd · April 10, 2023

34 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said:

Not every powerset needs to cater to zerg teams. If your idea of a good time is "Tank aggro then nuke" over and over and over again, best to probably skip this one. It's not for you.

Solo or on a normal team Storm/Storm is absolute glorious chaos.

Agree 100%. "Not for me" is not the same as "bad."

Rigged · April 10, 2023

33 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said:

Not every powerset needs to cater to zerg teams. If your idea of a good time is "Tank aggro then nuke" over and over and over again, best to probably skip this one. It's not for you.

Solo or on a normal team Storm/Storm is absolute glorious chaos.

Which follows: Since this t9 nuke is weaker on zerg teams and better while solo or in normal teams, does the set overall lend effectiveness to the latter situation? I have not tested myself, but from discussion it looks like yes, it does. The Storm Cell mechanic seems designed for a somewhat slower clearing team or solo. Storm Blast looks like it is very good for soloing or small teams.

TheZag · April 10, 2023

Either way if the set is good or bad, now is the time to leave feedback in the beta section. Its much easier to convince the devs of changes before something makes it to the live servers.

Snarky · April 10, 2023

1 hour ago, TheZag said:

Either way if the set is good or bad, now is the time to leave feedback in the beta section. Its much easier to convince the devs of changes before something makes it to the live servers.

Yeah, roflmao. They are committed to this. They are looking for bugs and minor tweaks mebbe. But they are going to roll this out looking 95-100% the way it does right now.

Mjolnerd · April 10, 2023

8 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Yeah, roflmao. They are committed to this. They are looking for bugs and minor tweaks mebbe. But they are going to roll this out looking 95-100% the way it does right now.

Well, they're not going to throw out months of work and start over from scratch solely because Snarky doesn't like it unless you tell them that Snarky doesn't like it.

Maybe ask to speak to a manager?

High_Beam · April 10, 2023

Toki is wise.

BazookaTwo · April 10, 2023

5 hours ago, Techwright said:

Sounds like the possibilities of an "All Storm" team just got even more interesting.

Sorry, what is "it will live about two mobs"? Maybe its because I've had less coffee today, but I'm drawing a blank.

Two mobs, is the time duration of Creepers and Storm Cell, roughly. Long enough to affect two mobs.

MirrorDarkly · April 10, 2023

Okay. So I know this in no way a high water mark for character optimization in this game but my fairly hastily put together Storm/SR sentinel has been happy soloing 8/+1 missions with bosses and AVs turned on and has fought and defeated Nightstar, Bobcat and Neuron solo as AVs. With sets but no incarnate or temporary powers.

Mind you I'm a fairly casual player and didn't plan her out in mids or anything so I'm certainly happy with the sets performance so far. But yeah, its provably not going to be amazing on a fast moving team.

Edit: Also for clarity Storm Blast was my only source of damage. I did not use proced out Dominate to boost it.

Edited April 10, 2023 by MirrorDarkly

Luminara · April 10, 2023

7 hours ago, Snarky said:

But they are going to roll this out looking 95-100% the way it does right now.

They will if you don't test it.

Xiddo · April 10, 2023

New stuff should be exciting, whinging makes it boring, go test it out, bring helpful suggestions, spread the word so others test it out too, it’d be nice to have some other voices bringing stuff to the table.