More APPs on the horizon?

[biostem]

With the various new sets that the Homecoming devs have added, (seismic blast, storm blast, etc), has there been any thought given to adding more Ancillary Power Pools. (APPs)?  I could see something like a storm APP for blasters, which incorporates some of the storm summoning powers, possibly with a "storm armor" toggle, which provides an effect somewhat like steamy mist, or maybe a self-affecting O2 boost with a longer cooldown, etc...

Edited April 21, 2023 by biostem

[FupDup]

More APPs would be neat, but IMO there are tons of existing ones that should be proliferated to other AT's first. That's probably easier too since some of them can be at least partially copypasted. 

[OmegaOne]

I think they could be a valuable addition. Instead of a full powerset a couple of these in an update. There are certainly many thematic "holes" in the offerings to various ATs. For instance, tankers do not have access to Dark, Psi, or Gadget-based APPs for instance.

[Mjolnerd]

Having new powers (or "new powers," anyway) added to the game that are actually useful to existing alts and don't require starting over again from level 1 to use them would actually be pretty nice.

[High_Beam]

Totally agree with this concept.  Spice up existing characters. @OmegaOne's reference to thematic holes is another.  Hell they don't have to even be APPs they could be regular ole power pools.  There was old talk back in the day about gadgets (Tech) and I (and others) have posited grenades in various fashions.

[OmegaOne]

Well there is also the two unfinished Origin Pools - Gadgetry and Utility Belt. Not sure how difficult it would be to finish them off but I would love to see them made available.

 

And yes, there could be all kinds of opportunities for other regular power pools with a cool theme (like how about a melee weapon power pool like sword/mace/axe etc.)

[Scarlet Shocker]

I've always felt that APPs were kind of limiting in one sense - mostly by dint of not giving sufficient choice. It would be great to see more - I'd especially like to see something influenced by gold side and Praetoria to compliment the Arachnos PPPs

[tidge]

The (Homecoming) lowering of the levels for primary/secondary choices has been great for players who want to explore (and min/max!) Patron/Epic power pools; prior to this change, I found myself clustering up secondary power choices versus Epic/Patron versus powers available earlier that I hadn't yet fit into the build... now I find myself with a lot more options... I still have several characters that didn't respec to take certain powers 'earlier' because I am perfectly satisfied with those builds!

 

13 hours ago, biostem said:

With the various new sets that the Homecoming devs have added, (seismic blast, storm blast, etc), has there been any thought given to adding more Ancillary Power Pools. (APPs)?

 

While I don't feel like we need more Epic/Patron, I do think that there are a couple of options (synthesizing what was written by @FupDup and @Scarlet Shocker😞

• "Patron Pools" for power sets used by the (Praetorian) Heroes, paralleling what we have for Red Side

Players get a taste of what Synapse can do with his powers (in the Red Side "Who Will Die?"), and also see what powers Deadlock has access to when he takes his serum (in Eagle Eye's arc)... so I sort of feel that some mechanism for allowing players to pick some variant of "signature powers" could be make viable. I imagine there are a LOT of players who would like to have Penny Yin's Psionic Nexus as a recharge-intensive pet!

• "Epic Pools" that leverage some of the kewler (more useful) temporary powers

There are a handful of "temp" powers that run out (or otherwise have very limited charges) that it would be nice to have available as actual powers. Something to mimic how existing Epic/Patron pools offer what the Ring of Peebles does. Sticking with a Praetorian theme, I still want to be able to have characters that have been partially transmorgrified by the Devouring Earth, so they have access to ("Patron") powers like: Summoning Bees, summoning Eminators, AoE attacks, bio-like armors, etc.

 

[Techwright]

3 hours ago, Scarlet Shocker said:

... It would be great to see more - I'd especially like to see something influenced by gold side and Praetoria to compliment the Arachnos PPPs

Anything that develops an appreciation of gold side would be welcomed.

[Blastit]

Filling in the missing themes for ancillary pools would be very nice, yes. Stalkers could do with some ice and earth APPs just off the top of my head but there are no doubt others.

[JulioThom33_2]

I'd like to second finishing Gadgetry and Utility Belt APPs. There needs to be a Tech-based APP that is as useful as something like Sorcery. I'd even be happy with a tech-reskin/rename of Sorcery. Some of those powers are very useful, but don't fit thematically with Science/Tech based heroes.

 

It's a hole that was never fully filled.

 

[MoonSheep]

less gimmicks with new powers would also be nice. i‘d like a normal powerset without a ton of janky combo builders, special effects etc

[Yomo Kimyata]

52 minutes ago, JulioThom33_2 said:

I'd like to second finishing Gadgetry and Utility Belt APPs. There needs to be a Tech-based APP that is as useful as something like Sorcery. I'd even be happy with a tech-reskin/rename of Sorcery. Some of those powers are very useful, but don't fit thematically with Science/Tech based heroes.

 

It's a hole that was never fully filled.

 

 

How about we cut Sorcery back from being so powerful?  Change recharge on Rune of Protection to 10 minutes.

[JulioThom33_2]

14 minutes ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

 

How about we cut Sorcery back from being so powerful?  Change recharge on Rune of Protection to 10 minutes.

 

I'll leave that type of balancing for the Devs. I'm just saying that a very useful APP, on par with Sorcery, should be available for non-Magic based characters.

 

Pools like Speed and Fighting work for all Archetypes. Sorcery doesn't.

[Yomo Kimyata]

4 minutes ago, JulioThom33_2 said:

Pools like Speed and Fighting work for all Archetypes. Sorcery doesn't.

 

It doesn't?

[TheZag]

Sorcery is the origin pool for magic.  We also have the science and mutation origin pools.  They arent meant to fit the theme of characters from a different origin even though anyone can use them.

 

Gadgetry and utility belt would also be origin pools if they are finished,  not APPs.  Origin pools tend to be stronger than other pool powers but selecting powers from 1 origin pool will lock out the others.

 

APPs are the ones that open up at lvl 35 and PPPs are the villain ones that unlock at 35 after completing the last mission of any patron's first mission arc.

 

I would like to see more APPs.  Starting with plugging the holes that currently exist,  some ATs dont have all the different elemental pools available.  You cant make stone/stone/stone if there is no stone pool, for example.  I also would like to see hero side versions of PPPs get added.  There are plenty of living and deceased heroes that have a unique flavor of abilities that arent represented.  Positron with radiation mastery or Infernal with Hellfire mastery could be possibilities.

 

[JulioThom33_2]

3 hours ago, TheZag said:

...Sorcery is the origin pool for magic.  We also have the science and mutation origin pools.  They arent meant to fit the theme of characters from a different origin even though anyone can use them.

 

Gadgetry and utility belt would also be origin pools if they are finished,  not APPs...

 

 

Thanks for the clarification. If Origin Pool is the proper term, that's what I meant.

[0th Power]

On 5/8/2023 at 11:08 AM, MoonSheep said:

less gimmicks with new powers would also be nice. i‘d like a normal powerset without a ton of janky combo builders, special effects etc

This times eleventy billion

[tidge]

If we are talking Specialized/Origin pools, I humbly submit this suggestion for the "techy" one:

 

I'd like it if the level 20 power (i.e. the one that requires 2 earlier power picks) to be some sort of recharge-intensive pet. I'd simply like to be able to have a power pool where my MMs can dump the various global enhancements to boost henchmen performance so that I can dedicate henchmen slots to actually enhancing the active attributes of the henchmen.

[Mariposa]

I think a lot of this often and I want ancillary powersets expanded with new sets and options. They add variety and new concepts.

Also I want to see the remaining origin pools too!