Darkir

Well, what do you want to do with this character? You can focus on procs and ST dmg with ice/time (farsight let's you really focus on procs and global recharge). I really like time, but I don't take a lot of powers (distortion field, time stop, and maybe one more) because either they aren't useful or they have such long cast times that I dislike them. When considering an ice/time corruptor, I also think you have to consider if you'd rather make a defender. Or you can focus on aoe dmg and incidental team buffs (fulcrum shift is for you, it affecting the team is just a bonus)

Pain is excellent on a team where you can make one person godly with painbringer and increase everyone's resistances while decreasing the enemies. You also get a passive healing aura which is quite nice on quick moving teams. You can easily softcap your own s/l res, but it is quite difficult to softcap your defenses (you give up a lot of recharge). I think it is better on a defender.

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My current build I think. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Brute Primary Power Set: Savage Melee Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Savage Strike -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(13) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(5), GldArm-3defTpProc(7) Level 2: Maiming Slash -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(39) Level 4: Inexhaustible -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(11), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(13), Pnc-Heal(42), Pnc-Heal/+End(42), PrfShf-End%(47) Level 6: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(45) Level 8: Vicious Slash -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dam%(40) Level 10: Adaptation Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39) Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(45) Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(19), Prv-Absorb%(23) Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(27), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Obl-%Dam(43) Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(45) Level 28: DNA Siphon -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(43) Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 32: Savage Leap -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dam%(33), Obl-%Dam(33), Erd-%Dam(33), PrfZng-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34) Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(37) Level 38: Electrifying Fences -- PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(A), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(46), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(46), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), PstBls-Dam%(48) Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 47: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A) Level 49: Parasitic Aura -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(42) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), 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General PSA: when you want to get my attention on a thread of mine, please quote me so I know. I only check the corruptor forums daily and I don't a notification if someone simply responds to a thread of mine. I originally posted this and then it just sat here for 2 months with no replies and I just figured no one was interested. In terms of your build, you seem to be under the impression that the softcap is 40%, when it is 45%. Now, in terrms of your build and trying to save money, I have changed your build a bit. We can split our ATO to get +5% s/l def and 15% acc (which you actually needed more of) twice. We lose 10% global recharge, but that is a perfectly good price to pay for the bonuses. One power transfer is worth about 3 hp/sec, but it can't proc more than once at the same time, so the more you add, the less hp/sec you get on return. What this means for /bio is that a single +5 health IO in boundless energy is worth more hp/sec than one power transfer and it will never be worth adding more than one power transfer to a build. We also get more endurance recovery from boundless energy than we do from stamina, so we throw our +end enhancement there instead of stamina. Next, we change assassin's frenzy slotting to make sure we get the least amount of recharge in there so that it still procs well because we want to get our hide proc as much as possible and we add some more procs to really boost the dmg. We add a +5 dmg/end enhancement instead of another proc because there are times we may want to start with it from hide and so the extra +dmg is needed and it is also a pretty end heavy power to use in our ST rotation. We don't want to add any recharge into savage leap because it is already at an 89% chance to proc without any recharge (3.5 ppm), but if we add any recharge it starts going down quickly. We also add a -20% res proc because we want to do this combination at the start of most mob fights build up>ball lightning>savage leap>assassin's frenzy>rending flurry and if the procs I added in both ball lightning and savage leap land the mob will be at -32% resistance (the proc in ball lightning only has a 44% chance to land) when that 5 blood charged rending flurry lands and the rending flurry can crit too. We don't care about the extra 7.5% speed boost we get from kinetic combat 5 slotted and the knockdown proc won't land much in those powers so we take that out to use elsewhere. And yadda yadda yadda, here's the build: This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Stalker Primary Power Set: Savage Melee Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Savage Strike -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Knock%(17), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(34) Level 1: Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23), Rct-ResDam%(42), Ksm-ToHit+(46) Level 2: Maiming Slash -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 4: Boundless Energy -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(5), Heal-I(9) Level 6: Assassin's Frenzy -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(7), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Mk'Bit-Dam%(29), TchofDth-Dam%(33) Level 8: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(23) Level 10: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(15) Level 12: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(13) Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 16: Adaptation Level 18: Rending Flurry -- SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAssMar-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprAssMar-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprAssMar-Rchg/Rchg Build Up(27) Level 20: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(42), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Prv-Heal/Rchg(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(43), Prv-Absorb%(43) Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(37) Level 28: DNA Siphon -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 32: Savage Leap -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), Erd-%Dam(34), Arm-Dam%(37), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(40) Level 35: Genetic Corruption -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 38: Zapp -- StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(39), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(39), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), StnoftheM-Dam%(40), Dcm-Build%(40) Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(A), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Dam(47), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(47), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(48), Ann-ResDeb%(48) Level 44: Build Up -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--Build%(50) Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(49) Level 49: Parasitic Aura -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(31), Mrc-Rcvry+(46) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(17) 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I almost always pick pyrronic because the cast time/dps is so much better. I only play SM on a stalker so I can just leap to the high threat mobs as needed.

I hate hate hate repositioning too, you lose dps time and it does always hit the ones you want. I only bother with cones on hover builds and tanks (but I pretty much don't play tanks).

Ummmmm what? Mobs don't get an inherent +tohit bonus until +6 lvls to you. "Any attack with more Accuracy bonuses than penalties will have a guaranteed chance of hitting greater than the well-publicized 5% minimum. To be exact, it'll be 5% × AccMods." https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics They do get a lvl based acc modifier to their chance to land a hit, but even at +4 that modifier is only 1.4 so it would be 5%x1.4=7% chance to hit, but this is the LSRF (lvl 45-50) and he has a tier 3 alpha so all the mobs are only +3 so its really 5%x1.3=6.5% chance to hit. This of course is only for the minions because mobs also get an acc mod based on there rank: minions 1.0, lieutenants 1.15, bosses, elite bosses, and snipers 1.30, and AVs/GMs 1.50. So the floor for mobs to hit you based on rank and acc lvl mods with softcapped defenses at +4 without the alpha is: softcap so its (5%)x(lvl based acc mod)x(rank based acc mod) minions: 7% lieutenants: 8.05% bosses, elite bosses, and snipers: 9.1% AVs/GMs: 10.5% and with softcapped defenses at +4 with the alpha (a simpler way to say this is just +3): minions: 6.5% lieutenants: 7.475% bosses, elite bosses, and snipers: 8.45% AVs/GMs: 9.75% I have absolutely no idea where you got 10% from. Are you thinking that he is faceplanting while fighting hordes of AVs? Are you just oversimplifying in response to my own simplification (oversimplification?) of just saying 5% because I didn't want to get into all this? Not wanting to go into all this is why most of us just say 5% and stop worrying about it.

One of the biggest problems with the poison fire pairing is that it completely lacks a heal. You rely on only being hit 5% of the time coupled with good resistances to keep you alive and some damage debuffs, but that's it. If defense debuffs come into play, this is a prime example of a defense debuff cascade death (hits have a 5% chance to hit you, but then you get hit with one defense debuffs and all of a sudden it's a 10% chance to get hit, but now another debuff got through because it was 10% and now it's 15% and all of a sudden you are taking 3x the damage you normally take and then....nevermind you're already face planted). Especially when you couple this with the higher lvl harder hitting mobs it causes major problems for the build and pairing. This is why I always recommend pairing water blast (for the dehydrate heal) with sets that don't have a self heal, it adds one more layer of survivability that you absolutely need in harder content. One of the things you can do to help with this is to take either barrier or the ageless radial (defense debuff resistance) destiny powers with you when you know you will be going against harder mobs.

What do you mean his does more dmg than mine? First, turn off scourge, you aren't going to crit every time or at all in the beginning. Also, go to view>view damage by animation time to see their dps and not just their activation damage (bitter freeze ray looks like a great power until you consider that 2.5 second cast time) The best ST attack chain his can run is freeze ray>bitter ice blast>bitter freeze ray=127.18 dps The best attack chain I can run is freeze ray>bitter ice blast>ice bolt=174.6d dps (need to divide by the time bitter ice blast is up which is 3.28 seconds and not the cast time for all those powers which is 3.07) So, that ST attack chain is almost 1.5x the dmg of his. On top of that I have 90% more global recharge (170+ total) in my build, meaning that my aim is up every 28 seconds, while his is up every 32 seconds. My blizzard is up every 45 seconds and his is up every 66 seconds. I also feel the resistances are very necessary when you consider that you cannot heal yourself at all. Sure, his build has power build up, but its only up for 12.5 seconds every 90 seconds, which just isn't worth the extra energy resistance that you get from charged armor but if you want it, its easily remedied: (we don't take dark mastery on a hover character because you just don't have the melee or s/l defenses to use a pbaoe power like soul drain) The things I sacrificed in this build were dark mastery(can't be in melee range, which is necessary for soul drain to work), melee defenses, and procs (damage yes, but damage that is required to forgo set bonuses like recharge and defense). I think the build I made here will have more recharge, more damage, more survivability, and more uptime of powers. P.S. I apologize if I sound arrogant or condescending, that is not my meaning at all. I have simply made and played many many many many corruptors at this point and I am continually making builds for people here on the forums and so I have lots of experience with both builds and corruptors. I am also very tired because I have not slept.

Would you be interested in a HOVERruptor?

The problem is that it has almost 2.5x the cast time of bitter ice blast, but only does 2x the dmg if its proc'd out and bitter ice blast and freeze ray are not. When we look at our dps and chains, it just isn't a good dps power, proc'd or not compared to other options in ice. If you proc everything out similarly then the dps discrepancy becomes very noticeable. Bitter ice blast still has a 76% chance to proc a 3.5 ppm proc without any recharge in it, freeze ray has 64%, and even ice blast has 56% chance. Yes, bitter freeze ray has the maximum chance to proc, but it doesn't do enough base dmg to make up for it. Let me show you what I'm talking about in a build, make sure you change the view to "show damage per animation." All three powers are similarly proc'd, but freeze ray and bitter ice blast do twice the dps as bitter freeze ray. Hell, even ice blast almost meets bitter freeze rays dps if you put two purples in it. On archetypes that have lower base damages (controllers and defenders) it makes more sense to utilize procs in powers like bitter freeze ray make more sense to utilize. Most importantly, proc dmg never scourges, hurting your overall dps even more (not really by that much considering how effective/ineffective scourging can be, but it is something to consider). If you add in powers like aim or soul drain on a corruptor, then these dps discrepancies become even more apparent. Most importantly though, its just not really worth the overall survivability cost (the cost is lost set bonuses and slots in other powers) on a corruptor to do things like this, unless you have a secondary that is really prepared for it (say hello to "/time"). (ok I had to check a defender, it doesn't really make sense there either from a dps only perspective) defender example: The one thing that bitter freeze ray is really good at is holding bosses with a proc and being a set mule in my opinion.

Oh, one last thing: you are a fire corruptor, embrace melee and bring death with inferno and fireball.

Entangling Aura and all holds have one of the most efficient set bonuses in the game for defense+recharge by 4 slotting Basilisk's Gaze. You get 7.5% recharge AND 2.5% ranged defense, that's fantastic. On top of that its a toggle that holds and can take a +2 hold proc as well, giving you a passive form of defense. You know what sucks? Spore cloud, a 3 second cast time power that enemies can easily run out of because we don't have slows or holds. If you depend on it for your ranged defenses it will let you down as enemies run out of it and you get pummeled. If you depend on it for melee defense it will work well, but it becomes such a slog to cast it for 3 seconds before every fight. I really really hate how it slows down my pew pew 😞 Instead of chasing recharge, I would rather bulk up my defense and resists while adding soul drain to the mix for more dmg and survivability. Overgrowth+soul drain (7 enemies)+aim >>>>>inferno=a 1857 dmg nuke (according to mids) with a radius of 25 and a -20% res proc on all the mobs affected by soul drain. This build can do that every 35-40 seconds (ageless). Anyway, I would use this instead. You lose recharge, but you gain softcapped melee and ranged defenses, maxed s/l resists, tons more dmg with soul drain, and a small passive (toggle based) chance to hold bosses with entangling aura.

Ok, finally ice/cold is a perfect candidate for both a scourging corruptor and a hover build. We take frost breath here because even though I hate cones normally, they essentially become PBAOEs while hovering. I think this would probably the most fun and most survivable overall.

Normal build with soul drain, you could probably still do +1-2x8 with this. I tend to think that soul drain is almost essential for corruptors. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Corruptor Primary Power Set: Ice Blast Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Ice Bolt -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3) Level 1: Infrigidate -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A) Level 2: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 4: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(5), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(5), Rct-ResDam%(11), Ksm-ToHit+(46) Level 6: Aim -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(7), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(7), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(9), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(9), GssSynFr--Build%(11) Level 8: Freeze Ray -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(40), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13) Level 12: Ice Storm -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(15) Level 14: Boxing -- AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(A), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(15), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(39), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(39), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(40) Level 16: Tough -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(17), GldArm-RechEnd(17), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(19), GldArm-ResDam(19), GldArm-3defTpProc(27) Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(37) Level 20: Arctic Fog -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21), UnbGrd-ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 22: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(23), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RedFrt-Def(36), RedFrt-EndRdx(36) Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 26: Bitter Freeze Ray -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(27), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(29), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29) Level 28: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(31) Level 32: Blizzard -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(33), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Rgn-Knock%(34) Level 35: Sleet -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 38: Heat Loss -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(42), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-%Dam(43) Level 44: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Max HP%(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46) Level 47: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(50), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(50) Level 49: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Scourge Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(50) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1350;668;1336;HEX;| |78DA65945B53525114C7F73E1C32102452BCA0A0A078435114F5D119A51A13CAA90| |FC03070C4331987019CA9B7EC4BF4E4ADE93A5356AF354DD967E8F2605FA1CB4C97| |E966B438FF1532E319981FE7BFD77FEDB5D7DE9BE495B863F7CCFAAC90AEF9D574A| |9949A378AC5B542D9285A93E99C9EB1087A1AE8EBAD0DA42EA4F3392D1B59C868A9| |39F294FD8743736BCBCB917963359B8A1B97F57CBAAC1B79E15A328CD548424B67B| |56269452FD8CDF78B054DCB3ACD9FA7F5DC4A59CFE71CFF030BF4E23E55D0339178| |BA782995A449B4E2D5762AA387BE638AE0A7A2883E5588A82A9401E620F854D2B03| |46384D82343B32A9E499648931E69C6B9696D16C4A99696AA6613AA87B9683163EC| |5FC0D1030AF3A96282D25991C76ABDA59863C76E33EF80C7EF32EF81F6FBE0A4827| |656BD0D1BC2D4029BE0C016731B1CDE01476F824132DA50ABB4858559A38319A3BC| |8D18531A43E881A31F6C1A0225F99DBC56E722EA694A80FD49E63970E03C68218F0| |B1EAB2B8A3E9C883127C193E3CC31D03B014E510A377BDD0FA0F91F82BDBB60DF23| |E663E613F005F99AD9DBCCFBD2C2FBD2F21531ADDFC0F6EFCC1FA04A357BD8EBB16| |39F5B1B41BF030C38C1DE26A68BE3C8DBC6E7A68DE79BA6757460CF2C1DAF15F30C| |78DF805D6F99EFC09764E9E433D6C97BD34B397DD0A46F1F7DF5BF076708DDBC27D| |DD5C341F13D31E614731A0CCCC0B347F1419E23C873BC222D649EEE8A0CB1D6CFBC| |466D1994E69875F037720CFD611E30FF82C315A6402FD70961AE2FCC7D1FE1BE8F7| |0BF477EF2FDA836CE6713D7E935C2F3453670F6C636995BCC6D30BAC39C458EE764| |1BE7B58DF31DED526BF79D3EF48805B576BB2B8923A34B6ADD3D37950F765264BDF| |2E950913280B9A36749A0FF918F47A23FD72B37D0A15FAD04AEE11F5A01CBD9| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

This my attempt at giving you a heal....its not great, but it'll keep you alive. Other options to follow.

Savage and bio are fantastic on brutes. I assume they are also good on tanks and scrappers. The dot does not crit for anyone anymore 😞 I think stalkers get the best version of savage melee, but brutes get the best version of bio armor (the inherent taunt auras mixed with the toxic dot+fury).

If you are looking for self sufficiency then I strongly recommend you build a water/cold corruptor instead. If you want ice for theme or any other reason, I'll look at this when I get home and help you out.

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation Corruptor Primary Power Set: Psychic Blast Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Subdue -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45) Level 1: Transfusion -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(15), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), NmnCnv-Heal(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17) Level 2: Psionic Lance -- StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(A), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(3), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(3), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), StnoftheM-Dam%(13) Level 4: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39), Rct-ResDam%(40), Ksm-ToHit+(40) Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7) Level 8: Telekinetic Blast -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(11), FrcFdb-Rechg%(11) Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A) Level 12: Will Domination -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(25) Level 14: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A) Level 16: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(47), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(47), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48) Level 18: Psionic Tornado -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(36), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(49) Level 20: Speed Boost -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(40), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43) Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(27), GldArm-RechEnd(27), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(29), GldArm-ResDam(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(31) Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(39) Level 26: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A) Level 28: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(29) Level 30: Rune of Protection -- RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(A), RctArm-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctArm-ResDam(33) Level 32: Psychic Wail -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(36) Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(39) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A) Level 41: Transference -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(45), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(45), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(46), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(46), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(46) Level 44: Repel -- EndRdx-I(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(48), FrcFdb-Rechg%(49) Level 47: Increase Density -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Scourge Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- 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You can achieve something similar to this on a DP/Time or a storm/water with either a defender or a corruptor, but as you said, you need to to be constantly engaged with mobs (groups of them). (Of course, you know this, just letting others know that there are some other possibilities than tank/brute for hard stacking FF procs)

Unfortunately, I would say that SM/Bio outclasses Elec/Shield in almost everyway. With a proc'd out savage leap the AoE potential for SM is just better than even electrics fantastic AoE set, because directly after using SM into the middle of a pack you can AS>Rending flurry boosting the radius of rending flurry to 15, which is far superior to thunderstrike's 7 radius. Shield also doesn't have a single heal to help it live, just lots of defense and DDR. I mean, you can shield charge into a pack then use lightning rod and thunderstrike, but I just don't think it will be as good as savage leap > rending flurry because of the cooldowns. The proc damage on savage leap is so good that you use it at point blank range for ST dmg and -res debuffs and its up every 10-15 seconds, compared to shield charge and lightning rod's 20-30 seconds (even with all the FF recharge procs you are likely to get). Then your ST attack chain will also be better on SM over Elec. Shield does have grant cover (the best team buff a stalker has access too!!!) and for that shield charge I made a SM/Shield, but even with all the teleporting around, it just isn't as survivable because of a lack of healing. Edit: if you are farming on a stalker or in situations where mobs are tightly packed, elec's AoE is phenomenal, but in normal play I really think savage leap takes the cake. PLUS ITS SO FUN!

Ok, I think I've got all 3 of you covered with this new version I just worked up. With Hemorrhage being nerfed into the ground on stalkers, we don't really need to take it anymore (its still good dmg from hide, but its not amazeballs now). So, instead our ST dps chain becomes a lot quicker and because of this change we still want a big hitter to follow AS, so we change to Mu, losing melt armor, but gaining a snipe attack. We also exchange fireball for ball lightning, which is a minor dps loss, but really not worth worrying about. We still want to be useful in a group though and so we pick up genetic corruption to lower everything's dmg and put minions to sleep (and we pray that it sometimes, just sometimes, messing up my AS hide proc is me being crazy as it is supposed to suppress with hide). Now, zapp also has a 24% chance of proccing a build up, so if the stars align we can cap our dmg for maybe two seconds (^_^). This makes justifying our assault power pickup hard to justify even for the team, so we drop it for super speed. We also move the slots that were in hemorrhage to boundless energy to place panacea (putting numinas in health now) for a net HP regen increase of about 9 hp/s and a small endurance rate gain. Finally, we gain an "oh, shit" button in parasitic aura. Overall, I think this is a vast improvement and it only cost us a small dps loss by losing hemorrhage (and a little team buffs with the loss of melt armor). Build: In terms of soloing cimorrea misions with my previous build, make sure you get your accolades, don't be afraid to pop inspirations if you get into trouble, and always focus on the those healer motherfuckers first (savage leap to those assholes). There is no definite rotation with my build as most of the tools you have are reactive, so make sure you keep ablative carapace up, use your dna siphon when you need it or to get regen from dead bodies before leaping to the next group, and try to only fight 2 bosses at a time. With the above build soloing these missions should be easier as you have more regen and the added -dmg aura from genetic corruption, but I imagine it can still get dicey. Soloing cimmorrea at +4x8 requires you to stay on your toes.

Oh, it was the stalker you were talking about. Let me login to him again and see what I'm doing.

I just noticed this reply, this is a place holder reply until I get to my computer and can look at the build.