plainguy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I was looking to run an ITF or something similar with players who have petless or semi petless ( usually last pet ) masterminds. I have a bunch but run solo on them not to hear any slack. All are defense capped to some degree and have incarnates. All can run 3/8 setting. I think Many of the petless masterminds would be whips as that is unique set. But just getting a feel on this if its even doable. Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I have a whip/storm MM, but only at level 27 at the moment. I'd be willing to give it a try, but I'll need to gain some levels before I could manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathulfr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 It's been discussed a few times here over the past few months: I'm sure you can find some of the previous posts on the subject. I think a couple of them even included a Mid's build or two. @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Troy00 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Why would someone want to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Because say, you just want to use the bird attacks out of the animal mastery sets because of your character conception - for example. 1 1 If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blayzemaster Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 3:16 PM, UltraAlt said: Because say, you just want to use the bird attacks out of the animal mastery sets because of your character conception - for example. Tbf, this might be better done as a Savage Assault Dominator, but then you lose the ability to ever have the various pets at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Talion Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 10:59 PM, 00Troy00 said: Why would someone want to do this? Why do people solo TFs at +4/x8, or turn off inspirations, or run on SOs only? To get the feeling of challenge and accomplishment back, that the game itself has lost long ago. 1 Drama, Horror and Mad Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 5:45 AM, blayzemaster said: Tbf, this might be better done as a Savage Assault Dominator, but then you lose the ability to ever have the various pets at all. But if I do that, I lose the bird attack powers - which was my point in the post. If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blayzemaster Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 14 hours ago, UltraAlt said: But if I do that, I lose the bird attack powers - which was my point in the post. You actually keep the bird attacks. Unkindness (Ravens) is at level 10 (although the animation is a bit different), Call Hawk at 35 (which is a bit late, and then has a 14 second recharge). Not exactly the same, but I thought it might be helpful to point out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbre2006 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Masterminds have a base hp of 803 and low damage. Is the whip really that appealing to people where they would gimp themselves for three attacks that hardly does any damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 totally "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, mbre2006 said: Masterminds have a base hp of 803 and low damage. Is the whip really that appealing to people where they would gimp themselves for three attacks that hardly does any damage? Yes. I now have a whip/rad MM at 38. Cuz masterminds suck but I need at least 1 of every AT fully T4ed/Enhanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopeninja Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I made a petless Demon/Time MM. It isn't horrible. I built for +Def, +HP and +Dam. It doesn't die, but takes a hot minute to kill things. Fun experiment, but not going to replace my Blasters, Brutes or Fort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainguy Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Amazing how people get annoyed and express their concept for the idea. Funny Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgamer69 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) I have a Pain Domination MM, respecced her for the whip animations, still leveling her (36 ATM). Would really like a whip-based power set, the whip powers I already have look awesome, and I'd love to have a full set of them. I find demons to be too fragile and they don't scale against mobs at +4, they just flail ineffectually. So I use just the whip, magic subset for ranged attacks, defence and flight and when I really need a hench-thing, I call the demon prince. He at least looks impressive. Edited June 24, 2020 by Ozgamer69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbre2006 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 3:43 AM, Bill Z Bubba said: Yes. I now have a whip/rad MM at 38. Cuz masterminds suck but I need at least 1 of every AT fully T4ed/Enhanced. I almost wanna laugh, but the pain of disappointment subsides harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 5:45 AM, blayzemaster said: Tbf, this might be better done as a Savage Assault Dominator, but then you lose the ability to ever have the various pets at all. Wow, yeah, I see. I thematically have problems with which control set to pick, but I didn't even realize that they had the bird attacks in that set. Thanks for the info. If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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