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There's an interesting thread in General Discussions where people are going to the Atlas kiosk and showing the number of villains killed. Now, we all know that good sales requires a lot of alts, so this is a bit harder. But most of us have one or two primaries. Here are my two.

 

I have to admit, I thought the numbers would be a LOT higher given how many millions of clicks and buckets of influence have been involved. 

 

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That thread got me thinking as well.  I'm gonna hold off on flexing for the nonce, but wanted to give a reference level.  This is the character I used for my 24-hour billion inf challenge:

 

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EDIT:  This character was entirely self-contained, started from zero, and played at double XP so that essentially all inf came from the AH.  I was surprised at two things. 

 

First, it seemed like I had made and sold a hell of a lot more than 700 IOs.  I would have guessed at least twice that.  That goes to prove that I may tend to exaggerate things in my mind sometimes!

 

Second, my net profit per IO at about 2mm per was, frankly, a lot higher than I expected.  Everything that I made was priced to sell within hours, if not minutes, so I expected it to be closer to 1mm.  My real marketing alts have higher profit targets generally, but then again, they aren't working against the clock.

 

I wish it would track how many converters I used.

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Yeah, but what that kiosk doesn't show is the inf! That's the metric by which any ebil marketer is measured, isn't it? 

I vendor salvage mostly. I just let 100's of inf blow away in the wind. 

It's the millions I chase. 

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11 hours ago, Ukase said:

I just let 100's of inf blow away in the wind. 

It's the millions I chase. 

I call that "pound wise and penny foolish" and I strongly endorse that thinking!

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Here are a few of mine. I don't stick to one...

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22 hours ago, TheCentralElement said:

To be fair I only really use like 2 characters to market on, so numbers inflated over people who spread it out over many alts.

Even at the low end of assuming you are primarily selling common IO's, 45,000 sold still breaks double-digit billion INF values. I will say that puts an interesting target into view too: knowing what is primarily (75% or greater) being sold to put perspective on the net earnings. I don't think any of us should actually declare that though, just noting the speculation of what it could be is intriguing. The alternative measure I math'd out was an average assumption of 4 million per enhancement and that number, even if I assume 45% of it was "cost of doing business" still broke triple-digit billions.

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6 hours ago, Sir Myshkin said:

Even at the low end of assuming you are primarily selling common IO's, 45,000 sold still breaks double-digit billion INF values. I will say that puts an interesting target into view too: knowing what is primarily (75% or greater) being sold to put perspective on the net earnings. I don't think any of us should actually declare that though, just noting the speculation of what it could be is intriguing. The alternative measure I math'd out was an average assumption of 4 million per enhancement and that number, even if I assume 45% of it was "cost of doing business" still broke triple-digit billions.

Yeah, I love looking at these because there are a lot of assumptions, but it's interesting to ballpark what other people are doing.  Admittedly, that's based on my personal experience and patterns which may be more or less efficient or profitable than other people's experience.

 

I'll post this one here, since it used a strategy that I've mainly abandoned.  Old Guard primarily followed one strategy:  buy Titanium Coating recipes at level 41; craft them; convert once by Resist Damage to get either an Aegis or an Unbreakable Guard; if necessary convert within set to get either Resist, Resist/Endurance, or Resist/Endurance/Recharge.  Usually 50-100 at a time.  This was very profitable and high volume for a long time, and it may be again, but he's currently retired except for some bottom feeding flipping.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

Yeah, I love looking at these because there are a lot of assumptions, but it's interesting to ballpark what other people are doing.  Admittedly, that's based on my personal experience and patterns which may be more or less efficient or profitable than other people's experience.

 

I'll post this one here, since it used a strategy that I've mainly abandoned.  Old Guard primarily followed one strategy:  buy Titanium Coating recipes at level 41; craft them; convert once by Resist Damage to get either an Aegis or an Unbreakable Guard; if necessary convert within set to get either Resist, Resist/Endurance, or Resist/Endurance/Recharge.  Usually 50-100 at a time.  This was very profitable and high volume for a long time, and it may be again, but he's currently retired except for some bottom feeding flipping.

 

 

Aha.  You were the one I was competing against for those recipes.  Should have known...

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Most of my enhancements were pack openings, though a bunch of them were from crafting common IOs to get the Field Crafter accolade, and later the Fabricator badge.  Much of the salvage is indirectly from pack openings, crafting rare salvage 100-200 at a time from Brain Storm Ideas and selling what I didn't need for around 500k each.

 

Most of the inspirations were EoEs left over from Hami raids (I'd usually have 10-20 left over from a given night), some sold as high as 15k, lately selling for no more than 100.  But I did make a little profit selling Ambrosia the last time the Woodsman Trial was the WST.

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11 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

I'll post this one here, since it used a strategy that I've mainly abandoned.

Something I find interesting is the variety of approaches that exist to flipping in the market. There's some specific 'secret' choices that people find and and use, but I know there are very few that likely know every "sweet spot" on the conversion wheel. I know I discovered one very early on that had (and still has) very little/no traffic, but I found it a bit tedious to amass volume of INF from something that had a somewhat small--but consistent--gain. I also know it's a shallow well, so I don't ever say specifically what it is because it can't handle volume.

 

For some a 200-500k profit per unit is enough when talking about mass volumes (100+ transactions), others may not fully do the math and miss that. Back on Retail I used to focus on Pangean Soils primarily, among a couple other items. I did the math on what I needed to do to make 200k clearance from purchase to sell that didn't upturn the market, or result in a lack of movement. I have an excel sheet somewhere still that has the daily bids/sales and accounts for market fees so I could track the trends and see profit margins. It wasn't like I was making a ton per day, but it was consistent (and in Retail's Market, consistency was key). The whole process is so much less of a headache here on Homecoming than it ever was back then!

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On 8/4/2020 at 8:54 PM, Sir Myshkin said:

The whole process is so much less of a headache here on Homecoming than it ever was back then!


This is the part that matters most.


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So apparently this also tracks how many times you've been on top of the Atlas Statue, which is nice because that is where I moved my market character after getting all the day job badges. 

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