VV Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: Talking about brutes in a Tank forum. ONE CINEMA SIN! *DING!*😉 Honestly, I've never understood the appeal of a Brute. I've tried a few. I mean, if you want to do DPS, play a Scrapper, if you want to tank, play a Tanker. If you want to both poorly, play a Brute? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, VV said: Honestly, I've never understood the appeal of a Brute. I've tried a few. I mean, if you want to do DPS, play a Scrapper, if you want to tank, play a Tanker. If you want to both poorly, play a Brute? Ah HA! I see an attempt to draw people into a discussion on Brutes! ONE CINEMA SIN! *DING!* 1 1 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VV Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: Ah HA! I see an attempt to draw people into a discussion on Brutes! ONE CINEMA SIN! *DING!* Curses! Foiled again! *twirls mustache menacingly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 19 hours ago, VV said: Honestly, I've never understood the appeal of a Brute. I've tried a few. I mean, if you want to do DPS, play a Scrapper, if you want to tank, play a Tanker. If you want to both poorly, play a Brute? Since there weren't tanks in CoV, it was the only equivalent, red-side. Today, with Homecoming, IO sets and ATO sets, there's not much point, since you can make a lot of scrapper secondaries tank-ish and a lot of tank secondaries devastatingly effective...unless you want to create a fire farming toon, where brutes are the undisputed kings. Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VV Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 hours ago, PLVRIZR said: Since there weren't tanks in CoV, it was the only equivalent, red-side. Oh yeah, I meant nowadays. Back on Live it totally made sense. Although, as I understand it, MM's were actually supposed to be the red-side tank-equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayboH Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 They are better at that nowadays due to the summoning/training changes we just got. Flint Eastwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 12:41 PM, VV said: I love Fiery/Fiery/Pyre for a few reasons. First, because FIRE, duh. Fire Sword Circle is one of my two favorite powers in the game (the other being Wormhole). It is just SO secksy! Fiery Aura is MUCH better than most people give it credit for. Unlike many sets, it has no huge gaping holes (hello 65% Psi Res), except slows, and you'll see why those hardly matter. It is totally immune to Sappers and other End suckers. It has both HP and End management tools, good ones. And it does a decent job of adding to your DPS. Heck, I even like RotP. I know many people think it is a waste of a T9, but it allows me to take way more chances, to push her limits. I really want to like Fire Armor but the pulsing action of Blazing Aura makes my eyes hurt. I wish it had a Hot Feet alternate animation. Or one of the fire-body animations from the Blaster's Fire secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, ninja surprise said: I really want to like Fire Armor but the pulsing action of Blazing Aura makes my eyes hurt. I wish it had a Hot Feet alternate animation. Or one of the fire-body animations from the Blaster's Fire secondary. And I feel the same about spines. The animations and sounds are just too annoying/painful to be able to enjoy the toon... 1 Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, PLVRIZR said: And I feel the same about spines. The animations and sounds are just too annoying/painful to be able to enjoy the toon... Agreed. But with Spines I used the "Silence specific game sounds" tweak to make Quills quiet, Maybe some of the other attacks too. Fire Melee has some attacks with a screaming sound effect I had to disable to make my Rad Armor/Fire Melee tank playable. It's a lot of fun now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hew Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Fire/dark/foldspace+cj/elecfences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VV Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, ninja surprise said: I really want to like Fire Armor but the pulsing action of Blazing Aura makes my eyes hurt. I wish it had a Hot Feet alternate animation. Or one of the fire-body animations from the Blaster's Fire secondary. Yeah, that bugs the heck out of me too. Fortunately, in combat there is so much going on, I don't notice it. But the second we get out of the mission, I switch it off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheadrocket Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Ice/ss is a beast!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax E Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 4:25 PM, Xandyr said: If you could only play ONE tank, what would it be and why? I've been doing it for quite awhile til I rolled a 2nd one. But I would stick with my main Fiery Aura/Dark Melee Tanker. He's just too fun to play anything else. But I wanted to play an Ice/Spines, so I rolled that. But let's get back to gloating about my main. He can farm, TF, do trials and even tho some enemies are just silly to go up against, I won't back down from them. I know my limits but I'll keep trying and have too much fun with him. I rarely farm now, but when someone needs a tank, I won't hesitate to hop on him and be the meat shield. I just like the animations of Dark Melee and his backstory has sentimental value to me. I actually play this toon in homage to my brother. So that's good enough for me to keep playing him. 😄 3 2 @Tax E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warboss Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Tax_E said: I've been doing it for quite awhile til I rolled a 2nd one. But I would stick with my main Fiery Aura/Dark Melee Tanker. He's just too fun to play anything else. But I wanted to play an Ice/Spines, so I rolled that. But let's get back to gloating about my main. He can farm, TF, do trials and even tho some enemies are just silly to go up against, I won't back down from them. I know my limits but I'll keep trying and have too much fun with him. I rarely farm now, but when someone needs a tank, I won't hesitate to hop on him and be the meat shield. I just like the animations of Dark Melee and his backstory has sentimental value to me. I actually play this toon in homage to my brother. So that's good enough for me to keep playing him. 😄 And this really is the bottom line on why to play a toon/Tank. Glad you enjoy it so much Tax. 2 1 Nothing warms your opponent like Fiery Melee. Tanker Tuesday and Tanker Tuesday Tour Info: 1st Tuesday-Excelsior 2nd Tuesday-Torchbearer 3rd Tuesday- Everlasting 4th Tuesday- Indomitable Special weekend run for Reunion/Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ston Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Shield/EM You never die and get to constantly see orange numbers that are over 1000. Pretty decent AoE dmg as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardship Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 12:25 AM, Bill Z Bubba said: Soooo, this dark/stone tank... She ain't gonna win no awards for damage output, but for aggro control and all around actual tanking, she's the best I got. Between all the aoes, soft controls and fold space, she's really amazing. Do you have a build you could post? I'm looking at a Dark/Stone and would love to have a reference build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Hardship said: Do you have a build you could post? I'm looking at a Dark/Stone and would love to have a reference build. Not until the pod shows up with my desk sometime next week. Why yes, I AM having gaming withdrawal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 5:45 PM, VV said: Honestly, I've never understood the appeal of a Brute. I've tried a few. I mean, if you want to do DPS, play a Scrapper, if you want to tank, play a Tanker. If you want to both poorly, play a Brute? I rolled one to try out Energy Armor on something other than a scrapper (even though I never rolled one of those, either...🤭). Not bad but, much like Dark Armor, I'm not a big fan of any powers that completely obscure the toon. It's pretty tanky, though. Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Nim Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) My ice/spines. Locks aggro down hard. roughly 60% smashing def base + energy absorption when i hit the mobs. never runs out of end. Almost never dies (RNG still gets you sometimes). solid regen as a the second layer. Perma hoarfrost. My opinion/tactic to max out ice tanks....they want to be played fast....push the pace to stack EA. eff hibernate forever. Dances through content. Edited August 6, 2021 by Android Nim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardship Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Not until the pod shows up with my desk sometime next week. Why yes, I AM having gaming withdrawal! Sorry for the withdrawls, I would be jonesin' for CoH if my rig was in transit as well. Hopefully it all arrives soon and you can get back to it. If you think about it when it does arrive, I'd still be grateful for a reference build for the Dark / Stone tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayboH Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Always liked my SR/Ice tanker. Took the confuse interface and the healing destiny along with the melee hybrid just in case. Overkill really, as ice melee has a lot of mitigation as it is. Edited August 11, 2021 by JayboH Flint Eastwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Having taken a break and started playing again just recently I did what I do nowadays which is start a new character of a favored combo. So I started a Fire/Martial Arts, and then went redside since I barely touched it. Redside has a lot more debuffs flying around than blue so deaths kept happening (also, perhaps not crank up to x8 right at level 22, maybe?). But I kept looking at it and thinking how the deaths could all be placed at the feet of a lack of an early Build-up. Being able to burst down enemies, but also be able to overcome -tohit early level BS is primordial. So I dusted my all time favorite: Fire/Ice. And it is good. Ice Patch complements Fire Armor's squishyness and where I soloed at x1 until 18 with the Martial Arts (because no AoE until 18-20) I cranked up to x4 at level 4 because I had Frost. Early (level 16) BU allowed to smash through early BS and the burst of BU + Frost + Burn gives a Brute a run for their money for early level demi-god-ness. Edited August 12, 2021 by Sovera 1 2 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderIV Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Sovera said: Having taken a break and started playing again just recently I did what I do nowadays which is start a new character of a favored combo. So I started a Fire/Martial Arts, and then went redside since I barely touched it. Redside has a lot more debuffs flying around than blue so deaths kept happening (also, perhaps not crank up to x8 right at level 22, maybe?). But I kept looking at it and thinking how the deaths could all be placed at the feet of an early Build-up- Being able to burst down enemies, but also be able to overcome -tohit early level BS is primordial. So I dusted my all time favorite: Fire/Ice. And it is good. Ice Patch complements Fire Armor's squishyness and where I soloed at x1 until 18 with the Martial Arts (because no AoE until 18-20) I cranked up to x4 at level 2 because I had Frost. Early (level 16) BU allowed to smash through early BS and the burst of BU + Frost + Burn gives a Brute a run for their money for early level demi-god-ness. I’ve been taking a break myself Sov, but reading this… you’re re-ignited my passion to get in there with my Fire/Ice Tanker (no pun intended)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, StriderIV said: I’ve been taking a break myself Sov, but reading this… you’re re-ignited my passion to get in there with my Fire/Ice Tanker (no pun intended)! I started a Brute previously because, y'know, change things a bit, and dammit, they are demi gods under level 14-15. Just pew pew and two shot enemies. But around 18-20 their damage falls back in line and I was jonesing for Burn (which on a Brute would be at level 26). So I started over. You put all prestige enhancements in Frost and watch all those procs go off. Then make sure to keep a row of greens, row of purples and etc for emergencies, but keep a row just to gobble inspirations as they drop and it's pretty similar to a Brute as damage ramps up the more enemies we fight 😄 1 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 10:24 PM, Hardship said: Do you have a build you could post? I'm looking at a Dark/Stone and would love to have a reference build. Here ya go. Know it's very late. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1341;663;1326;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135114C6EF74A602A59542A194F7B3B4B430823BDF3182264A1312D| |06D33E2581BCAB49976212B43141F5B4D74A3A24B5DB8F515FD337C2F7DAC401335| |3E12530FF37D220993B4BF7BBF7BCE3DAF99CCD989E083234B0794163C54B0CAE5E| |CACE5CCDBAE3F63E5F2734A9EC0F18593AE55B01CC7AA916D1BCEB313F669DB29DB| |E684E5CE670FBA0B4537C6938C5DB06D73A652746CAC5570BA582C9853B655CA3BB| |9266F332B07A5A25BB12AF9A213F0A499926D9F0A79CBC3F9DC998AD846264BF939| |73D2B1DDDC623663952BB6BB1893247AE4F7B04EFEB4F50CAB7E75D3506ADC50BDB| |7C8DB60DF0A7987BC0B0E0436F9BED03D2DFA128CBD225F83DD6FC0DEB7E02389AB| |C1D7D0BE416BFE4EFEE45DBF407327F8587C74F8E83A7D82F469FA41D2F789D8FA6| |1EBF34765D165A8402B188C815199440DEFABF9A33CADB645F3FC6B8FE19EC05730| |21B6EBAD125B55F7CEE76971A9BF9EF5D75F404F0697C1C44570F81279194C5D019| |FCA6521AF01553DB45DF7626F6F20C360B809EC97D80D88A335A495E71F26872487| |469CA9C632F24A8A16615E91F3D052CBE4A23062A8D173A8737489A46F427C5B586| |7CB3D689AC46FA5D65A9547E9A2B4B1736D9C443B27D1CE4974731286D876D0B623| |8C689D11B219EC66D79F4957BA68DBF5DEE7553FF281FC08EEF8043E17DB1E56DED| |38E6EA424FB7E56DEBF0BD90FEC26F7907BC1C17DE41AEE4B8B6F9CBEF104CE8692| |E430996297D2E46F70454A4DA2435A92931926EF87944AF34D4C5F85FDC80DD0DC8| |F37312E3D32D961B3037DD3A34A8D41D3C758DF581FC9BBC7FFC53236BEC46AA7A1| |F854D7B732ADA92DCAB4417351344F590D6C7C8F54D6B6289FFF2BBA7654160943F| |94E6072BE3E4E7B15FCB2D996551BD7C06DD74976E12FB394CFBF| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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