The TANKIEST Tank Possible

[00Troy00]

If I genuinely didn't care about DPS and wanted to make the most agro-grabbing, damage soaking, "hit me with your best short m***********!," possible, what would I make?

 

[Bionic_Flea]

Off the top of my head: Stone/Dark melee.  Capped resists, softcapped defense, impressive regen, extra -tohit, and a heal (two if you put Power Transfer heal proc in Dark Consumption).

[Psyonico]

While Stone/Dark is certainly a survivability beast, if your want aggro grabbing to the max then Ice or Bio armor paired with Spines or Rad melee for extra AOE grabbing attention.  Ice/bio both have 2 taunt auras and spines/rad both have an additional toggle power.

[Infinitum]

13 hours ago, 00Troy00 said:

If I genuinely didn't care about DPS and wanted to make the most agro-grabbing, damage soaking, "hit me with your best short m***********!," possible, what would I make?

 

 

This one. I came up with it for the LOL of it all

 

Ultimate 01 - Tanker - Invulnerability - Martial Arts.mxd

[Linea]

SR rates 13, but is so difficult to drive at that level that you'll fail 12 out of 13 times.

SD rates 12, is moderately difficult to drive at that level, but is unforgiving of errors.

Inv and Granite rate 10, and are very easy to drive, and very forgivable of errors.

/Ena Brute rates 9, and is moderately difficult to drive, but is unforgiving of errors.

 

 

[PLVRIZR]

13 minutes ago, Infinitum said:

 

This one. I came up with it for the LOL of it all

 

Ultimate 01 - Tanker - Invulnerability - Martial Arts.mxd 5.04 kB · 1 download

 

That's just sick. 😆

 

Never have taken Stealth on a tanker but using it to mule Def is brilliant.

[Infinitum]

21 minutes ago, PLVRIZR said:

 

That's just sick. 😆

 

Never have taken Stealth on a tanker but using it to mule Def is brilliant.

 

It is an abomination really. A beautiful abomination that will keep you warm at night and never leave your side....   lol

[00Troy00]

1 hour ago, Infinitum said:

 

This one. I came up with it for the LOL of it all

 

Ultimate 01 - Tanker - Invulnerability - Martial Arts.mxd 5.04 kB · 7 downloads

Thanks. I'll definitely work on this just so I can have something that won't die when I'm partaking of a tasty adult beverage.

[00Troy00]

1 hour ago, PLVRIZR said:

 

That's just sick. 😆

 

Never have taken Stealth on a tanker but using it to mule Def is brilliant.

Question: can SS be substituted without losing anything, or is MA simply the best choice in terms of slotting options?

[ZemX]

8 minutes ago, 00Troy00 said:

Question: can SS be substituted without losing anything, or is MA simply the best choice in terms of slotting options?

 

Storm Kick is +10% def(all) on a Tanker, which is probably why it was chosen for an absurd survival build.

[Infinitum]

4 minutes ago, ZemX said:

 

Storm Kick is +10% def(all) on a Tanker, which is probably why it was chosen for an absurd survival build.

 

Yep.  Haha

[00Troy00]

That actually makes sense.

[Bill Z Bubba]

6 hours ago, Linea said:

SR rates 13, but is so difficult to drive at that level that you'll fail 12 out of 13 times.

SD rates 12, is moderately difficult to drive at that level, but is unforgiving of errors.

Inv and Granite rate 10, and are very easy to drive, and very forgivable of errors.

/Ena Brute rates 9, and is moderately difficult to drive, but is unforgiving of errors.

 

I'm bein bad. I'm not supposed to post anything until@Luminaraoutpaces my post count, but I have to ask:

 

Would you please describe in detail what you mean in regards to driving difficulty? I'm not disagreeing at all, but I think a lot of folks, including myself, would greatly enjoy reading about this in much higher detail.

[Luminara]

Just now, Bill Z Bubba said:

I'm not supposed to post anything until@Luminaraoutpaces my post count, but I have to ask:

 

We'll both die of old age before that happens.

 

I'll own your ass on rep in no time flat, though.  STEP IT UP!

[Slithershot]

39 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

I'm bein bad. I'm not supposed to post anything until@Luminaraoutpaces my post count, but I have to ask:

 

Would you please describe in detail what you mean in regards to driving difficulty? I'm not disagreeing at all, but I think a lot of folks, including myself, would greatly enjoy reading about this in much higher detail.

Yeah. I'm not sure I understand that comment either.

I've never found SR or shield "hard to drive" unless you're diving face first into 801.6+ solo without a plan. But at that point EVERYTHING is hard to drive. Some just spin in place till they explode. Ironically, that's probably how I'd rate survivability at the very top end anyway. Though I think I'd personally switch shield and SR. 

 

.../ena brute on the other hand. You gotta be able to drive a stick shift, bring your own stick, shift gears, and pray that you don't fuck up and blow up your engine doing any of those one things. Aka what @Linea does before morning coffee.  But if you can do all that it can be tied at number 1 😛

Edited August 24, 2022 by Pizzamurai

[Erratic1]

7 hours ago, Infinitum said:

 

This one. I came up with it for the LOL of it all

 

Ultimate 01 - Tanker - Invulnerability - Martial Arts.mxd 5.04 kB · 17 downloads

 

Any way to work in Soul Mastery/Darkest Night? Dropping incoming damage and to-hit would seem like another bump.

[Neiska]

7 hours ago, Infinitum said:

 

This one. I came up with it for the LOL of it all

Ultimate 01 - Tanker - Invulnerability - Martial Arts.mxd 5.04 kB · 17 downloads

 

Build looks unfinished, and I wince imagining having to sidekick that one down. 😆But impressive numbers nontheless.

[Tsuko]

Tankers can have strong single target DPS, top aoe and being extremly resistant solo and immortal in team :

 

My 2 fav tankers of all time are :

 

Rad Armor / SuperStrenght

Shield Defence / dark or energy.

[Spaghetti Betty]

This thread made me want to take a crack at making an absurdly tanky Rad/MA. Also Hard Mode ready with infinite +tohit.

 

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

immortal booger: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Storm Kick -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(29)
Level 4: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(45)
Level 6: Fallout Shelter -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(7), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7), UnbGrd-ResDam(9), Ags-Psi/Status(9), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 8: Radiation Therapy -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(13), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Prv-Heal(29), Prv-Heal/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Warrior's Provocation -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), SphIns-%ToHit(33), AnlWkn-%ToHit(34)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15)
Level 16: Crane Kick -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(48)
Level 18: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(42), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(43), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(43)
Level 22: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg(23), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(25), Prv-Heal(27)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Ground Zero -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(39)
Level 28: Focus Chi -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40)
Level 30: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(31), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(31), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(37)
Level 38: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Darkest Night -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Gamma Boost -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(13), PrfShf-End%(17)
Level 18: Double Jump 
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
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[Infinitum]

1 hour ago, Neiska said:

 

Build looks unfinished, and I wince imagining having to sidekick that one down. 😆But impressive numbers nontheless.

 

It is. I got to that point and was like...

 

I didn't think it was possible to softcap typed and positional on an invul.

 

I was afraid to finish it at that point. 😂

[Linea]

4 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Would you please describe in detail what you mean in regards to driving difficulty? I'm not disagreeing at all, but I think a lot of folks, including myself, would greatly enjoy reading about this in much higher detail.

Pretend the character is a Mech, and you're the pilot.   I trip over my own feet 12 out of 13 times when I'm driving an SR model Mech.   On the other hand, I'm a top 1% driver of the EnA Model Mech.   Some guys drive dune buggies, some guys drive Formula 1.  That Formula 1 driver might must end upside down in a creek when you put him in a dune buggy in the mountains.

 

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unless you're diving face first into 801.6+ solo without a plan.

@Pizzamurai I was driving that particular SR into 801.D (difficulty 13).  It was absolutely beautiful on test #13 ... and we are not going to discuss the first 12 test runs.

 

Edited August 25, 2022 by Linea

[Unclemarty]

11 hours ago, ZemX said:

 

Storm Kick is +10% def(all) on a Tanker, which is probably why it was chosen for an absurd survival build.

Maybe dark melee is an competitive alternative to MA? All of dark’s attacks have -tohit which works out to be equivalent or greater than +10 def, especially when multiple attacks are stacked. 
 

Touch of fear alone is something like -10tohit in a large aoe.

 

Dark also offers a heal and better +to hit coverage.

[ZemX]

7 hours ago, Unclemarty said:

Touch of fear alone is something like -10tohit in a large aoe.

 

The toHit debuff is only on the main target, unfortunately.  Also, if we're even bothering to worry about survival, we have to be talking about at least +3 level mobs.  Against those, the debuffs are cut to about 65% of their normal magnitude while any buffs like +def are full strength no matter what.  Still, you can easily stack up more than 10% -toHit on at least a single target and that might be a big deal if it's an EB or AV.  MA's +def isn't stackable.

 

7 hours ago, Unclemarty said:

Dark also offers a heal and better +to hit coverage.

 

This is probably the bigger deal than the -toHit.  While Invuln has Dull Pain, it's on a relatively long timer so Siphon is great at patching up what little gets through.

[Infinitum]

7 hours ago, Unclemarty said:

Maybe dark melee is an competitive alternative to MA? All of dark’s attacks have -tohit which works out to be equivalent or greater than +10 def, especially when multiple attacks are stacked. 
 

Touch of fear alone is something like -10tohit in a large aoe.

 

Dark also offers a heal and better +to hit coverage.

 

The problem with it (even the MA gimmick) comes from - needing to land the hits to gain those benefits.  Normal content it isn't an issue, but may stumble on 4 star hitting as many necessary to retain those benefits and also heal which also relies on hitting the mobs.

Edited August 25, 2022 by Infinitum

[Gobbledigook]

Invuln/Staff could be very tanky also. Invuln provides some +to hit for staff. Staff gives +resists and melee defence in guarded spin. Just build for more ranged defence and less melee defence.