quit another task force....

[Seed22]

14 hours ago, Snarky said:

It is polite to mention if you altering the difficulty when advertising a TF.

Depending on the perspective. I mean, while yeah this is nice to do, it's a cultural dissonance thing possibly?

 

I wouldn't assume everyone shares the same view of "polite", Snarky. Remember, different strokes for different folks.

[Xiddo]

20 minutes ago, Seed22 said:

Teams can be...interesting on Excel.

This is exactly why I love the carnage of Excel. There is two particular accounts, I won't name them but I've never seen them on the forums, who to their credit do a lot of team running and forming. But they INSIST on taking the alpha regardless of their sets/AT/level. Feel free to take the alpha on your empathy defender my friend, I get a veng boost.

[catsi563]

Snarky ill be on tonight sometime around 8-9is est if you want to run a manti on ive got pcs who can run it on Torch Ever Indom and excel let me know and ill run you one

[lemming]

I like to usually set expectations before starting the TF.  For the most part unless I say +X, it's a +0, and will note speed, though like with Manticorp, it depends on the team setup.

I've bumped difficulty up or down depending on first missions too on some TFs.

When joining, I like knowing what to expect, though sometimes depends on what I'm playing.

[Ironblade]

16 hours ago, Snarky said:

When i join a PUG TF that is advertised as a Manticore, or Synapse, or Posi I do assume it is +0.

Running at +0 is too boring except when you're really low level.

I run Positron and Synapse at +0.  Penny Yin and onward, I run at +1 so we don't fall asleep.  I do not communicate this because most task forces at +1 are EASY MODE.  To me, +0 and +1 are default settings.

[Excraft]

2 hours ago, Snarky said:

Nope.  I am wrong a lot.

 

That's true.  You're wrong on this topic for sure since you're partly to blame for your own predicament.  You (not the team leader) made an assumption on what other people think, how other players communicate and you got burned for not taking the time to chat.  You didn't take a few seconds before starting the TF to communicate with your fellow team members, ask questions or let others know what you were after.  That's 100% on you.

 

This isn't excusing the team leader at all.  Of course they could've communicated better too.  Communication goes both ways though.  Since your thread title is "Quit Another TF", sounds like you've had issues joining teams before and maybe you need to ask yourself what you can do better to communicate what you're after to other people.  Maybe that'll help make your experience more enjoyable for you and you'll abandon less teams. 

 

17 hours ago, biostem said:

It all goes back to communication - are they running the TF for the merits?  For a badge?  As progress toward an accolade?  For the XP?  To get WST credit?  If they don't say, and you don't ask, it's not entirely on the fault of the one advertising said TF/SF...

 

^ Spot on.

Edited February 2, 2023 by Excraft

[brasilgringo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/

[Snarky]

3 hours ago, Ironblade said:

Running at +0 is too boring except when you're really low level.

I run Positron and Synapse at +0.  Penny Yin and onward, I run at +1 so we don't fall asleep.  I do not communicate this because most task forces at +1 are EASY MODE.  To me, +0 and +1 are default settings.

Ironblade I enjoy your company but that would grind my gears lol

[Snarky]

3 hours ago, Excraft said:

 

That's true.  You're wrong on this topic for sure since you're partly to blame for your own predicament.  You (not the team leader) made an assumption on what other people think, how other players communicate and you got burned for not taking the time to chat.  You didn't take a few seconds before starting the TF to communicate with your fellow team members, ask questions or let others know what you were after.  That's 100% on you.

 

This isn't excusing the team leader at all.  Of course they could've communicated better too.  Communication goes both ways though.  Since your thread title is "Quit Another TF", sounds like you've had issues joining teams before and maybe you need to ask yourself what you can do better to communicate what you're after to other people.  Maybe that'll help make your experience more enjoyable for you and you'll abandon less teams. 

 

 

^ Spot on.

Well I may be partly to blame for not doing an in depth interview of the person settings things up

 

Thankfully I found an easy button solution! (You can just quit these things….👍)

[Ghost]

See, now you’re just looking for reasons to quit TFs so you can come on here and thump your chest.

 

Advertising a TF does not mean it’s set to +0, just like it does not mean it’s a speed run.  You should have asked the leader before it started.  
You didn’t.  Why?  Because then you couldn’t come on here and brag about quitting another TF.

 

[Frunobulax]

New players to HC: +1 is a perfectly reasonable setting.

 

Please do not be deterred from using settings that may run the risk of possibly creating a situation in which a monster fights back in some small way.

 

And don't be afraid to filter cretins and miscreants with the /ignore command either, today's ridiculous tantrum can end up preventing tomorrows joyless carry.

 

 

 

[Snarky]

5 hours ago, Ghost said:

See, now you’re just looking for reasons to quit TFs so you can come on here and thump your chest.

 

Advertising a TF does not mean it’s set to +0, just like it does not mean it’s a speed run.  You should have asked the leader before it started.  
You didn’t.  Why?  Because then you couldn’t come on here and brag about quitting another TF.

 

they're so adorable when they are trying to be formula tv show detectives.

 

I honestly do not need any reason to start a post here.  seriously.  I have two threads going about spam.  one was not enough.

 

advertising something without stating it is altered does indeed imply it is unaltered.  for instance if you bought coffee and discovered it had something in it, that you did not request, that would be unexpected.  the implication, with no communication, is that it is black coffee.  

 

as has been joked about upthread there is no reason to believe someone will stay the entire task force.  it is implied.  we expect it in CoH.  but no one asked me if i would.  according to your logic the leader should have.

[DoctorHugh]

As similar issues appear to have happened to you multiple times, I'd say purely from a practical, time-savings aspect, maybe it's best to reply to action invites with something like "I'll join if it's +0" rather than just "Sure I'll join".

 

That said, you're free to waste your (and others) time any way you like. It's a game, after all... we're not here to earn efficiency ratings.

[Mjolnerd]

There's a saying, normally it's used in reference to customer service but I think it applies here too:

 

If you have a bad experience everywhere you go, the common thread in all those experiences is you.

[GastlyGibus]

You seem to have problems with every PUG you join.

I'm starting to think the problem isn't the PUGs.

Edited February 3, 2023 by GastlyGibus

[Carnifax]

When did "+0 if not stated" become a thing? I've never assumed that, but I do TFs on Réunion and typically with the same folk so I expect the pre-start debate instead.

[Mjolnerd]

16 minutes ago, Carnifax said:

When did "+0 if not stated" become a thing?

 

I don't think it is a thing. Sometimes leaders don't know what level/difficulty they're going to set the TF at until they see who they've got -- levels, ATs, Incarnate stuff, do we have a healer, do we have a tank, buffs, debuffs, controls, what's damage output likely to be. Lots to consider. Sometimes they even like to ask the team to provide their own input.

 

Like I said upthread, broad expectations i.e, "will this be a speed run or a normal one?" should probably be in the LFG post (and "normal" should be assumed unless the post says otherwise, because that's why we have words like "normal" in the first place), but expecting everyone who forms a TF to determine and declare all the minutiae ahead of time is just being obstinate. And acting like that's what people are arguing for is also a classic strawman.

 

Ultimately, if you've got deal-breakers and they didn't mention them one way or another, it's up to you to ask about them. Or to form your own damn team.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Mjolnerd

[Luminara]

41 minutes ago, GastlyGibus said:

You seem to have problems with every PUG you join.

I'm starting to think the problem isn't the PUGs.

 

If @Snarky made a post about every pick-up group he joined, it would make the recent spam attack appear laconic.  He's only giving us the highlights, not chapter and verse.

[Snarky]

2 minutes ago, Luminara said:

 

If @Snarky made a post about every pick-up group he joined, it would make the recent spam attack appear laconic.  He's only giving us the highlights, not chapter and verse.

Too true. These people seriously misjudge how much i game

[Xiddo]

I've pug'd with Snarky a couple of times now. As a forum user I like the dance of death... "Am I going to end up in a post?" - adds a bit of spice 😉 We did a VERY bad respect trial which I 100% expected to see on here.

PUGS are fun. You roll with the punches. The quit button is there for a reason though. I think its ok to leave as long as you explain the situation to the leader, blind quitting I'm a little less forgiving of. A kill all +0 Manti and a +1 are gonna be different enough times where I could see myself feeling like my nose was being put out of joint (although I don't know if I'd quit). It sounds like maybe there was a miscommunication on all fronts.
What I would say is: let's not get too aggy with each other. Do it in the Arena. 

[Marshal_General]

On 2/1/2023 at 9:27 PM, Luminara said:

 

Polite.  Like Po, but less... healthy.

Maybe it's Po, but with a third less calories.

[Wyldkard]

On 2/1/2023 at 8:00 PM, Snarky said:

I send a question in team "Are we running at +1"

Leader "Yeah"

Me "Was that in the ad?"

Leader "Never said it was speed"

 

Now see.  To me there are various conversations that could have happened here.  But that particular response can (to me) be boiled down to "My team, my rules, I own you for the rest of this task force."  

 

 

I think the hilarious part is that you wrote the leader/TF off as unacceptable because you sent him a mildly snarky poke and he sent you back a mildly snarky reply.

 

Clearly, your snark is worse than your fight.

[Seed22]

3 hours ago, Snarky said:

Too true. These people seriously misjudge how much i game

But like...it's the SAME chapter over and over and....

 

I get teaming can be rough, but at this point I've never even experienced HALF of what you have. I'm interested, what times to do you get on? And why is this happening so often? Doesn't seem natural, if ya ask me.

 

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Seed22

[lemming]

Heh.  I advertised a kill most +4 ITF yesterday.  I knew my tank could handle the incoming, though holding agro can get dicey.

 

I should have dropped it to +2 after the first mission, but did drop it to +3 after the second.    Not enough DPS and not enough mitigation.

We had to restart the last mission at +0 to finish, but we only lost one member while doing that and credit to the players that stuck around for two hours and 121 deaths. 😛

 

May try another one tonight, but making sure to bring a couple DPS units.

[Luminara]

2 hours ago, Marshal_General said:

Maybe it's Po, but with a third less calories.

 

That's polish.