Murcielago Dark/Shield Build

Murcielago · May 9, 2019

How do you feel about taking Spring Attack as a filler until you get Shield Charge?

I had spring attack a while back and it was awesome, it was great to use immediately after SC.

Andferne · May 10, 2019

What is the recharge number needed to obtain perma hasten? I've gotten my build to soft cap defense with 82.5% recharge before hasten is activated.

Murcielago · May 10, 2019

What is the recharge number needed to obtain perma hasten? I've gotten my build to soft cap defense with 82.5% recharge before hasten is activated.

I think that's the % you need for perma hasten with three slots.

Murcielago · May 13, 2019

Finally hit 35 and just go shield charge and I cannot stop mowing everything down. Fully saturated Soul Drain + AAO + SC = dead mob

Andferne · May 13, 2019

Yes it is amazing how this set up sky rockets once you get shield charge.

Murcielago · May 14, 2019

Updated cheap-o build. I'm using merit rewards and ae tickets to buy the unique IOs so that's bringing the overall INF cost way down. Rare salvage is expensive :(. I picked up superspeed and hasten and added steadfast protection back because I forgot to include it so that brings this build to 39% def which isn't too bad. I am not sure how I'll hit the soft-cap without set bonuses.

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Murcielago · May 14, 2019

Here is my Rev - of my set io build. It's expensive but it's not Purple/AO expensive. This will serve as my intermediate build until I can get the INF to fund it.

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eetorres76 · May 14, 2019

I recognize that build anywhere, Santorican. Good to see you're still around, man.

Is this for real? Did you actually identify a fellow player from back in the day by their build? Because, if so, that's kind of amazing!

eetorres76 · May 14, 2019

As for IO's once you get a good farm toon (spines/Fire) it becomes very easy to max out / IO builds and just generate influence/resources in general. There are all kinds of new shortcuts to generate rare stuff by simply AE farming (emp merits, ATO packs, raw influence gain with xp off, etc). I think it took me 4 days since starting up to get a PVP IO / Purpled out / +5 / Catalyzed / Accolades / etc blaster for PvP.

Thank you for bringing this up. I have been wanted to create a character that was simply just for farming inf and resources for my other characters. Could you elaborate on what you use (spines/Fire) brute or scrapper? And if your up for it, would you be willing to post a build?

Rokkeb · May 15, 2019

I know this is scrapper forum but will shield/dm work well for a tanker as well? primarily group play.

Looking for something that can easily soak some alphas.

Murcielago · May 15, 2019

I know this is scrapper forum but will shield/dm work well for a tanker as well? primarily group play.

Looking for something that can easily soak some alphas.

Yes, a shield/dark tank does well. It's not as defensive as some other primaries like Stone or WP but it does well.

lokpyrite · May 16, 2019

Anyone care to post this build in the "plain " for those that haven't yet downloaded a builder.?

hejtmane · May 16, 2019

Is this a good build for soloing? Shield has some powers that seem to work much better on teams.

Shield built out correctly is lit and if you IO it to the gills you can do some stupid stuff fun. I ran a Fire/sd toon and ran my solo missions on +4/x8 I soloed AV's on a regular bases. Now that we started over I made my shield into a dm/sd the reason/ The only reason I did not when shield intially came out was I already came already had two dm/ scrappers so i went fire. Siphon Life for the win

Murcielago · May 17, 2019

Anyone care to post this build in the "plain " for those that haven't yet downloaded a builder.?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962

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Murcielago: Level 50 Natural Scrapper

Primary Power Set: Dark Melee

Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Leadership

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Speed

Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Smite

(A) Accuracy IO
(31) Accuracy IO
(31) Damage Increase IO
(43) Damage Increase IO
(45) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(3) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(3) Defense Buff IO
(5) Endurance Reduction IO
(5) Resist Damage IO
(7) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 2: Shadow Maul

(A) Accuracy IO
(23) Accuracy IO
(39) Damage Increase IO
(40) Damage Increase IO
(40) Recharge Reduction IO
(40) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 4: Battle Agility

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(15) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(17) Defense Buff IO
(42) Defense Buff IO
(42) Endurance Reduction IO
(42) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(13) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(13) Defense Buff IO
(15) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 8: Siphon Life

(A) Accuracy IO
(43) Accuracy IO
(43) Damage Increase IO
(45) Damage Increase IO
(46) Recharge Reduction IO
(46) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 10: Active Defense

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 12: True Grit

(A) Healing IO
(17) Healing IO
(19) Resist Damage IO

Level 14: Maneuvers

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(19) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(21) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance
(23) Defense Buff IO
(27) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 16: Kick

(A) Accuracy IO

Level 18: Dark Consumption

(A) Accuracy IO
(46) Accuracy IO
(48) Recharge Reduction IO
(48) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 20: Tough

(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(21) Endurance Reduction IO
(29) Resist Damage IO
(31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 22: Weave

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance
(25) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(25) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance
(27) Defense Buff IO
(48) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Against All Odds

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 26: Soul Drain

(A) Accuracy IO
(29) Accuracy IO
(33) Endurance Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO
(34) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 28: Phalanx Fighting

(A) Defense Buff IO

Level 30: Super Speed

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

(A) Accuracy IO
(34) Accuracy IO
(34) Damage Increase IO
(37) Damage Increase IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Accuracy IO
(36) Accuracy IO
(36) Damage Increase IO
(36) Damage Increase IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 38: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Physical Perfection

(A) Endurance Modification IO
(45) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 47: One with the Shield

(A) Resist Damage IO

Level 49: Grant Cover

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Accuracy IO

Level 1: Critical Hit

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Rest

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Health

(A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
(9) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(11) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Endurance Modification IO
(7) Endurance Modification IO
(9) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

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hejtmane · May 17, 2019

Heres what i am looking to do with my current dm/sd subject i may modify it some more but right now this is what i am working towards

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MunkiLord · May 17, 2019

What is the recharge number needed to obtain perma hasten? I've gotten my build to soft cap defense with 82.5% recharge before hasten is activated.

It's a 110% global recharge(I think) and hasten three slotted for recharge. Note that the 110% is in addition to the bonus from Hasten itself.

Andferne · May 19, 2019

So I have come to a dilemma with my Incarnate set up. I do not know what summoned companion I want from the Lore incarnate. Suggestions?

Riverdusk · May 21, 2019

What is the recharge number needed to obtain perma hasten? I've gotten my build to soft cap defense with 82.5% recharge before hasten is activated.

It's a 110% global recharge(I think) and hasten three slotted for recharge. Note that the 110% is in addition to the bonus from Hasten itself.

To confirm

Permahasten - Hasten needs a total of +275% Recharge

205% after Hasten's own +70%, 110% after 3 recharge SOs for ~95%

Per the wiki anyway https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma

HoundsTooth · May 22, 2019

Anyone care to post this build in the "plain " for those that haven't yet downloaded a builder.?

Noob question here:

Murcielago do you need the Body Mastery pool for the endurance help? If you slot 2 Endurance Modification and a Performance Shifter in Stamina plus Numina's Convalesence in Health, you have a lot of endurance regeneration. You also have a fast charging Dark Consumption to help out. Pines/Mids doesn't play nicely with Mac so I can't check the exact numbers right now.

I'm considering taking another EPP/APP, either Dark or Fire for extra AoE damage.

MunkiLord · May 22, 2019

What is the recharge number needed to obtain perma hasten? I've gotten my build to soft cap defense with 82.5% recharge before hasten is activated.

It's a 110% global recharge(I think) and hasten three slotted for recharge. Note that the 110% is in addition to the bonus from Hasten itself.

To confirm

Permahasten - Hasten needs a total of +275% Recharge

205% after Hasten's own +70%, 110% after 3 recharge SOs for ~95%

Per the wiki anyway https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma

To add to this, the Alpha Slot and/or using Enhancement Boosters can make getting perma-hasten much easier than it used to be(assuming you don't mind a bit of a grind). Back in the day I didn't have it on all of my high-end characters because it required too much sacrifice in other areas at times. But now it's a much more realistic goal if it is something one wants to pursue.

TheShooter36 · May 22, 2019

Meanwhile I have done some upgrades on the very first build Murcielago posted and achieved softcap.

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1568&c=715&a=1430&f=HEX&dc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

Murcielago · May 23, 2019

Meanwhile I have done some upgrades on the very first build Murcielago posted and achieved softcap.

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1568&c=715&a=1430&f=HEX&dc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

Can you repost the data link, I cannot for the life of me get this build to import.

Andferne · May 23, 2019

What are peoples thoughts on running the Patron arc and replacing Conserve Power with Superior Conditioning?

FUBARczar · May 24, 2019

Here are my two cents, here is a version of mine

(no Incarnate)

M/R/AOE - 45.4

Global Recharge - 178.8

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962

http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Murcielago · May 24, 2019

What are peoples thoughts on running the Patron arc and replacing Conserve Power with Superior Conditioning?

I don't remember that power, how do you get it?

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