Half way to paradise! (well lvl 50 actually)

[Jacktar]

Hi, so my metric for half way would be total inf needed to ding 50 divided by two.

But I am guessing that is not lvl 25?

Wondering how many levels is half way?

Do you have a different metric for half way, number of power picks, number of slots allocated, half the content you usually do, half of the hours lifespan you let an alt have?

So many ways.

Maybe the first time your mind whispers “get a life”? 🥴

Over to you guys…..🍺🍩

 

Edit duh I meant xp not inf, my bad aaaargh old brain 👨🏻‍🦳

Edited September 19 by Jacktar
correct content

[Luminara]

8 minutes ago, Jacktar said:

Hi, so my metric for half way would be total inf needed to ding 50 divided by two.

But I am guessing that is not lvl 25?

 

XP requirement per level increases as level increases.  "Halfway" by XP required is ~3% past level 45 (19,304,119 total XP to hit level 45, 39,149,119 total XP to for 50).

 

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Experience

[Techwright]

24 minutes ago, Jacktar said:

Hi, so my metric for half way would be total inf needed to ding 50 divided by two.

But I am guessing that is not lvl 25?

Wondering how many levels is half way?

Do you have a different metric for half way, number of power picks, number of slots allocated, half the content you usually do, half of the hours lifespan you let an alt have?

So many ways.

Maybe the first time your mind whispers “get a life”? 🥴

Over to you guys…..🍺🍩

 

What do you mean by "total inf needed"?  Do you refer to what INF is needed to purchase enhancements to get you to 50?  If so, you'll need a standardization, say only Single Origin enhancements purchased from vendors.  Even then it is highly subjective as there's not a single price for all enhancements at a given level, and not all builds follow the same choices of enhancements.

[Ukase]

I have never thought about the half way mark. I'm all about "Step-wise refinement". Take a big problem, make it smaller. Want an accolade? determine the badges required, take the steps to get one, then the next, and so on. 

I've never looked at leveling as a journey. I've always looked at my "play" as a series of goals. In some cases, it's accolades or badges, some cases it's reward merits. I rarely even consider XP, because we get it doing just about any fighting anything close to our level. 

 

[Scarlet Shocker]

 

If I had to guess I'd say about level 42 which is a different outfit entirely.

[Yomo Kimyata]

6 hours ago, Scarlet Shocker said:

 

If I had to guess I'd say about level 42 which is a different outfit entirely.

 

 

[Snarky]

10 hours ago, Jacktar said:

Hi, so my metric for half way would be total inf needed to ding 50 divided by two.

But I am guessing that is not lvl 25?

Wondering how many levels is half way?

Do you have a different metric for half way, number of power picks, number of slots allocated, half the content you usually do, half of the hours lifespan you let an alt have?

So many ways.

Maybe the first time your mind whispers “get a life”? 🥴

Over to you guys…..🍺🍩

 

Edit duh I meant xp not inf, my bad aaaargh old brain 👨🏻‍🦳

i had heard 40 is the "halfway" point.  which "feels" about right if you PL an alt.

[Black Talon]

Interesting subject, Jacktar; unlike the previous posters, who have used a very sensible mathematical metric of some sort to figure out what "half-way" is, I'm going to go off pure personal observation.  From my perspective, "half-way" is level 32 - you've a) hit the selection peak for both the primary power and secondary sets, b) are going to be able to refresh the complete enhancement selection (presuming upgrades haven't figured into it), and c) are at the point where you're now filling out the enhancement lists at a full three slots per level, and at two levels sequentially, for that matter.  Still a hell of a lot to go - a load of selection yet to come, and the Epic/Patron powers are still three levels off - but having a full range of powers and slotting available, rather than the comparatively paltry bits available in the 20s, makes things a heck of lot more open and effective, and is my point for an alt reaching "maturity".

[PoptartsNinja]

16 hours ago, Jacktar said:

Wondering how many levels is half way?

Levels 1-35 take roughly the same amount of effort as levels 36-42, which take as ever so slightly more effort than levels 43-50. Level 39 is half-way, because level 40 is such a bear. Everything after level 40 is a gentle downhill jog in terms of effort.

 

The 35-40 level scaling is the harshest in the game. The OG Devs actually had to stop making EXP costs exponential when they added level 41-50 because the amount of effort to go from 49-50 would've been greater than the amount of effort to go from level 1 to level 49 if they hadn't.

[Bigwheela]

For me its around around 32-34.  just feels like a dead zone.

Edited September 20 by Bigwheela
forgot to add a number

[Without_Pause]

45 - 19,304,119 XP

...

50 - 39,149,119 XP

 

Halfway is level 45. 

 

XP from a single Vet Level gets you from 1-37.

 

The most sane way for me to level 30-50 is some variation of soloing x4-x8 even without 2X XP boosters. I have a Level 39 Dark/sr Scrapper doing x4, and I'm getting through two arcs plus some extras in the 35-39 range. Once I hit 40 and get the Mayhem mission badge, I'll simply duo-box to 50, and then flip it to x8 for the drops.

[Without_Pause]

To add, some builds might be a bit like flipping a switch once they hit level 35. Add in another level to further slot said power, and I feel the late 30s is where a build finally comes together, and then you are just waiting for hitting 50, slotting possible purples, superior versions of IOs, etc.

[Crossie]

If you look it at a raw XP amount but higher lvls grant higher amounts of XP which means farming 10 mill xp at lvl 20 is a LOT harder than 10 mill xp at lvl 49.

 

You would almost need to run straight missions solo and count number of missions between levels to see how many total missions are necessary between each interval at different + or - X 1-8 levels.  

 

I don't think this is as simple as it seems to answer this faithfully. 

[Crossie]

Actually.  Now that I think about it.  Kill one yellow minion at each level and see what % towards a level that gives you and you could break each level by number of mobs required to level.  

 

Level 1 it might be 4 but level 50 it might be 5,000.  You could probably do this with any enemy type (orange lieutenant, red boss, etc) to see the % towards level at each level it gives to really provide an in depth answer to this.  

[Andreah]

The real half-way point to me is on the clock, at my best sustainable level of effort.

 

Measuring it by even-con defeats of minions would be pretty darn close, I think.

Edited September 20 by Andreah

[Andreah]

Also, level 50 isn't the real finish line for most people, is it? How about the vet level needed, all things considered, to tier-3 all your incarnates?

[arcane]

17 hours ago, Snarky said:

i had heard 40 is the "halfway" point.  which "feels" about right if you PL an alt.

1-50 on Indom takes just under 3 circus tent city maps for me. 1.5 runs usually puts you around 40-41ish. So I agree with this halfway point.

[Yomo Kimyata]

It's worthwhile noting that your playstyle will affect your perception on this.  If I'm levelling a scrapper, I will up my difficulty and number of opponents as I move along.  By the time I'm in my 40s, I'm probably running x5-x8 and that increases your experience rate like mad.  Generally, my 40s are like a fever dream because they move by so quickly.

 

 

[Yomo Kimyata]

Also, thanks to the devs front-loading powers, I find that the levelling experience is more annoying pre-31 since I generally am wishing for the three enhancement slots than I am for getting my T9 at level 26 and then not having anything constructive to do with it until I level higher then exempt back down.

[Without_Pause]

9 minutes ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

Also, thanks to the devs front-loading powers, I find that the levelling experience is more annoying pre-31 since I generally am wishing for the three enhancement slots than I am for getting my T9 at level 26 and then not having anything constructive to do with it until I level higher then exempt back down.

You don't have to take them that early. Pop a respect once you hit 50 so they are taken earlier with the proper slotting. 

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

Also, thanks to the devs front-loading powers, I find that the levelling experience is more annoying pre-31 since I generally am wishing for the three enhancement slots than I am for getting my T9 at level 26 and then not having anything constructive to do with it until I level higher then exempt back down.

this is one of the many reasons i level through TF/SF/Trial in (ending level) order.  in my 25s-30s i am taking powers and not enhancing them.  using slots on stuff for lower level TF/SF

[Hedgefund]

I merged the mob XP detailed on paragonwiki with the xp needed to level.  Unfortunately HC wiki does not have this info listed so I went with the old one figuring it would, at worst, be "close enough". https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Experience

 

I created a field to represent number of even con minions (I did not account for lieuts, bosses or higher [or lower] feel free to tackle that yourself).  It looks like it takes almost 43,500 mobs to get to 50, half that (21,750) happens between levels 37 and 38.  Feel free to interpolate if you want more precision, I've used up all the time I'm dedicating to this.

 

	XP to next lvl	Cumulative XP	XP per minion	Minions to level	Cumulative minions to level
1	n/a	0	10
2	106	106	10	10.6	10.6
3	337	443	10	33.7	44.3
4	582	1,025	10	58.2	102.5
5	800	1,825	11	72.72727273	175.2272727
6	1,237	3,062	12	103.0833333	278.3106061
7	1,575	4,637	14	112.5	390.8106061
8	1,950	6,587	15	130	520.8106061
9	2,680	9,267	16	167.5	688.3106061
10	3,125	12,392	17	183.8235294	872.1341355
11	3,600	15,992	20	180	1052.134135
12	4,995	20,987	25	199.8	1251.934135
13	6,405	27,392	30	213.5	1465.434135
14	7,400	34,792	37	200	1665.434135
15	9,093	43,885	43	211.4651163	1876.899252
16	11,184	55,069	44	254.1818182	2131.08107
17	13,000	68,069	46	282.6086957	2413.689766
18	15,950	84,019	47	339.3617021	2753.051468
19	19,200	103,219	48	400	3153.051468
20	23,400	126,619	50	468	3621.051468
21	28,000	154,619	51	549.0196078	4170.071076
22	36,000	190,619	52	692.3076923	4862.378768
23	45,000	235,619	60	750	5612.378768
24	56,000	291,619	69	811.5942029	6423.972971
25	69,300	360,919	96	721.875	7145.847971
26	85,200	446,119	110	774.5454545	7920.393425
27	108,000	554,119	127	850.3937008	8770.787126
28	135,000	689,119	146	924.6575342	9695.44466
29	166,650	855,769	169	986.0946746	10681.53933
30	203,400	1,059,169	210	968.5714286	11650.11076
31	254,000	1,313,169	240	1058.333333	12708.4441
32	314,600	1,627,769	274	1148.175182	13856.61928
33	386,400	2,014,169	312	1238.461538	15095.08082
34	470,600	2,484,769	353	1333.144476	16428.22529
35	571,200	3,055,969	429	1331.468531	17759.69383
36	701,500	3,757,469	484	1449.380165	19209.07399
37	854,700	4,612,169	546	1565.384615	20774.45861
38	1,036,600	5,648,769	658	1575.379939	22349.83855
39	1,250,200	6,898,969	792	1578.535354	23928.3739
40	1,502,550	8,401,519	892	1684.473094	25612.84699
41	1,692,900	10,094,419	943	1795.227996	27408.07499
42	1,907,550	12,001,969	1063	1794.496707	29202.5717
43	2,150,550	14,152,519	1198	1795.116861	30997.68856
44	2,421,900	16,574,419	1351	1792.672095	32790.36065
45	2,729,700	19,304,119	1524	1791.141732	34581.50238
46	3,078,000	22,382,119	1719	1790.575916	36372.0783
47	3,470,850	25,852,969	1938	1790.944272	38163.02257
48	3,912,300	29,765,269	2185	1790.526316	39953.54889
49	4,410,450	34,175,719	2464	1789.955357	41743.50425
50	4,973,400	39,149,119	2866	1735.310537	43478.81478
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