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I predicted this day would come. I have WS vs PBs in an excel sheet from years ago, I figured that PBs would be superior, back then PBs were hindered and the hindrance was causing PBs to be considered by some as inferior to WS, one hindrance is less so now without a doubt, thanks mainly to incarnates, another hindrance is less so thanks to other changes ie lightform, IOsets. I'd be happy with all the KB taken out, you could leave it on PBs, and see how that looks, because balance is difficult to achieve. I have 5 concepts on WS alone, you can balance for one concept and then another concept is overkill.

I would of moved the set from flamethrower to full auto, then move the set from buckshot to flame thrower, because they get the recharge times down better, then end slot boost range as its perma anyway. Otherwise it's a matter of play it and see.

I kept everything you were going for but just saved on a few slots to give more in targeting drone, taking slots from assault was easy and you shouldn't miss the others really, Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Undying Affliction: Level 50 Technology Blaster Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Devices Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Medicine Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Force Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Pistols -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7) Level 1: Toxic Web Grenade -- TraoftheH-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(45), Slow-I(46) Level 2: Dual Wield -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Apc-Acc/Rchg(9), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Apc-Dam%(11) Level 4: Empty Clips -- SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBrr-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprDfnBrr-Rchg/+Status Protect(15) Level 6: Caltrops -- TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(46), Slow-I(46) Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29) Level 10: Targeting Drone -- GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(27), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--Build%(31), GssSynFr--ToHit(45) Level 12: Suppressive Fire -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(17), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(17), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(19) Level 14: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(36) Level 16: Swap Ammo Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- DfnBrr-Acc/Dmg(A), DfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), DfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), DfnBrr-Dmg/Rchg(23), DfnBrr-Rchg/+Status Protect(23) Level 20: Field Operative -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(25), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(25), PrfShf-EndMod(27), PrfShf-End%(29) Level 22: Smoke Grenade -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(37), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(37), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(39) Level 24: Aid Other -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal(36) Level 26: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36), Rct-ResDam%(37) Level 28: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 30: Bullet Rain -- JvlVll-Dam%(A), JvlVll-Acc/Dmg(39), JvlVll-Dam/Rech(39), JvlVll-Dam/End/Rech(40), JvlVll-Acc/End/Rech(40), JvlVll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(40) Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsWrt-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsWrt-Rchg/Dmg%(33), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34) Level 35: Personal Force Field -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 38: Gun Drone -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(42), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(42), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(43), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(43) Level 41: Temp Invulnerability -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(42), GldArm-End/Res(45) Level 44: Force of Nature -- GldArm-RechRes(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Trip Mine -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Arm-Acc/Rchg(48), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Arm-Dam%(50) Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A) Level 1: Defiance Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: 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I liked this build, so many 45% def builds are so barren for aoes that you wonder how they destroy spawns quickly, I am a triformer myself and like to splatter things all over the park but I have been looking for a human form to work from, and this was good. I can trade defense for offense, I like doing damage. Your build barely dips out to powerpools in comparison to many, just like my triforms, it's good to see this Warshade and not something I might just say, well you could of rolled a sentinel for that. Great build to work from imo.

Can the Spines be made to look like ice?

I would of thought the Toxic res in reconstruction was self stackable like Healing Flames so, from stacking it 3 times you hit 45% resistance. Is it not the case? Because then you don't really have to slot it for resistance if so.

I think Blapping is a thing, it is a need to be done thing, lets face it other characters you can properly IOset out for their roles, but blapping is unintended, playing outside of game design intent and so out of a comfort zone. Pure blap is like another AT.

Energy proc in acid arrow.

+Regen, +End rec are bonuses I don't see you needing, I would avoid those type of bonuses which will likely mean you add resistance or something else, 4 slotting stamina, I just wouldn't, your end rec should be good without 4 slots. You have your heart set on more dam, clearly go for +dam, I would slot in build up procs, so you add to your damage with all the free slots you save from avoiding +regen and +end rec. Possibly get Assault.

Split teams in 2 and do separate parts of a map, for something more challenging, or even go solo your own mob. Incarnates and no new game content is going to leave you with an unchallenging nerfed game.

Okay, I can use a proc'd snowstorm to herd, then, frostbite, blizzard, icestorm, frostbreath, block of ice any problems then comes frozen aura (proc'd to compete with Blizzard), then ST mobs. All at 45% def. Every 20s approx. and then if I need to kite aerially snowstorm has minus -fly. I also have an attack chain like yours, def is 45% S/L/E/N ----Sounds interesting to me, thanks for your help.

This made me laugh, but some of what you proceeded to say has made me have another rethink, thanks for your help, yep I am gonna have to rethink it.

Sorry for the necromancy, it just shows I do some research to build before enacting on a build. I made Ice/Ice/Ice, worked out any unnecessary +hp sets as you hit cap so easily and concentrated on softcapping S/L, E/N, however I don't have to need a lot of defense anyway as there is always active forms of damage mitigation which is why I like the Ice epic. I have no idea of what the sentinel is like ingame, I just know it proved problematic to get it to a point buildwise to say, yeah, that is different, that may have a niche and a different playstyle I think I may give it a go, unlike /SR/Nin which was more hello baby. I might need some update as incase I may of made a huge mistake. Frigid Shield, Moisture Absorption and Icy Bastion are gone, from my concept how missable/needed are these to any of you ingame?

If your team orientated, do TFs, etc a lot, then Gaussian proc build up + def bonus could entice you but I would ask Redlynne about them if I were you, you'll either have the slots or not.

I ran full leaderships on some of my support characters, assault on scrappers, entire leaderships on Willpower characters, bits and pieces here and there... but if you do enough -tohit, maneuvers is less necessary, if you do enough -def then +tohit is less necessary, if you do -res, then just milk that with assault anyway. If your concept or entire build says "Screw what someone else has said, I need the "insert leadership power" because you have the main goal with your concept then clearly , you win. If in your quest for a niche or role within some aspect of the game says you can't afford to take leaderships then it's not a problem nor should it be. Using them in game, you enter some teams, you maybe overbaking something, turn them off for end gain, nothing big is happening turn them off until something is, but experience makes you wise as to when and where the crucial moments are.

a pug.

Wow, @Nihilii, you're kind of the type of player I generally hung out with when the game was live, going back to when the STF came out, I knew I could tank it with an SO'd scrapper for a bunch of scrappers (no defs, no cons) but it took a lot of time to get the scrapper team together, there was no incarnates then, but I did the Jade Spider Task Force with a scrapper keeping all hostages alive to get some belief in me, we are going so far back to when the US and EU forums were separated. We died so little on our all scrapper STF we worked out that an MoSTF for an all scrapper team was easily possible, it was everything I need to know and job done in one attempt, one of the scrappers in my team was DSorrow who you linked to by Crazy Controller Tricks. I mainly did Tanks, my tanking that with a Scrapper when it was so much harder was a show of out of the box knowledge. I like what you're doing, it's easier with incarnates in some/most cases but it's still great. Whilst I have been absent it's like you have been living some of my dreams.

This is where I come from too, people say Dark Armour is end heavy, it's not because you don't have to run everything all of the time, part of being good with your character is knowing your enemies, some powers are wasted on enemies, some less so, some not at all. They're situational. I found I didn't even have to use an attack with my character levelling up versus Crey, I was just a dark cloud of doom, stand there let my toggles do the work. Whatever character I am on I have had a kill list levelling up, you're first, you're next and then the whole npc group is easier. Dark regeneration or consumption fodder is like an Invuln keeping mobs alive to improve defense as it tanks an AV, it works.

People could reply writing a book, if you wanted post a build with power choices and see if we can make it effective role and concept wise.

I don't know if the mage tanking will work throughout the game (probably will as IO sets and incarnates change the hardness setting without additional game content) but yeah, they're guards, so that's support fire, taking damage, dictating the battle field to a certain extent, yeah fits well, when players, usually scrapperlocked disappear around the map off into something that's over their heads and other team members can't compromise the main team by supporting them, I'm doing it. If a map is too easy and you need to make it harder splitting the team in parts is good.

I just made a build, Bio Savage, with Hasten, Presence pool, for invoke panic and unrelenting, 20ft pbaoe fear being a means to lower dps, its got 90% resistance to S/L, as well. That with team support should be more than fine and solo, well can't be too bad. I'm tempted to make it a main now.

Bio and Cimerorans, hmm aside from team support, which you make sound, lacking, I'd be tempted to pair Bio with Presence pool and give the ITF a shot using the pbaoe fear and unrelenting for the self res just incase I was wrong about the fear.

Pets, BG mode, buff them and take aggro off them by dealing damage/control/debuff enemies directly yourself or perhaps a taunt power, be the highest threat. I like all options. Also depending on pets, pet placement and/or your position, keep aoes off them on you.

Those that say Dark Armour / Dark Melee sucks are probably doing things wrong, I did Brute and Tank mind you but endurance management was easily done, solved, but in part because of the build. No one is stealing end from the character, it is balanced to other scrappers and by playing to ones needs you get bang for buck out of the build, it's a different breed from others and some sets are high performers on one AT and low performers on another and so I don't know if the sets shine less on a scrapper AT but I can imagine the better players make the scrapper version shine. Those that can't get on with things are just happy to blame anything but themselves with an "If I can't do it, no one can" attitude. I'm always tempted to play all the sucky characters.

If you lowered your threat level via stealth, would the shield generator take aggro, and when you get aggro travel suppression is a factor on repositioning for another placement?