Bill Z Bubba

You're not wrong.

I hit H for fly between spawns and shield charge is nice.

Live build: Proc build: This is easier. Live: Proc. I have absolutely no idea how this would play out or what attack chain would come of it or any of that. Just making comparisons.

Damnit, I didn't save it... one sec

Made me look. Turned off everything. Live build. Oh yea... freakin musculature buffing defense.

Won't you still build for it regardless? But 53+.75 = 39.75. Guess you'll have to change the build a bit to get that extra 5.25% defense while dishing out 3 times the damage.

Why? They'll do even more damage and just cut the mitigation by 25%.

tease

I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm. If it's not, then PB has a 10.7 second downtime with a a single 50+5 recred and absolutely no other recharge in the build at all. Which is, I guess, possible at 50... if you work at it....

Or to put it another way, here's my shield/nrg tank as she is on live: And here she is with as many damage procs as I can get in BS, TF, ET and Gloom. Still softcapped, some loss of resists and a bit less HP.

Everyone can run with all three amplifiers all the time as well or store and use huge insps from email. Is that really a solid basis for a balance discussion? Let's look at some random power. 33.8 nrg and 52.8 sma at 50 for a tank. 86.6 total damage. 172.3 damage with 100% dam enhancement. Proced out that's 4 procs at 71.75 dam and 1 at 107.1 for a total of 394.1 damage (edit: plus the damage from the attack itself) if they all go off if Mids is correct on the values. Does anyone really think there's remote equity between proced and nonproced attacks? Someone else can determine what the actual proc chances are.

Mmmmm ... bath salts.

If that is the case, it should be noted that if you build for permahasten, PB is perma even unslotted. I've got a 50+5 endred in mine.

But do they? Really? Yea, they lose some set bonuses, so some mitigation loss that's probably completely covered by Rune/Demonic/Melee Core if even remotely necessary, loss of slotting is covered by FocAcc or Tactics and Ageless... I'd have to argue that the damage gains greatly outweigh the loss in mitigation.

From *this* crowd? Where we eke out 1% extra damage for pylons?

Tough call. There are arguments for and against each, SR, SD or Nrg... but I'd probably lean Nrg for the extra end and self-heal. But that low DDR.... Edit: Buuut, ageless radial for DDR since your end costs should be covered by energize and drain.

Difference being that shield *needs* to doublestack AD for DDR. I honestly can't think of many cases where dblstckd PB provides benefit.

You enjoying that?

Concerning the Sentinel treatment: Yes, this would be awesome. I'd happily have toggled mez protection from FF and FS and a click absorb shield on my SR users. They'd be even more unkillable which may be a solid reason not to do it. Concerning PB usage as is: I auto hasten and since PB has the same duration. I'll watch hasten fire off, click PB, no double stacking, no waste of end. Concerning only using PB when needed since it acts as a break-free, absolutely doable but please remember than knockback will reduce your DPS far more than clicking PB.

And I'll stick with my "reduce all proc damage by 75%" line.

I did and promptly deleted him. Unlike having three BZBs, I can't rationalize having two nrg and shield users. I want a damn claws/shield scrapper.

You're not wrong.

Very nice.

But there's the rub: many care not at all for balance.