Dual Pistals - Super Reflexes Sentinal Build

SmalltalkJava · July 8, 2021

I've been playing around with Dual Pistols and SR on the test server for the last few days. Trying to find a Dual Pistols and SR build that I enjoyed. One of the problems that plagues me is finding a streamlined attack rotation. Finding those is just something that I'm not good at. Luckily @nihilii solved the base line starting point for me with his DP/Regen build that was posted in the Pylon Damage Thread that used: Executioner's Shot -> Suppressive Fire -> Pistols. I started out porting that build to DP/SR and it worked, but without ageless it ran out of endurance rather quickly. So then it occurred to me that I could swap Pistols for Duel Wield to take advantage of Defensive Opportunity. Luckily after some rework and multiple builds, I was able to get it in a position where I could go without using blues and not rely on ageless. As a matter of fact, I like my builds to run without incarnates just to see how they run naturally. I was able to use Executioner's Shot -> Suppressive Fire -> Duel Wield. And if I messed up, then I could just reverse it. So it was really forgiving. And it doesn't need Incarnates.

I was able to take down a pylon without incarnates and without inspirations. It took a while but I did it. I also spent some time running a few PI missions at +3x8 and also the PI portal mission. They all went pretty well. I ran some Dark Astoria missions and f' those Assassins. Regardless, I found this build to be fun and smooth.

Things I like about it

Perma Hasten
Soft Capped to positional defenses, without Hover running, turn on Hover for another percent or two if you need it.
24.33 Second recharge on Hail of Bullets nuke.
4.79 second recharge on Bullet Rain aoe.
When your endurance starts to get down, then that is about the time Defensive Opportunity comes online and right back up it fills.
S/L Resists at 30.49 E/N/F/C are at 17.75
Victory Rush for use to help out teammates that might have endurance problems
Easy 3 attack rotation for single targets.

It's not a world breaker, but it was relaxing and fun.

Here is a short video of it in action

The Build

Ps. in the build. Evasion, Tactics, Focus Senses, and Agile have alternate slot options. They are ones that I was flipping back and forth with as I was trying things out in game. I was looking at Hasten recharge time, resists, and defenses. Trying to find sweet spots.

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

DP - SR FINAL TEST 2: Level 50 Magic Sentinel
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Dual Wield
(A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(3) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(3) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(5) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(5) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(7) Decimation - Chance of Build Up

Level 1: Focused Fighting
(A) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(7) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance

Level 2: Focused Senses
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(9) Red Fortune - Defense
(9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(11) Red Fortune - Endurance
(13) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Agile
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
(15) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(17) Shield Wall - Defense
(17) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 6: Suppressive Fire
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
(21) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(21) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(25) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance

Level 8: Swap Ammo
Level 10: Master Brawler
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(25) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
(27) Panacea - Heal/Recharge
(27) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(29) Panacea - Heal
(29) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 12: Bullet Rain
(A) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb

Level 14: Hover
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(33) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 16: Enduring
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(34) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(34) Power Transfer - EndMod

Level 18: Executioner's Shot
(A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Apocalypse - Damage
(36) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(36) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(36) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 20: Boxing
(A) Accuracy IO

Level 22: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 24: Fly
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 26: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
(40) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 28: Dodge
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(42) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 32: Hail of Bullets
(A) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(42) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(43) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(43) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(43) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 35: Quickness
(A) Run Speed IO

Level 38: Evasion
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(45) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(45) Red Fortune - Endurance
(46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Red Fortune - Defense

Level 41: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 44: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 47: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 49: Victory Rush
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 1: Opportunity
Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 2: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Health
(A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(13) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 24: Afterburner
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
(A) Empty

Level 4:   Ninja Run
Level 50:   Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50:   Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50:   Portal Jockey
Level 50:   Task Force Commander
Level 50:   The Atlas Medallion
Level 8:   Chemical Ammunition
Level 8:   Cryo Ammunition
Level 8:   Incendiary Ammunition
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Sentinel (Dual Pistols - SR) Final 2.mxd

Edited July 9, 2021 by SmalltalkJava

Caulderone · July 9, 2021

Very nice. I've been toying with a DP/SR build for a while. It's interesting to see how similar and yet how different a particular build can be.

I'm not convinced this is a build where perma-Hasten is needed or too beneficial, which is quite unusual. Without it I have +1 sec recharge on Bullet Rain, +3.6 sec on MB, and +4.56 sec on Hail. In exchange, I got more resists and a smidge more hp and regen.

The ST chain (ES-SF-DW) is exactly what I had ended up deciding on and doesn't need Hasten to achieve. Good to see it in action and viable. Thanks for the Vid!

SmalltalkJava · July 10, 2021

Nice. I'd like to get more resists. I'm just not sure where to take it from here.

Caulderone · July 10, 2021

Well, I'll drop my work in progress plan below. I keep tinkering with it, but this is the current plan. Maybe it will provide some ideas you can use, as I'm still picking at yours to find things I can tweak in mine.

Spoiler

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1484&c=746&a=1492&f=HEX&dc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

plainguy · July 10, 2021

This what I have and serves me well

8/3 setting on missions.

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Natural Sentinel
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Ninja Tool Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), AchHee-ResDeb%(3), TchofLadG-%Dam(7), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), ShlBrk-%Dam(36)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- ExpStr-Dam%(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(13), Apc-Dam%(13), Apc-Dmg(15), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(15), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Empty Clips -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(5), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(7), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(11)
Level 6: Focused Senses -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(9), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 8: Swap Ammo
Level 10: Agile -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(19), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(19)
Level 12: Bullet Rain -- SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprOppStr-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprOppStr-Rchg/+Opportunity(25)
Level 14: Master Brawler -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(25), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Prv-Heal/Rchg(27), Prv-Absorb%(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(43)
Level 16: Enduring -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(29), PrfShf-EndMod(29)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50)
Level 20: Dodge -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39)
Level 26: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 28: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSntWar-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprSntWar-Rchg/+Absorb(34)
Level 35: Evasion -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(40), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def(39), RedFrt-EndRdx(42)
Level 38: Tashibishi -- PstBls-Dam%(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(39)
Level 41: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(46), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--Build%(45)
Level 44: Sting of the Wasp -- KntCmb-Knock%(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(46), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: The Lotus Drops -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), Obl-%Dam(48), Erd-%Dam(48), Arm-Dam%(48)
Level 49: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(50)
Level 1: Opportunity
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(37), Pnc-Heal/+End(37)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(43), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(43)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 8: Chemical Ammunition
Level 8: Cryo Ammunition
Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition
Level 26: Speed Phase
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SmalltalkJava · July 10, 2021

Thank you both. I've only had a few minutes to start digging in. Definitely very very interesting. I have a question about the attack cycle and timing. There are 3 attacks and each attack has an animation time of 1.67 seconds. Does that mean there will be no wait time if each attack recharges within 3.24 (1.67+ 1.67) seconds?

Attack 1 and its recharge starts

>> attack 2 starts for 1.67 animation time,

>>>> Attack 2 done - attack 1 has been recharging for 1.67 seconds

>> Attack 3 starts for 1.67 Animation time,

>>>> Attack 3 done, - attack 1 has been recharging for 3.24 (1.67 + 1.67) seconds

>>>> Attack 3 done, - attack 2 has been recharging for 1.67 seconds

Then the cycle would just continue rolling with 1.67 second increments.

Looking at your builds I might be able to change some sets around to lose some recharge for resists and HP. Then my Force Feedback proc can assist a little bit to offset.

Edited July 10, 2021 by SmalltalkJava

Caulderone · July 10, 2021

All 3 of the attacks have an Arcanatime of 1.848 seconds. So, they each need to recharge in 3.696 seconds or less (1.848 x 2).

In the planner, be sure to check the Use Arcanatime for Animation Times checkbox (options->effects & math tab) to see that.

Bopper · July 10, 2021

3 minutes ago, Caulderone said:

In the planner, be sure to check the Use Arcanatime for Animation Times checkbox (options->effects & math tab) to see that.

We also added it to the tooltipstring if you hover over the cast time. So if cast time is 1.67s, hovering over it will show 1.848s arcana.

DarknessEternal · July 10, 2021

Are we sure arcanatime is still really a thing?

Underfyre · July 10, 2021

7 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Are we sure arcanatime is still really a thing?

Somewhere between yes, more than yes, and also no.

DarknessEternal · July 10, 2021

Good thing we have that figured out then.

SmalltalkJava · July 10, 2021

On 7/10/2021 at 11:59 AM, DarknessEternal said:

Good thing we have that figured out then.

I think it was underfyre, but i remember someone wondering due to testing or something if arcana time actually applied when powers were queued. It applied on the first attack but not subsequent attacks as long as they were queued. But I could be misremembering. So don't quote me on it.

Anyways. I found a simple way to get a smidge more heat/cold resist. I changed the slotting in Master Brawler from Panacea to Preventative Medicine, and put the panacea proc in Health.

S/L Resists are up by just over 2 points now and are now at 32.74 and Fire/Cold got bumped up a few points to 20%

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

DP - SR FINAL TEST 2: Level 50 Magic Sentinel
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Dual Wield
(A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(3) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(3) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(5) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(5) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(7) Decimation - Chance of Build Up

Level 1: Focused Fighting
(A) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(7) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance

Level 2: Focused Senses
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(9) Red Fortune - Defense
(9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(11) Red Fortune - Endurance
(13) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Agile
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
(15) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
(17) Shield Wall - Defense
(17) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 6: Suppressive Fire
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
(21) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(21) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(23) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(25) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance

Level 8: Swap Ammo
Level 10: Master Brawler
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
(25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
(27) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
(27) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
(29) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 12: Bullet Rain
(A) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Damage/RechargeTime
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(31) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(33) Superior Sentinel's Ward - RechargeTime/Chance for +Absorb

Level 14: Hover
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(33) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 16: Enduring
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(34) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(34) Power Transfer - EndMod

Level 18: Executioner's Shot
(A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Apocalypse - Damage
(36) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(36) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(36) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 20: Boxing
(A) Accuracy IO

Level 22: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 24: Fly
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 26: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
(40) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 28: Dodge
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(42) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 32: Hail of Bullets
(A) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(42) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(43) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(43) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(43) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 35: Quickness
(A) Run Speed IO

Level 38: Evasion
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(45) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(45) Red Fortune - Endurance
(46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Red Fortune - Defense

Level 41: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 44: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 47: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 49: Victory Rush
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 1: Opportunity
Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 2: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(13) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
(A) Empty

Level 4:   Ninja Run
Level 50:   Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50:   Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50:   Portal Jockey
Level 50:   Task Force Commander
Level 50:   The Atlas Medallion
Level 8:   Chemical Ammunition
Level 8:   Cryo Ammunition
Level 8:   Incendiary Ammunition
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Oh, I've started to dabble in an Ice/SR build that seems like it will be pretty interesting. It won't be quite as damage proc as this build, but it looks like it will help with some healing. It should have Ice Blast, Chilling Ray, Bitter Ice Blast as the single target rotation with just 1.34 seconds short of perma Ice Storm and under 25 second Blizzard. I have to build and test it out. I'll probably make an alternate thread for that.

Sentinel (Dual Pistols - SR) Final 2.mxd

Edited July 12, 2021 by SmalltalkJava

Underfyre · July 10, 2021

Yeah, I read the original arcanaville post wrong. After doing my own testing I was getting results varying from standard arcanatime, to longer than arcanatime, to less than cast time but there was a buffer time between abilities, to just flat cast time. So I just don't know what to do with all the info. It seems like arcanatime is just a good average time to stick with.

Bill Z Bubba · July 10, 2021

8 hours ago, underfyre said:

Somewhere between yes, more than yes, and also no.

5 hours ago, underfyre said:

Yeah, I read the original arcanaville post wrong. After doing my own testing I was getting results varying from standard arcanatime, to longer than arcanatime, to less than cast time but there was a buffer time between abilities, to just flat cast time. So I just don't know what to do with all the info. It seems like arcanatime is just a good average time to stick with.

@Bopper mentioned that internal testing was showing worse than arcanatime variance on actual cast time which gave me a big ol' sad (making me miss my attack chain spreadsheets slightly less given their obvious inaccuracies) and I still haven't gotten an answer on how/why this would be. Hopefully the devs will chime in one day with what an attack's *actual* cast time is given the current hardware/software environment CoH is running on. Although based on what you've stated and what I've read elsewhere, it seems that there is NO *actual* cast time.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

oldskool · July 12, 2021

Fun stuff.

So, I run a frankenslotted setup in my attacks (Pistols, Suppressive Fire, Executioner's Shot) with +5 Acc/dmg, Acc/dmg/end, Dmg/end Thunderstrike sets. The other 3 slots are all procs of some kind.

That combination there is really the only secret sauce that makes my build any different from those posted. I do push 5 purple sets (I have an Apocalypse mule in Dual Wield with no proc) to get my global recharge at 195%.

The high recharge is only necessary to push Executioner's Shot availability when it is not slotted with recharge enhancement. Pistols + Suppressive Fire = 3.036 seconds of animation time on the Arcanatime scale. My Executioner's Shot with just global recharge refreshes every 3.36 seconds.

Another option is to run Executioner's Shot + Pistols + Suppressive Fire + Pistols which can allow for Executioner's Shot to have a 4.224 second cooldown. Funny enough, that is also the same rate of time you'd want Piercing Rounds to recharge in order to make Piercing Rounds - Pistols - Executioner - Pistols gapless. However, the proc stacking of Suppressive Fire makes it a better choice for speedy pew-pew. I only take PR on my Defender and Corr to use the higher -resistance debuff due to their class modifiers.

I don't run Tactics because I have a high level of accuracy and don't mind using a yellow inspire if I get debuffed on to-hit. I do get the convenience of having Gaussian's proc in that power, but the tick rate on solo play is very low. However, if you buff teammates with Tactics the proc will check for every member giving you a slightly inflated result.

Watching the clip, I wonder the overall value of Decimation proc. I see it go off a couple of times, and it is possible one of those was a lucky Gaussian. However, it seems to add little value to me. I do currently run it, but I've been considering dropping it.

Destiny-wise, I often run Rebirth for 98% of the content I play. It is an underrated power, but Barrier is also nice. Ageless is too, but I don't feel I need the endurance or the recharge.

Edited July 12, 2021 by oldskool

Underfyre · July 13, 2021

11 hours ago, oldskool said:

Watching the clip, I wonder the overall value of Decimation proc. I see it go off a couple of times, and it is possible one of those was a lucky Gaussian. However, it seems to add little value to me. I do currently run it, but I've been considering dropping it.

While I was doing my runs it was suggested I take Decimation out of the attack and see the numbers. It was on Dominate, and Dominate was specifically placed after Aim and before the abilities that would take best advantage of the 80% boost. It ended up adding like 6dps? I was whelmed. Just regular whelmed.

oldskool · July 13, 2021

12 hours ago, underfyre said:

While I was doing my runs it was suggested I take Decimation out of the attack and see the numbers. It was on Dominate, and Dominate was specifically placed after Aim and before the abilities that would take best advantage of the 80% boost. It ended up adding like 6dps? I was whelmed. Just regular whelmed.

Yeah, a boost of roughly 4-6 DPS is about where my napkin mathing is coming. I could replace it with a damage proc and likely not notice much, if any, real difference.

SmalltalkJava · July 13, 2021

Yes, it isn't really doing much. I think I may swap it out for maybe an overwhelming force damage/knockdown. that will give some knockdown and a bit more damage. There aren't really any more damage procs left to put in there, unless I just missed one.

Option 1:

Level 1: Dual Wield
(A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(3) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(3) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(5) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(5) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(7) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown

Option 2. even this for a 6 more Fire/Cold Resists

Level 1: Dual Wield

(A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(3) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(3) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(5) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(5) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(7) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage

Additionally, I noticed that if I remove the Gaussian Build Up proc and go with 6 Adjusted Targeting, then I get 3 more S/L resists. If I go with Option 2 and 6 Adjusted Targeting.

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

DP - SR FINAL TEST 2: Level 50 Magic Sentinel
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1: Dual Wield
(A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(3) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(3) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(5) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(5) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(7) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage