ninja surprise Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 That Never Have I Ever thread got me thinking - I've never really played a toon with matching primary and secondary very high. I've gotten a Dark/Dark of some sort around level 30. Saw some good builds here recently, I'm going to give those a go if my toon's is a Tank. Abandoned a Fire/Fire Scrapper in the 20's. Never done the other combos. Is there an elemental combo you love playing? The two I'm most likely to go with are Fire/Fire and Electric/Electric. Dark Armor / Dark Melee Electric Armor / Electrical Melee Fiery Aura / Fiery Melee Ice Armor / Ice Melee Radiation Armor / Radiation Melee Stone Armor / Stone Melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-Dirty Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I absolutely LOVED My stone/stone back on live 1 Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, I-Dirty said: I absolutely LOVED My stone/stone back on live That's one I'm somewhat tempted to try, but worry about the lack of endurance recovery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-Dirty Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, ninja surprise said: That's one I'm somewhat tempted to try, but worry about the lack of endurance recovery. Nahhh zero end problems with my stoner now 1 Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I just recently made an ice/ice. In mid's it looks like I'll have soft capped defenses to S/L/E/N.E/F/C. Can't remember what the resists were, bit I'm not counting on them being anything great to write home about. I really just made it to be a novelty toon (aka Santa). We'll see. I've NEVER done same/same before. 1 1 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, ninja surprise said: That Never Have I Ever thread got me thinking - I've never really played a toon with matching primary and secondary very high. I have never done matching sets either. Resist the siren's call of matched sets. DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR PURITY! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemX Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 One of my first villains was a rad/rad corruptor. I've also done a Ninja Blade / Ninjitsu Stalker. Haven't been tempted to do it yet on a Tanker, mostly because after doing a Rad/Staff I wanted a defense-based Tanker. And I'd sooner go Shield/Ice than Ice/Ice. Can pick the ice shield customization and feel like I'm a full ice-themed character without having to take Ice Armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Went digging through my toons and found: Tank: Dark/Dark, level 30 Brute Dark/Dark, level 31 Rad/Rad, level 50 - This was when I swore off Rad Melee and Brutes. Tankers and Scrappers for me, baby! Scrapper Dark/Dark 31 Fire/Fire 9 Also have some matching Doms: Earth/Earth @ 37, Fire/Fire @ 25. Also Fire/Fire Blasters and Sentinel. I realized I just don't like Dark/Dark as much as I enjoy my Bio/Dark. I already have a ton of Ice Armor and Fiery Aura toons... is an Elec/Elec in my future? End my lifelong boycott of Stone Armor? Or maybe my next Scrapper will be Nrg/Nrg since that's possible now? THE POSSIBILITIES Edited October 4, 2021 by ninja surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I have a few that are fun at lvl 50: Archery/Tactical Arrow Dual Pistols/Devices (Close enough) Luminous Blast/Luminous Aura Umbral Blast/Umbral Aura Dual Blades/Ninjitsu (Close Enough) Broad Sword/Shield (Close Enough) Water Blast/Storm Summoning (Close Enough) Night Widow Training/Widow Teamwork Fortunata Training/Fortunata Teamwork Crab Spider Soldier/Crab Spider Training Bane Spider Soldier/Bane Spider Training That all said, I much rather enjoy mix and matching for more variation and some really interesting power combinations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) For tanks I've gotten a Dark/Dark to 50, now, and had a Fire/Fire to 50 on Live. I'd also argue that Inv/SS is "close enough" 😁 My first ever toon on Live was Eng/Eng blaster. I just wanted to fly, dammit! He finally made 50, after about ten years and 100 other toons to 50. I also remade my Rad/Rad defender from Live (and got him to 50 on HC) and he's an AV killer, for sure. Edited October 4, 2021 by PLVRIZR reworded 1 Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyonico Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I like Fire/Fire, though I will admit, it's very much a kill-or-be-killed set up. I suspect that will be different once I have his build complete (he's only level 43 or 44 right now). Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Lil-Devil: Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Fiery AuraSecondary Power Set: Fiery MeleePower Pool: FlightPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: Leadership Hero Profile:Level 1: Fire Shield -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(13), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(36), GldArm-ResDam(37), ImpArm-ResPsi(42), GldArm-3defTpProc(43)Level 1: Scorch -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 2: Fire Sword -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(33)Level 4: Healing Flames -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(5), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(25), Prv-Absorb%(25)Level 6: Combustion -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(7), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(34), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(34), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), HO:Cyto(50)Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 12: Plasma Shield -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(13), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(36), GldArm-ResDam(37), ImpArm-ResPsi(42), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)Level 14: Blazing Aura -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(15), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15)Level 16: Breath of Fire -- Ann-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(46)Level 18: Burn -- Mlt-Acc/Dmg(A), Mlt-Dmg/Rchg(19), Mlt-Acc/EndRdx(21), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27)Level 20: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 22: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), GssSynFr--Build%(23)Level 24: Temperature Protection -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A)Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(31), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(31), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)Level 30: Consume -- EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(A), PrfShf-Acc/Rchg(31)Level 32: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 35: Tough -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(36), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(37), GldArm-ResDam(40), ImpArm-ResPsi(42), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(39), PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(40), PrfZng-Acc/Rchg(40)Level 41: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(45), Rct-Def(45), Rct-ResDam%(45)Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50)Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), HO:Cyto(50)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon Level 20: Afterburner ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1366;678;1356;HEX;| |78DA8D934B4F135114C7CF746E2DD316B0F4457997575B814215DDB830C68A0169C| |2C29589360D8E65B4696B0789B833F1B97265FC0C6EFC0CBEF513F85C1A8D2FD0C4| |9531663C9DFFA112564ED2FEE69E7BEE39FF7BCE99C2A57CF0FEB12B87480B1EA99| |46CBB78A2543D6F36BC8552D95A267E8C45AB329537D7AC8A8F57096C17F3E659B3| |6A9BD939CB6CAC170F5F6C94BA65A76056CC2DBBFB4E81A55AAD929DAB58E595D57| |6BC375FAD6A39E8AE16CD529D179D5B8B3366C35EB1EAA1A3756B39BBB4DE308B85| |92BDCAF1BA5940927F0F0DFED39AE21C2FE574A29CA2E02C3832038E4E83990C3B7| |628DAB397D786A2909FE471743AC94829F29C02DB2C72CFB49D03BBFC9286F3682F| |11CFF30AF4BF16BE0187DE0ADF818F58A32E1AF54FB0A9CFC22F60E42BD8FD4DB8C| |10C2B0A735EAFE4F55E55EEDEAE1BC25B60720D1A93EBC2CBA0C15DF221AFE68B6A| |AE2DB79F973E9D221CD7C01E19B68728A2E829EB0C88CEC0FFD632CEEC57F480CFB| |643A7A75DF474889E0ED113E59C9D7297CEF788B3FB83F02338B5CF03CE0A0F80CF| |387E487A15AA4B4F1A60C4067B56C100DF3B0C5F0AF7A2D731CE1D157DD109F8C5B| |6780FF77FCC39E25293B8DCEF39DB1238A725C4BF4718E798BD729FDE6BE845DF75| |E14D70406A3120B518925A3CE1B8FDEE44395AFFEDE61D0D1AB8037A58FFA0E81F7| |4F8219D2DC3D29961E9CC887466543A93DAD9995F98A004AB1C13956332E5E3A785| |65A8195F015335543B75017CC12AD3A224EDDEDAA0186B9980167D42A66AF20FB95| |59EDC8486C99FC8ADD8370B5F9515DFE939F84CCF0B17C0DC71F92AF9CC8C4CEDCC| |8EA9CDA8D6D7EEF4A9D6D7DB5C729516B75B0EE2C4926A7DB7A4B95E1BFE560CA22| |9DC7B73BB2D0DDBF77F368D92D0D6B5A0B975FBB1DDFF2EA6E7778C8F219343B1D6| |043A7F01B1E2C001| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| 1 What this team needs is more Defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, PLVRIZR said: I'd also argue that Inv/SS is "close enough" 😁 I hereby approve Inv/SS as close enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Dark/Dark/Soul Tank, "It Cannot Die" should be its name. I went crazy on the build, got alot of feedback from the tanker forums and really polished it. +4×8 pulled the Freedom Phalanx on the LRSF they couldn't kill me, of course I couldn't kill them but you know...tanker. They were so fixated on me that the team just wiped them out. 1 https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 10:17 AM, ZemX said: And I'd sooner go Shield/Ice than Ice/Ice. And this is why we need Shield Melee! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: And this is why we need Shield Melee! Even if they just re-skinned some of the bare hand fighting sets so that the shield is on the arm doing the punching, it would *look* like Shield Melee and be way cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: And this is why we need Shield Melee! Yes we do. https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeres Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I have a Dark/Dark/Soul tanker and he's just a beast. Yes, end heavy but once you're incarnate that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemX Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 4:19 PM, The_Warpact said: Yes we do. Soon. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 2:10 PM, Bill Z Bubba said: And this is why we need Shield Melee! No, this is why Shield Defense needs a second attack instead of a T9 enhancement mule. 😉 You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uun Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Another vote for Dark/Dark (although I took Pyre for the epic). I've done Rad/Rad on a scrapper and that also works well. Uuniverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) On 10/3/2021 at 9:43 PM, ninja surprise said: That Never Have I Ever thread got me thinking - I've never really played a toon with matching primary and secondary very high. I've gotten a Dark/Dark of some sort around level 30. Saw some good builds here recently, I'm going to give those a go if my toon's is a Tank. Abandoned a Fire/Fire Scrapper in the 20's. Never done the other combos. Is there an elemental combo you love playing? The two I'm most likely to go with are Fire/Fire and Electric/Electric. Dark Armor / Dark Melee Electric Armor / Electrical Melee Fiery Aura / Fiery Melee Ice Armor / Ice Melee Radiation Armor / Radiation Melee Stone Armor / Stone Melee Of those combos, Dark and Rad sound best to me. Rad more than Dark I think. Edited October 9, 2021 by arcane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warboss Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) My choice would be: Fire/Fire Rad/Rad Dark/Dark or Electric/Electric I've run them all to 50, and I can say that they all were enjoyable to play. I'm biased, but I love the Fire Sword Circle animation (and effects/results ;)). Of the four elemental types mentioned, if not already done, I'd go Fire/Fire (Burn + FSC!). Edited October 9, 2021 by Warboss Can't quite type yet... 1 Nothing warms your opponent like Fiery Melee. Tanker Tuesday and Tanker Tuesday Tour Info: 1st Tuesday-Excelsior 2nd Tuesday-Torchbearer 3rd Tuesday- Everlasting 4th Tuesday- Indomitable Special weekend run for Reunion/Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Warboss said: I've run them all to 50, and I can say that they all were enjoyable to play. I'm biased, but I love the Fire Sword Circle animation (and effects/results ;)). Of the four elemental types mentioned, if not already done, I'd go Fire/Fire (Burn + FSC!). Same, and I love Breath of Fire. I just don't like Blazing Aura, the "poofing" animation makes my eyes hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumphant Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I haven't gotten very far with my Archery/Trick Arrow blaster (lvl 27) but, so far, I've been surprised at how fun and rewarding this build has been for me. I'm used to playing blappers, so going for pure shooty was a bit of a hard sell for me, but trick arrow has enough cool gimmicks to keep play fresh and interesting. My opinion could change once I get to 50, of course. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, ninja surprise said: Same, and I love Breath of Fire. I just don't like Blazing Aura, the "poofing" animation makes my eyes hurt. And I love Combustion, because my Fiery Melee tanker has MoT in it, so it's a quick recharging, almost guaranteed proc activation for the +Res. I put SGF in Breath, so I get the +Absorb almost every activation, as well. I head to the Hollows, every so often, to Combustion kill those Hellion bosses that were such a pain killing me with Combustion, while leveling 🙂 Edited October 10, 2021 by PLVRIZR Hellions, not Skulls 1 Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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