Infiltration

[Snarky]

What is this vaguely worded smashed potato version of old invisibility french fry?!?

[Aracknight]

Its athletic/ninja run you  can slot that also gives you some stealth and some out of combat defense. 

 

Its currently my favorite power in the game.

[Troo]

There is no Invisibility any more for that power pool. There is only a janky new Travel Power that could be mostly replaced by stuff that doesn't require a power pick.

 

N3RF softcaps!!

 

On 4/20/2021 at 6:30 AM, Jimmy said:

 Infiltration

• Replaces Invisibility as Concealment's T3 power
  • If you previously had Invisibility, you will now have Infiltration
• Grants a run and jump bonus similar to Ninja Run
• Grants out-of-combat stealth
  • 36ft in PvE, 389ft in PvP (the same values as Stealth before this patch)
• Grants 1.75% out of combat defense

 

seriously though, it is trooly epic to take in just how many changes have happened in i27.

Edited October 28, 2022 by Troo

[Troo]

..and

 

[KC4800]

Put a Celerity in there.

[Troo]

like this?

Edited October 28, 2022 by Troo

[momentarygrace]

So accepting that this question is very subjective (opinions are fine), what is the best stealth at this point?

 

I used (when dinosaurs etc.) to take regular (now non-existent) Stealth on many of my toons, and Super Speed on a good number.  SS seemed to work very well for me and my non-leet play skills.  I solo a lot.

 

Should I look at Infiltration now, or keep on keepin on?

[Luminara]

12 minutes ago, momentarygrace said:

So accepting that this question is very subjective (opinions are fine), what is the best stealth at this point?

 

Superior Invisibility.

 

In the Concealment pool, Stealth provides the highest stealth, 55', enough to render you completely invisible to anything that doesn't have increased Perception or ignore Stealth.  As different stealth powers don't stack stealth any longer, but +Stealth enhancements do stack with different stealth powers, you can still operate with Super Speed or Infiltration and a +Stealth enhancement, and that will give you a higher stealth radius, but Concealment's Stealth is, by itself, sufficient for just about everything.

[Glacier Peak]

You can slot so many global procs in it!

[roleki]

1 hour ago, Snarky said:

What is this vaguely worded smashed potato version of old invisibility french fry?!?

 

Are you sure you're @Snarky and not just hangry?

[Luminara]

9 minutes ago, roleki said:

 

Are you sure you're @Snarky and not just hangry?

 

He just ate a thesaurus, he's fine.

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, Luminara said:

 

He just ate a thesaurus, he's fine.

Actually I ate a linguist.  Just to shut them up.

[Aracknight]

1 minute ago, Snarky said:

Actually I ate a linguist.  Just to shut them up.

 

How cunning.

[roleki]

Just want to say, I like this new direction the forums are taking.

[Snarky]

THe ask about Infiltration is real.  It is in my main build and I am like?  What good is it?  I have hover, fly, and stealth on all the time (Blaster) I needed a mule to get the Concealment Pool Phase Shift. (I really like PS) But except for muling a LOTG I cannot figure a single use for infiltration.  About as much use as Brawl.

[Aracknight]

I main an SR scrapper.  I 2 slot it with winters gift, and with sprint on it puts me at the old speed cap of 92.5 mph, and the old jump speed cap of 78 mph.  When added to the stealth io i keep in sprint, im virtually invisible to most mobs.  I cannot stress how awesome this power is for movement and stealth purposes.

[Aracknight]

I feel the need to apologize.  I didn't read Snarky's question properly.  I defended the power i like by answering the question "What good is it?" instead of answering Snarky's actual question "What good is it in my specific build?"

 

Sorry all.

[Snarky]

38 minutes ago, Aracknight said:

I feel the need to apologize.  I didn't read Snarky's question properly.  I defended the power i like by answering the question "What good is it?" instead of answering Snarky's actual question "What good is it in my specific build?"

 

Sorry all.

No, I actually expect that (and want it)  I need more info.  Sometimes I play melee.  In this build the info is not helpful, but on a lightly armored melee hitter?  golden.  so thx

[Aracknight]

13 minutes ago, Snarky said:

No, I actually expect that (and want it)  I need more info.  Sometimes I play melee.  In this build the info is not helpful, but on a lightly armored melee hitter?  golden.  so thx

Thanks bro.

[Troo]

55 minutes ago, Snarky said:

No, I actually expect that (and want it)  I need more info.  Sometimes I play melee.  In this build the info is not helpful, but on a lightly armored melee hitter?  golden.  so thx

 

It's just a second tier travel power which can be used as a mule or for some stealth.

If someone loves Ninja Run and wished it was enhance-able this is the power for them. <-- best use case? maybe.

 

 

@KaizenSoze sorry about the glib nerf softcaps, that's what some of the travel/pool changes did for to me

 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Troo

[PLVRIZR]

2 hours ago, Snarky said:

Actually I ate a linguist.  Just to shut them up.

How cunning...

[Aracknight]

[Clave Dark 5]

10 hours ago, Snarky said:

THe ask about Infiltration is real.  It is in my main build and I am like?  What good is it?  I have hover, fly, and stealth on all the time (Blaster) I needed a mule to get the Concealment Pool Phase Shift. (I really like PS) But except for muling a LOTG I cannot figure a single use for infiltration.  About as much use as Brawl.

I think I stole that build of yours and I too kept looking at it on my copy-blaster going "WTF?" 

 

OK, so "it's a Ninja Run that I can use a power choice on" is fine I guess if you like that sort of thing, although I feel (again "personally" I guess) that the joy of Ninja Run is a I don't HAVE to use a power choice for it, nor throw slots on it to make it useful, but...  *shrug*

[Grouchybeast]

If, like me, you hate superspeed but you want to have a natural-origin character whose travel power has at least a level of plausible deniability as 'natural', Infiltration is great.  I have it on my DP/MC blaster, and it's both perfect for the concept and with a couple of Blessing of the Zephyr slotted has more than adequate travel speed.

[Tachstar]

1 hour ago, Grouchybeast said:

If, like me, you hate superspeed but you want to have a natural-origin character whose travel power has at least a level of plausible deniability as 'natural', Infiltration is great.  I have it on my DP/MC blaster, and it's both perfect for the concept and with a couple of Blessing of the Zephyr slotted has more than adequate travel speed.

 

I wish we could visit Null the Gull and turn off the stealth part. Or at least the visual aspect of it. Same for all powers that hide, obfuscate, or render transparent the glorious glory of my gloriously glorified creations. Not just for me, but for the sake of all the other players out there who are missing out!