Underfyre Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I spent a ton of time on those write ups. 2 3 Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FupDup Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 It was pretty damn useful for getting ideas flowing to figure out which alts to theorycraft/make next. Even though some of the posts were outdated thanks to years of patching, it was still a great reference point overall. Press F to pay respects. 1 1 Closed Beta Discord Invite: https://discord.gg/DptUBzh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, Underfyre said: I spent a ton of time on those write ups. I think your best bet would be to ask @GM Crumpet He may not be able to help, but he'll at least get you an answer. 1 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FupDup Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Just now, PeregrineFalcon said: I think your best bet would be to ask @GM Crumpet He may not be able to help, but he'll at least get you an answer. @Booper was the one who pulled the trigger it seems. Closed Beta Discord Invite: https://discord.gg/DptUBzh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Booper Posted May 3 City Council Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, Underfyre said: I spent a ton of time on those write ups. It was outdated and no longer maintained. The OP told me to go ahead and unpin it. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted May 3 Game Master Share Posted May 3 5 hours ago, FupDup said: @Booper was the one who pulled the trigger it seems. Wasn't me who pulled the plug, but I see Booper answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted May 3 Game Master Share Posted May 3 5 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said: I think your best bet would be to ask @GM Crumpet He may not be able to help, but he'll at least get you an answer. Ah, but will you get the answer you want? 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 7 hours ago, Underfyre said: I spent a ton of time on those write ups. Copy them, make a new post since you do keep them updated, ask for it to be pinned? 1 2 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underfyre Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 On 5/3/2024 at 1:26 AM, GM Crumpet said: Ah, but will you get the answer you want? 😛 No. 2 Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Unmaintained or not it was still the best resource of ANY archetype. I just used it for my Dark3 Sentinel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 hours ago, Snarky said: Unmaintained or not it was still the best resource of ANY archetype. I just used it for my Dark3 Sentinel Since when has The Council of Fourteen cared about what we use for resources? Have we all just forgotten what they did when working on updating Force Fields? They deleted PKs posts in their feedback threads and then, once it went live, unceremoniously unpinned his thread and then they quietly pretended that nothing had happened. On 5/2/2024 at 11:26 PM, GM Crumpet said: Ah, but will you get the answer you want? 😛 The reason why I suggested to the OP that he ask you specifically is because in the past you've always shown enough respect for the players to at least get us an answer. And we all understand that you're not in charge so even if the answer is "never gonna happen and go F yourself" I'm ok with that because at least you took the time and effort to get us the answer. Unlike others on The Council of Fourteen who spent years ignoring our requests for updated information but then one day went out of their way to give the info that we'd been asking for to MOP. 4 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted May 5 Game Master Share Posted May 5 8 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said: Since when has The Council of Fourteen cared about what we use for resources? Have we all just forgotten what they did when working on updating Force Fields? They deleted PKs posts in their feedback threads and then, once it went live, unceremoniously unpinned his thread and then they quietly pretended that nothing had happened. The reason why I suggested to the OP that he ask you specifically is because in the past you've always shown enough respect for the players to at least get us an answer. And we all understand that you're not in charge so even if the answer is "never gonna happen and go F yourself" I'm ok with that because at least you took the time and effort to get us the answer. Unlike others on The Council of Fourteen who spent years ignoring our requests for updated information but then one day went out of their way to give the info that we'd been asking for to MOP. I appreciate the confidence in me (though I'd never tell someone to F off 😛 ). I try my best but don't always have the information at hand or it's above my pay grade. The city council is new, the people on it aren't. Chances are you've interacted with them over the years. It's not a shadowy cabal sitting round a table in hoods with their faces in shadow. It's a group of volunteers who try to make the game consistent across the board and build new content they hope people will enjoy. As for unpinning the post, I've done the same myself on occasion when contacted by the original poster. An out of date resource is no use to anyone. If someone wants to make an up to date one then all they have to do is post it and contact any GM and we'll happily pin it as as a replacement. There is no malice involved, and the original poster always has the option to delete instead of unpin if they so wish. I'm always happy to have a conversation with a player, even if we don't agree. As long as it stays respectful and doesn't degenerate into "you suck, man!!" levels 🙂. Some things I know and can talk about, others I can't, and some things I have no idea as they are technical and I'm just an end user and my abilities are limited to hitting the on switch!! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, GM Crumpet said: It's not a shadowy cabal sitting round a table in hoods with their faces in shadow. Some things I know and can talk about, others I can't Read between the lines.... it's a Nemesis plot. FREEEEEM!!!! And the "things I know and can talk about, others I can't " comment? That means they're looking at more ways to nerf regen. 1 1 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/2/2024 at 9:34 PM, Underfyre said: I spent a ton of time on those write ups. Make a new post with the builds - then you will be the Original Poster ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, GM Crumpet said: I appreciate the confidence in me (though I'd never tell someone to F off 😛 ). I try my best but don't always have the information at hand or it's above my pay grade. The city council is new, the people on it aren't. Chances are you've interacted with them over the years. It's not a shadowy cabal sitting round a table in hoods with their faces in shadow. It's a group of volunteers who try to make the game consistent across the board and build new content they hope people will enjoy. As for unpinning the post, I've done the same myself on occasion when contacted by the original poster. An out of date resource is no use to anyone. If someone wants to make an up to date one then all they have to do is post it and contact any GM and we'll happily pin it as as a replacement. There is no malice involved, and the original poster always has the option to delete instead of unpin if they so wish. I'm always happy to have a conversation with a player, even if we don't agree. As long as it stays respectful and doesn't degenerate into "you suck, man!!" levels 🙂. Some things I know and can talk about, others I can't, and some things I have no idea as they are technical and I'm just an end user and my abilities are limited to hitting the on switch!! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 13 hours ago, GM Crumpet said: The city council is new, the people on it aren't. Chances are you've interacted with them over the years. It's not a shadowy cabal sitting round a table in hoods with their faces in shadow. They actually are a shadowy cabal, I don't know who they are, most of us plebes don't know who they are, and they set it up that way on purpose. Initially I'm sure it was to shield themselves and their careers should NCSoft decide to play hardball, so I certainly don't blame them for that. They may not have hoods, or even a table, but they a cabal who operates from the shadows. That's not an insult, merely a statement of fact. 13 hours ago, GM Crumpet said: As for unpinning the post, I've done the same myself on occasion when contacted by the original poster. Sure, but that's not what happened with PK, and you know it. You say there's no malice involved and maybe you're right. But from where I'm at, on the outside looking in, it sure looked like there was in that particular case. Look, I didn't mean for my posts here to turn into criticism of The Council of Fourteen, I just contrary streak and an addiction to making sure that what's being said in conversation is factually accurate. Which, as I'm sure you can imagine, has insured that I'm pretty much always in trouble with someone. 1 1 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 21 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said: They actually are a shadowy cabal, I don't know who they are, most of us plebes don't know who they are, and they set it up that way on purpose. Initially I'm sure it was to shield themselves and their careers should NCSoft decide to play hardball, so I certainly don't blame them for that. They may not have hoods, or even a table, but they a cabal who operates from the shadows. That's not an insult, merely a statement of fact. That's why it was called S.C.O.R.E. Secret Cabal of Reverse Engineers before it was rebranded as Homecoming when it was opened to the public after the leak. I've been a GM for other MMO private servers (Lineage 2, SWG) and ran a private WoW server for awhile using Apache way back in the day. I'm not on the team here in any capacity whatsoever, but I fully understand why they are secretive as it's common among the dev team of any private server. Homecoming is kinda an oddity in that it became a registered LLC (although it did use a shell company to hide the identity of the registered agent, so more shadowy cabal), and even more so getting a limited license to run the game from the IP holder (which is pretty unique). Although they are a shadowy cabal, they run a pretty resilient server structure that's demonstrated reliability in staying online, despite me not always agreeing with some of the changes we've seen over the years (hello stealth exclusivity). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Number Six Posted May 6 City Council Share Posted May 6 21 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said: Look, I didn't mean for my posts here to turn into criticism of The Council of Fourteen, I just contrary streak and an addiction to making sure that what's being said in conversation is factually accurate. Funny story about that. But it's 14 now? Who got promoted??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 43 minutes ago, SeraphimKensai said: That's why it was called S.C.O.R.E. Secret Cabal of Reverse Engineers before it was rebranded as Homecoming when it was opened to the public after the leak. I must have misread something, but I thought SCORE & HC were two separate entities. (Gist of finally getting around to reading the pcgamer article last night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 31 minutes ago, Number Six said: But it's 14 now? Who got promoted??? If you do a member search on the forums for City Council it literally shows 14 members. Hence The Council of Fourteen. I think it was Widower who was promoted. He used to be listed as Head GM, now he's shown as a member of the council. Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Number Six Posted May 6 City Council Share Posted May 6 56 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said: If you do a member search on the forums for City Council it literally shows 14 members. Oh, ok, the 14th is the the "Homecoming" account. That doesn't count. That's not a person, it's a staff use general account we all have access to for posting announcements (kind of like Curator is for patch notes except a different group can use that one). Like a PR mailbox so people don't get confused and ping one person because they happened to be the one to post the announcement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Number Six said: Oh, ok, the 14th is the the "Homecoming" account. That doesn't count. That's not a person, it's a staff use general account we all have access to for posting announcements (kind of like Curator is for patch notes except a different group can use that one). Like a PR mailbox so people don't get confused and ping one person because they happened to be the one to post the announcement. Ah, I stand corrected, sir. So The Council of Thirteen it is and The Council of Thirteen it shall remain. Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Number Six said: But it's 14 now? Who got promoted??? 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted May 7 Game Master Share Posted May 7 23 hours ago, lemming said: I must have misread something, but I thought SCORE & HC were two separate entities. (Gist of finally getting around to reading the pcgamer article last night) They were/are. Homecoming is actually entirely separate and rose from the ashes after the big reveal. SCORE was a different entity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 5/6/2024 at 11:23 AM, PeregrineFalcon said: Ah, I stand corrected, sir. So The Council of Thirteen it is and The Council of Thirteen it shall remain. the exact number of a High Coven. not a coincidence.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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