Snarky Posted July 22 Posted July 22 since characters for stuff like this are not copying heroes, but emulating rock stars, what are the rules. rip Ozzy 7 1
lemming Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I do have a character named "Fairy Wears Boots" and while post-Ozzy, thought about a thug mastermind "The Mob Rules" 2
PartyKake Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I wonder what powerset would be the best fit for a war pig. 2
momentarygrace Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The most appropriate name for a tribute character is off limits anyway.... 😞 1 1
El D Posted July 22 Posted July 22 So long as you aren't using the name of an actual band member from Black Sabbath anything just inspired by should be fine. War Pig, Paranoid (Perry Noid?), Child of the Grave... I wouldn't try to run around as Mozzy Mosbourne but song references should be okay. 'Child of the Grave' is actually a really good name for a Necromancy MM, come to think of it. 2 Global is @El D, Everlasting Player, Recovering Altaholic.
Scarlet Shocker Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Salad Bloody Salad; Plant/pain I was never a heavy metal fan but as an honorary "Black Country Mon" I love what he gave to my adopted home territory. As a music fan and radio presenter with an eye on the jazzier side of the tracks I encountered his mentors (allegedly) in Jazz Sabbath, a small jazz quartet that he unashamedly plagiarised and ripped off. What listening to them taught me was that Black Sabbath had a very great body of work. It wasn't simply thrashing guitars and making noise. Listening to it you get some genuine musical craft and for all Ozzy's feigned weirdness and deliberate strange there was real, actual musical talent in Black Sabbath and they did change music for ever in a very positive way. Edited July 22 by Scarlet Shocker addendum 3 All the best chemistry jokes argon
Uun Posted July 23 Posted July 23 If you weren't aware, Ozzy's final concert on July 5 raised $190 million for charity (Cure Parkinson's, Birmingham Children’s Hospital and Acorn Children’s Hospice). Highest grossing charity concert ever. 6 2 Uuniverse
Forager Posted July 23 Posted July 23 18 hours ago, Snarky said: since characters for stuff like this are not copying heroes, but emulating rock stars, what are the rules. rip Ozzy Are you talking about a character that is Ozzy, just a parody, or someone inspired by him? Ozzy Osbourne is probably a trademark and protected by intellectual property law. Not every person is trademarked, but a lot of celebrities are. Your take on a slurring, debaucherous rockstar with a goth aesthetic and British accent wouldn't violate any laws. That's an expy. If you named him Spazzy Spazbourne, he's a parody. That's all legal, but nobody knows how a GM would interpret them. On it's face, the ToS seems to only prohibit violations of intellectual property law, but those are not widely understood, so I don't know if the application in-game matches that. The typical forum goer response to this sort of thing is often unnecessarily cautious. 1 The D Squad Arc ID: 68066 Content for Ex-criminals following Blue Spectrum and Officer Daniels after Galaxy City These Ain't Your Daddy's Skulls! Arc ID: 68427 (A Playtest Arc for a Complete redesign of The Skulls)
Snarky Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 16 minutes ago, Forager said: Are you talking about a character that is Ozzy, just a parody, or someone inspired by him? Ozzy Osbourne is probably a trademark and protected by intellectual property law. Not every person is trademarked, but a lot of celebrities are. Your take on a slurring, debaucherous rockstar with a goth aesthetic and British accent wouldn't violate any laws. That's an expy. If you named him Spazzy Spazbourne, he's a parody. That's all legal, but nobody knows how a GM would interpret them. On it's face, the ToS seems to only prohibit violations of intellectual property law, but those are not widely understood, so I don't know if the application in-game matches that. The typical forum goer response to this sort of thing is often unnecessarily cautious. I was more curious because someone asked in game. I am still quite busy on my “every contact/every mission” with my Nosferatu padody/copy (not trademark protected) This thread was a way to honor Ozzy, answer specific questions about homage characters for Black Sabbath, and answer general questions about how to be inspired by something but not violate ToS. Thank you for the thoughtful and informative response.
Lazarillo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 There's also a rule, to my knowledge, that basically says "no creating real/historically noteworthy figures", though like all the "no [x]-type characters" rules, enforcement is pretty spotty in execution. So making a direct "tribute" to Ozzy would likely be an enforceable conduct violation. Just because of the ways the rules are presented, I'd imagine explicit parodies (the "Spazzy Spazbourne" example above would also be as likely to get acted on as other such examples. But more indirect references through lyrics or song titles are probably going to fly unless you just happen to get spotted by a GM who really hates heavy metal, or something. 1
Gerswin Posted July 23 Posted July 23 As someone with 60 Grateful Dead themed characters and an entire SG (Heroes of the Golden Road), it is completely possible to pay tribute to the music(ians) that inspire you without triggering the ire of ToS violations. 1
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted July 23 Game Master Posted July 23 Song titles aren't copyright, song lyrics are. All band member names plus those of their families are off limits, and any associated characters. I don't know Black Sabbath so can't say what they have associated with the band that is considered their property like, say, Iron Maiden do with Eddie. 3
LegionAlpha Posted July 24 Posted July 24 On 7/22/2025 at 2:45 PM, momentarygrace said: The most appropriate name for a tribute character is off limits anyway.... 😞 This is for any "armored" hero. Including Positron. 2
Scarlet Shocker Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Tommy Sabbath, with a big fookin' axe is probably ok, as is Salad Bloody Salad as a plant/pain troller 1 All the best chemistry jokes argon
Gerswin Posted July 24 Posted July 24 BS ideas: Child of the Grave Fairy in Boots Paranoid Warpig Supernaut solo Ozzy Hellraiser CrazyTrain Conductor Flying HighAgain Madman with a Diary Mr. Tinkertrain 1
Ghost Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Gerswin said: BS ideas: Child of the Grave Fairy in Boots Paranoid Warpig Supernaut solo Ozzy Hellraiser CrazyTrain Conductor Flying HighAgain Madman with a Diary Mr. Tinkertrain You forgot Ozzys greatest song.. Mr Clawley 1
Psyonico Posted July 24 Posted July 24 I see your Black Sabbath x Temptations and raise you Gilbert and Sullivan x Sir Mix-a-lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4 1 What this team needs is more Defenders
Scarlet Shocker Posted July 24 Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Psyonico said: I see your Black Sabbath x Temptations and raise you Gilbert and Sullivan x Sir Mix-a-lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4 Oh you poor dear. Let's go back to where it all began 1 All the best chemistry jokes argon
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cranebump Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) Whatever you do, the character must be a Bad, Bad Boy. Edited July 25 by cranebump 1 I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content.
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