Darmian

The novels are canon to my knowledge at least. "The Web of Arachnos" is set in the 20s/30s, up to Brass Monday, and nothing in game AFAIK contradicts anything in it. Similarly with "The Freedom Phalanx" being set in 1986, almost 20 years before the game starts, it contains nothing that contradicts anything in the game. In fact it provides some clarity on various bits and bobs of game lore found on plaques and so on. There are a few things that simply have to be taken on trust since the game cannot show them, such as Manticore's version of a "Batmobile"! Since the game came back I've re-read my copies twice, and like yourself @Glacier Peak , enjoyed them. I prefer the writing in the first to the second, but that's me. And as a Lore hound who likes to mine things for AE creation and tries to line things up with what's in the game we all play, I've found nothing contradictory or retconned about them. The comics are another matter entirely, and as they are all online anyone can check themselves. The intro Dark Horse issue is fun and apart from Statesman having a helmet and not a face plate, all is fine with that. The Blue King run is for my money the most consistent and best of the comics, and doesn't appear to be retconned in any way. My only gripe about that run is we never saw a version of Horus in game, though it would have to be a flashback I suppose. It would have made an interesting link to the Peacebringer path. Top Cow's run. How can I put this? Veers between "that was cool" to "oh dear god what cr*p". The entire Prometheus arc is blatant rubbish. The arc dealing with the Banished Pantheon is probably the best (and for my money the best part of this run), while the various bits of the Praetorian material have simply been retconned out of existence by Going Rogue.* The Cyrus Thompson story (playable via Twilight's Son) is nice, and the final two issues detailing the Rikti and the Honoree are decent. The less said about the fumetti/cosplay/adverts that comprise the two special editions, the better really. *Going Rogue didn't retcon ALL the old Praetorian material, notably the OG Maria Jenkins arc in game still happened, but none of the material in the comics is ever referenced there again, or for that matter in the game itself at all, either Pre or Post Going Rogue. I think I'm showing my biases enough for now!

I'll have to tag my future posts on Lore with a combination of "This is known", i.e. in game/novels/comics (though Going Rogue retconned a chunk of the comics) and speculation based on reasonable assumptions. And if you'll pardon the expression, I'm assuming my assumptions are reasonable! I'm always open to hear counter arguments though. I've pointedly NOT referenced the Lore AMA as "canon" here. Most of it probably is but the OG devs' statements on things that had yet to occur are now, thanks to HC, in a nebulous form unless and until the current devs implement any of them or state they are void. A tracery of possibility rather than carved in stone diktat.

Ah, ok. Didn't think of that.

Does the contact not give you the usual option to auto complete? I'm just asking.

Congrats to all!

Well, I showed up as myself, being a Loyalist Praetorian of Level 50 who never left. That's pretty mythical 🙂

It's a fun place to be, whether you are a returner from before or new.

Ah, gotta love that guy.

I think I was on Defiant too. The old memory is playing up!

So no one remembers teams of PVE going to Warburg for nukes (pre Incarnate when you really wanted those), a lone PVPer jumping out and then getting whupped? One on one you'll take us easily but you won't take 8 of us. Or was that just my lot?

If you're being clever then you get one player to play the Doctor (or other Timelord) and the others the companions and after a couple of adventures or more something terrible happens and the Doctor regenerates and a companion leaves. And the roles move around. ROFL. Let's hope that the new player was paying attention to what the Doctor was doing before because those are their memories now! And here's a new companion!

Torn. See, the captions kinda make it more comic book, and I like that. A lot. And there's more bad voice acting out there than good, there really is. And you all know it. I'm spoiled for voice acting since I'm a big fan of audio drama from Big Finish, and they know how to make "movies for the ears", but most VO is...ugh. For every series like Legacy of Kain (Simon Templeman!) there's...oh, pick one. There's too many. So, it ends with this player saying nah, don't want to see (hear) that.

Were all the lowbie Galaxy City missions repurposed for Atlas? I know the contacts themselves were moved to Atlas but they don't all have missions anymore. I did know this but it escapes me presently.

I'm having thoughts about this re cultural background. I have had a hell of a lot of "fun" at wakes. Great craic as my lot say. It can be very much the nuances that bind or divide us in many ways.

Well, yes and no. It's First Ward's dark mirror essentially. The Underworld of First Ward. So it's still Praetoria, just effectively dead Praetoria. Dead in a different way to the rest of Praetoria now though!

Not quite but you're close! (As an aside I personally think the only properly surviving area of Praetoria, for a given value of "surviving", is Night Ward. No Hamidon there at all. Bleak place to escape to though.)

I have a submission. "The Meteors" Arc id 42079. "Ever since you registered as a super with City Hall they've had your contact details if they needed you, though you've been doing fine yourself so far. Today however, you have a message from an unknown sender on that secure line. Do you want to open it? [SFMA] [Prequel to 26756]" Levels 35 - 43.

Argh. "Fun" I hate that word. I know what pleases me, what gives a bit of satisfaction as I play, but "fun"? Ish, not sure on that. I think @Luminara has expressed a lot of what I'm thinking far better that what I was about to write - not to mention doing it before me so I don't have to, that pleases me - honestly? I'll have to have a think about this one. I'll be back later, hopefully with cake. Cake pleases me, but cake isn't "fun". See what I mean?

Bravo, @Kyksie, bravo!

Seriously though! OLYMPIAN GUARDS = TOUGH!

Oh jebus, he appeared RIGHT THERE. I am soooo dead. Or fired (level 50 Goldsider Loyalist to the left of him) "No, boss, TOTALLY covering your flank! Big thumbs up!"

That mission is a damn good one, @Ankylosaur. One of the things I've discovered along the way, much as @cranebump has pointed out, is the AE does what it does. Now, you need to figure out how to make it look like you meant that to happen! You can assign an "expendable" ally to a player, one whose job is to spout useful information as they take damage, like "This guy is broadcasting some sort of signal! We'd better find the receiver." But in general the type of dialog tree you're talking about simply isn't there. @Take One mentioned the meta approach where an info dump is contained in an ally's bio info, chats and so on. That's doable but you'd need to either signpost that in the mission brief or mission entry clue.

Thanks for the run, @Kyksie. I've scaled one of those EBs back to a boss. Can't make it TOO easy, LOL. Between those three and their accompanying Loyalist counterparts that's an extra 30 missions slotted on to the end of Praetoria. I've got more Goldside stuff planned but there'll be a little break from that for a while!

No, I'm not. More than half of the thread involved speaking to Null to change alignments. I've answered this exact question plenty of times in the Help channel in game, that if you're Gold you cannot (a) change your alignment from Loyalist to Resistance or vice versa at Null, and (b) you can't change any of those into a hero/villain/Vigilante/Rogue at Null. You need to take the rift mission first. I'll grant that I could have been clearer earlier but that's hardly pedantry.

You can't change them at Null.