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SINCE NUMBERS ARE BEING INSERTED INTO THIS DISCUSSION... I TEND TO DISAGREE WITH THIS UNDERLINED ASSUMPTION. THE ALPHA POST-ED CAP IS 83%.... AND THIS EXTRA DEF/RES (SCHEDULE B ENHANCEMENTS) CAN MOST DEFINITELY BE USED AT LVL 45+ PLAY IF THE TOON HAS CHOSEN A ALPHA RES/DEF BOOSTING INCARNATE POWER. FOR LVL 45 MINUS PLAY WOULD TEND TO AGREE W/ABOVE.

POOL IDEA SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN!

THIS HELPED ME SOME WITH THAT VERY ISSUE ON MY END: https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

SOMEHOW GOONS HAVE NOT BEEN MENTIONED.... 6IwosrSdK55YzClCsXd3LFarkxl4MPpS2yvMSMW8-CI.mp4

Webmaxx3 it's up to you to bring this one home at this point. i have lost whatever the points are in this thread and am bowing out of this one.

NOT SURE WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS... BUT THE ADVANTAGE AND BENEFIT IN THIS CASE OF MAKING FEAR/THREAT PVP SETS VS PURPLES IS THAT IN PVE THEY WILL NOT BE OP RIGHT? I REALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUE AT ALL WITH ANY OF THIS, SINCE ORIGINAL THREAD WAS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE START ANOTHER THREAD WITH THESE OPINIONS?

AGREE TOTALLY. FEAR IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FINEST DEFENSES FOR TOONS WHICH DO NOT HAVE ANY ARMOR AND LIKE TO MIX IT UP IN MELEE. FEAR NEGATES THE INITIAL DAMAGE SPIKE AFTER ABOUT 5 SECONDS. THE NO ATTACKS AND IMMOBILIZE WHICH FEAR DOES IS ALREADY NUTS. ADDING MORE ACC TO FEAR IS JUST MAKING IT EVEN MORE OP.

IMHO: FEAR IS ALREADY WAY OVERPOWERED AS IS. ADDITIONAL RES/DEF SETS FOR TOONS WHICH CAP AT 75% IS NOT OP. JUST MORE CHOICES. UNSURE HOW ANY OF THIS PART OF DISCUSSION IS RELATED THOUGH TO THE ORIGINAL OP. LOTSA OPs.

PLENTY OF PREVIOUS THREADS TO DISCUSS FEAR AND THREAT OUT THERE ALREADY. THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE?

APPLYING SIMILAR LOGIC, WOULD SUPPORT FEAR AND THREAT SETS HAVING A PVP COMPONENT, BUT NO NEED FOR A PURPLE SINCE THEY ALREADY SUPPORT HAMIOS.

I USED RIKTI MONKEYS TO GET THE FINAL 'IMMORTAL' BADGE... MAYBE IT WOULD WORK FOR YOU? MADE THREAD FUTHER DOWN THE LINE IN BADGES....

THERE ARE THOSE POWER CUSTOMIZATIONS... ....BUT NOT ALL HAVE THE NoFX OPTION AS AN AVAILABLE CHOICE. LINK HERE: NoFX - Unofficial Homecoming Wiki DOES NOT SEEM TO INCLUDE ALL POOLS/EPICS ETC. EITHER.

I SUPPORT THIS IDEA... A SUPER SIMPLE ON/OFF WAY TO SUPPRESS EFFECTS. FOR ME ITS A MATTER OF THE EYES, SOMETIMES ITS TOO MUCH AND GETS ME DIZZY/QUEASEY ETC. I MAINLY SOLO THESE DAYS TO HANDLE IT, BECAUSE THERE IS FAR LESS.

LIKE THIS IDEA. MAYBE THESE NEW SETS COULD WORK ON THE UNENHANCABLES ALA: -REGEN; -DAM; -HEAL; ETC.

DEFENDER VIGILANCE... BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

CAN TRY TO FORCE IT COMMAND LINE... A FEW THINGS TO TRY HERE... https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Game_Client MAYBE TRY "FORCE FULLSCREEN" UNTIL YOU GET IT FIGURED OUT..?

SO, HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU FEEL?

DEFENDER VIGILANCE: COMPENDIUM OF QUOTES OVER THE YEARS...(PLEASE NOTE NAMES HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT). ⦁ .. Vigilance, on the other hand, encourages the Defender to let their teammates suffer to get an endurance discount, and as a later add-on was updated to even give the Defender more damage when they don't have around portable meatshields to soak up extra damage for them. They also are better at corrup... January 27, 2021 ⦁ ... Vigilance, the Defender inherent is... just not wonderful. It allows them to solo better, yeah, but beyond that it's just a bit lacklustre. Maybe a stacking Power Boost effect or something? It's just quite underwhelming, especially when compared to the Corrupter version which is a reliable DPS incr... February 25, 2022 ⦁ ... Vigilance gives Defenders a damage boost while solo and on small teams. On large teams, the damage boost is replaced with an endurance reduction. May 14, 2021 ⦁ ...Still not sure I like Vigilance. Definitely nice solo, but if I read things right, it disappears on a team when nobody is hurt? I get that that's about Defenders being more support focused but it would be nice if they always got something on a team. Like at least a small end discount... May 14, 2021 ⦁ ...The second you get on a team the defenders damage drops ( vigilance) and the corrs superior ability to respond to buffs takes over. Corrs have higher base damage, a higher cap and scourge. It isn't even close. February 5, 2021 ⦁ ...the first version of Defender Vigilance was an End Discount based on the health of the team. The lower the health of the team, the more of a discount the Defender got. If a Defender was doing his job, then his Inherent wasn't doing anything. October 8, 2020 ⦁ ..The problem with Vigilance, is that it only benefits most when solo and does little to help with team DPS. I understand it has other benefits when on a team, but IMO those benefits do not hep a team much in end game, since most built characters do not have an issue with endurance anyway. So on t... October 7, 2020 ⦁ I hate Vigilance. I love my Defender thought. October 7, 2020 ⦁ I'm 90% sure that Vigilance is NOT being applied when you look at it in the in-game character creation process. What's confusing you is the stuff siolfir pointed out. You're comparing the powers at level 1, which is not a valid comparison. Compare the powers with the slider pulled over to 50 instead... October 4, 2020 ⦁ ... Vigilance: I think the fact that Vigilance is so complex and messy is telling of how hard it is to find a good passive that doesn't kibosh soloing for defenders. What's worse is that I have no ideas on how to fix it. Brawl and the Origin Attacks: Brawl and the basic ranged o... July 31, 2020 ⦁ Vigilance is the first one I think of when you say "inherent powers that need attention." As others have stated already, with so many Defender primaries revolving around prevention of damage and being a force multiplier for your team, many Defenders will get absolutely zero use from the... July 28, 2020

VIGILANCE INHERENT IS A USELESS FORCE MULTIPLIER ON LARGE TEAMS. IT SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME. OR.. IT WAS ALREADY DONE A LONG TIME AGO JUST THAT NOBODY MENTIONED IT IN THE PATCH NOTES.

COOL!!!... GLAD YOU GOT IT DONE. GRATZ. MY EARLIER RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD MAY HAVE NOT BEEN DETAILED ENOUGH TO EVEN GET TO THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.... ANALOGY: SO REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST 'GOOD' JOB?... THERE WERE RARE FOLKS WHO TOOK THIER TIME TO SHOW US THE ROPES OF JUST 'HOW' TO DO OUR JOB... (EXPLAINING THE 'WHY') THE SAME FOLKS WHO COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU HAD.... MOST ALWAYS THOSE FOLKS WERE THE 'OLD TIMERS' AT WORK... THOSE FOLKS HAVE MOVED ON (FOR THE MOST PART)... WHEN I WAS WALKING OUT THE DORR AT WORK ONE DAY... SOMEONE REMINDED ME OF THIS. HE SAID THE ABOVE... AND ADDED... "WE ARE THOSE OLD GUYS NOW"... SAME FOR HERE.

AS THE STORY GOES: RECENTLY SUGGESTED TACKLING ONE OF THE MO RUNS... ON LFG SOME ASKED WHAT THEY WERE... SOME ASKED WHY 50'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR: LVL 50'S ONLY... BUILD W/TOXIC DEF/RES FOR MOMSLIB BUILD W/ENERGY RES FOR MOLR LEADERSHIP POOL.. VIA THE OLD SG REQUIREMENTS NO BITES AFTER ADVERTISING FOR IT THEN WAS TOLD IN LFG THERE IS MORE TO LEADERSHIP THAN JUST HAVING THE LEADERSHIP POOL... SO BID THE SERVER FOLKS 'HAVE A NICE AFTERNOON.' YMMV SNARKS... BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ORGANIZE TO GET THINGS DONE.

STARE AT IT LONG ENOUGH TO BURN INTO YOUR RETINA'S MY DEFENDER CO-PATRIOTS...

20 YEARS WE HAVE LIKED THE +30% DAMAGE OF VIGILANCE. 20 YEARS WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THE +ENDURANCE BOOST IS USELESS (FOR THE MOST PART). FOR 20 YEARS THEY COULD HAVE ADDED +RECHARGE OR +RECOVERY TO VIGILANCE AND DID NOT. FOR 20 YEARS THEY COULD HAVE ADDED A 'VIGILANCE!' WORD ANIMATION ACCROSS THE SCREEN AND DID NOT. I KNOW THAT POWER CREEP IS A THING. I KNOW THAT REWARD CREEP IS FAR WORSE THAN POWER CREEP. LETS JUST BE HAPPY WITH THIS... WHENEVER THE SUPER-RARE FULL TEAM VIGILANCE POWER ENGAGES... FOR ANY DEFENDER... WE CLOSE OUR EYES FOR A SECOND AND IMAGINE THIS... FLASHING SERVER-WIDE ON OUR CHAT AND AT ATLAS PARK...

DUCK SEASON