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I'm not even sure I would call them so so. Not even sure I feel their bonuses are the best.

Sustainable ST? TW isn't exactly End Friendly (hence why it's popular to pair it with a defense set that offers +END and/or +REC). Those Pylon times mentioned, could be built for the best dps and not damage mitigation. They aren't using Defensive Sweep for sure.

Yes, but it could also be popular because it's a set that gets one feeling super strength like. You're carrying around a huge sword! Go to the other Melee AT's with access to TW and it's not nearly as popular. 5th place on Brutes, and the general feeling for most players, is Brutes do more damage. On Tanker's it falls to 6th. And on all those top times, those are some pretty tricked out builds going around. That generally rely on t4 everything.

Yes, but it's only popular with a few sets. TW/BIO .. a combo that gives more damage and has ways of helping end issues. That's at #2, with the next TW combo being #13 with TW/WP. Another combo that has ways to help End Issues and no redraw. Then it falls to #23 with TW/RAD another combo that has End helping aspects. However, using the #1 position as the reason to say it's the best doesn't work well, when the #1 Secondary is Regeneration, which no one goes about saying is the best Secondary.

I love Dual Pistols as a set for animations. I just wish I could dish out more ST damage with it.

Been trying and trying to get a /Regen build I like that can do in PvE what my DB/WP and now StJ/NIN can do in PvE. Neither may be the fastest at farms, but both generally did okay at 4/8 setting and could solo AVs, without the use of incarnate abilities.

For all these times, what is the best Interface? -HP? -Regen? Fire DMG/-Resist? Does -Regen do enough to really warrant taking it over a straight +DMG one with no -Resist secondary effect?

I'm going to have to disagree. The unmovable object is just a way to find out a number, which helps people go "Will I even have the damage to take on an AV solo?" 😛 Now, surviving one it does not.

The +50% Chance to crit one is better.

Mind running that again with a different T4. Like Preemptive, to see what the difference is between more proc damage and no -HP? Or have you already?

I thought they all fell into the 1.188 animation time when in momentum.

Wasn't Spines always a dot toxic damage?

A Time Energy Armor Set. We have Time Manipulation. Take cues from that and make a melee armor set. Energy Melee on Scrappers. Ported animations as alternate animations for those which match up on animation times.

With the new proc changes, it would seem Dark Consumption can be turned into a long recharge, but high damage, almost no end (.52) PBAOE. That by the DPS numbers, could be substituted in for Smite for a more powerful attack with the same animation time.

Able to soft cap. Self heal. Has an End Mod ability that's basically a heal for your blue bar (I two slotted it with 2 +5 EndMod/RCH IOs and called it good). The Stealth stacks with the Strealth IO. I put a slot in Sprint instead of the Stealth power myself, so I could get the 2.25 S/L Resist bonus.

What do those numbers mean?

See, that's what I was getting the feeling with the Time/DP...and I believe it was the build on the second page, yes. Though, looking at your build, made me realize a Proc'ed out Empty Clips will out damage Dual Wield sans putting the Purple Proc in DW.

I've seen your build, and I'm curious, how it's handle going up against AVs? Have you tried soloing them? Do you know how much DPS you're putting out?

While it wouldn't have the radius of a NUKE, I'm curious, does this allow one to turn Dark Consumption into a cheap mini nuke? 4 Damage Procs. 1 -Resist Proc. .52 End Cost. 1.188 (Arcana Time) Activation. 180 Second Recharge. The radius is only 8 feet, so that seems like it doesn't take down the chances much.

Build wise, I can get Farsight Perma without Hasten. It's Chrono Shift that becomes the harder one. However, I asked the question, because according to Mids, Hasten is reducing the damage of the procs, but so is the Force Feedback: +Recharge Proc. So, I was just seeing if there was ways to make that less of an issue. I'm guessing not.

Looking over your build, I got to wondering. Is Hasten needed? If I read your PPM right. FF: +RCH in ES looks like it would proc often. Is it enough to make Chrono Shift Perma without Hasten? Also, Mids looks like it the FF: +RCH causes the procs to lessen, though I thought I read that it didn't. Is it just the slotted +RCH that effects Procs, or is it Hasten/Chrono Shift/FF Proc too?

I did go looking through those, but I believe it liked to rely on Incarnate powers.

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Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Time DP: Level 50 Science Defender Primary Power Set: Time Manipulation Secondary Power Set: Dual Pistols Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Temporal Mending (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (3) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (7) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 1: Pistols (A) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Vigilant Assault - RechargeTime/PBAoE +Absorb (9) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (11) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (11) Gladiator's Javelin - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 2: Time's Juncture (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (13) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance (13) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (15) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 4: Dual Wield (A) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/RechargeTime (15) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech (19) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (19) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 6: Empty Clips (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (21) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime Level 8: Distortion Field (A) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (23) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (23) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage (25) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (25) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing) (31) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 10: Swap Ammo Level 12: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 14: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 16: Bullet Rain (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (34) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown Level 18: Farsight (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (36) Karma - Defense/Endurance (36) Karma - Defense/Recharge Level 20: Boxing (A) Empty Level 22: Tough (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance (39) Titanium Coating - Endurance (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Slowed Response (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (27) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance (31) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 28: Executioner's Shot (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (43) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage Level 30: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 32: Chrono Shift (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (37) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (45) Panacea - Hea/Recharge (45) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (45) Panacea - Heal (46) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge Level 35: Charged Armor (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance (48) Titanium Coating - Endurance Level 38: Hail of Bullets (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (48) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (50) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (50) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (50) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 41: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (42) Recharge Reduction IO Level 44: Power Sink (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance Level 47: Electric Shackles (A) Empty Level 49: Fly (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 1: Vigilance Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery (40) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (33) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (33) Endurance Modification IO Level 10: Chemical Ammunition Level 10: Cryo Ammunition Level 10: Incendiary Ammunition Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 0: Portal Jockey Level 0: Elusive Mind Level 0: Task Force Commander Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon ------------ What I've gotten so far. Don't quite have the 45% Defense I'd like to have on top of the -To-Hit. Trying to get all the damage I could. 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As someone who recently made a DM/BIO Scrapper, I think this needs fixed too.