JayboH

Not nuts about the idea for ice patch. I think it's great as-is, especially now. It's a great and cheap mitigation tool. Think of what other sets have to go through to compare, that being Repel from Kinetics and Sonic Repulsion from Sonic Resonance, both requiring heavy endurance slotting on top of changing kb to kd.

I keep avoiding regen, hoping it gets a review/revision. Mentally the first thing I think of when it comes to Regen isn't the clicks, or what it used to be, or any of that - my first thought is always that I will get hit and get affected by every single debuff in the game. Naturally recharge debuffs are the scariest thing but regen debuffs and everything else affects you too. I just don't know if it is worth the character concept. It got some changes for the Sentinel version that was nice.

I was just happy with ice patch getting sped up in the last big patch

I know! Both Electric Affinity and now Trick Arrow in my opinion don't really have skippable powers (on a defender.) That is a great problem to have; do you sacrifice a good tool for another thing you want? etc. I have every power for those two sets on my characters because they are just too good to skip in my opinion. Before the change, I'd easily skip Flash Arrow for example - and some would skip Glue. Not anymore.

Forgive me oh mighty forum, my transgressions are but minor!

I had a brute like that as my first CoV character.

The snipe changes affect all snipes, they all work like the blaster ones, just a heads-up. I haven't tried Tactical Arrow since the nerfs.

No I just meant playing with combat port and fold space in general

Any chance you have footage of you doing that? Would love to see it on Youtube or something

Acid Mortar with 5 procs and an acc - fires 10 times, hits with an 8 ft AOE, 16 targets each shot. How does that work and is it OP?

It is high, I was just comparing those other powers from City of Data

Ah yes, the Energy Melee changes, that was good too. Teleport is very addictive as a travel power for me now. No more loss of gobs of endurance, you aren't in a rush to keep teleporting nonstop, it only needs a single slot, etc. I haven't tried Fold Space and the other changes yet.

Besides the end cost savings mentioned by ZN, it kind of looks like it is about the right end cost when compared to Telekinesis, but more expensive than Repel and Sonic Repulsion.

Electric Affinity for the Support sets perhaps sometime?

Why

Feel free to discuss other powers changes you've enjoyed here as well. I just wanted to take a step back and mention how great those two sets are after a lot of hard work.

I just wanted to take a moment and thank all of the hard work (and patience with our feedback) in regards to Trick Arrow's revamp. There are some of us who waited something like 8 years after the original devs mentioned they wanted to show it some love. The set feels so much better now after all of your efforts. I've actually been seeing more Trick Arrow characters being played after the overhaul, which is a huge step in the right direction. It used to be looked down upon back in the day. Just know there are those of us out there who thank you and appreciate your hard work. I've only experienced it after the revamp on my defender but it's been great. I hope to see more of this kind of response as time goes on for other sets, because after Electric Affinity's creation and now the Trick Arrow revamp you are really on a roll. Seriously, thank you. 🏹 🏹 🏹

Yeah, which is why I'm leaving it to those who actually find this game's pvp interesting.

Now you know why I am asking. Touch of Fear is a nice AOE damage power now.

Would you take Touch of Fear now with the revisions?

Procs may get a rebalance, so I would ignore them

Is there a place where good builds have been saved to a central location?

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Has anyone taken a crack at this combo? Touch of Fear seems to be pretty nice now, doing good AOE damage, and I have only found old builds so far in my search that skips the old version of the power. I was initially thinking of trying out Fold Space for tanking but I've been talked out of it. I would appreciate it if you have the chance - I have one that just hit 40 and I should start looking into what I should be saving up for.

Yeah, a few of us were trying to explain just how tough an SR tanker can be in that one thread, which I assumed inspired the first post