Bionic_Flea

Is that list from least worst to most worst? Or the other way?

Not to be that guy, but neither of those is a self-imposed cap of LESS than 8. 😝

*Gives Ukase a bro hug*

Inaccurate. LOTS of teams run at less than 8. SSB requires four and only four as an example. And plenty of players prefer to play in smaller teams of friends.

What server are you playing on? That's quite a list.

Confucius said, "Do not give your enemies ammunition. You might not live to regret it."* Sounds like Division 4 is the closest match. But again, to me, the TF settings are integral to guarantee everyone is on relatively equal footing. *Confucius didn't say that. I totally made it up.

Definite no for Division 5 ("No temps or incarnates that provide anything but defense, resistance and hp, this includes no endurance tools ") as the TF settings can't do both no Temp Powers and No Inspirations. Besides, in my mind, getting incarnates is integral to the game. You can think of it as an extra 10-20 levels after 50 where you power up by gaining new abilities and slotting them to make them stronger. If Division 3 ("Legacy pylon rules, all temps that effect damage output are banned, recovery temps are banned. Judgment is banned.") was No temps, No inspirations as set by the TF settings I would agree. It's OK if we disagree. But to me, the ease of making sure you eliminate all temps and inspirations via the TF settings is the big draw to me AND that it closely matches 4* and Master settings.

Here is what I hope is a constructive suggestion for a division, and potentially lead to several other divisions. Right next to the Pylons that most people use*, stand Apex and Tin Mage. If you talk to them to start a TF, they give you a series of options to add challenge and difficulty. Under Power Limits there is a selection for "No Temporary Powers," which would remove all the Amplifiers, Wisp pets, Signature Summons and, even a fan favorite, Envenomed Daggers. However, accolade powers are still active. So you have your passive health and endurance buffs as well as access to Geas and the others. I would go one further and click on the dot for "Inspirations cannot be used" to make it more like the old RWZ scrapper challenge from the live forums. I think those two settings would give you a fairly accurate reading of the DPS of the AT's power sets and build. You could take it further if you wanted to eliminate Incarnate powers or whatever. The problem lies in that you can only click one choice inside the radial box. So if you choose "No Temps" you cannot also choose "No Incarnates." However the list below the box are not mutually exclusive, so you could remove inspirations, be debuffed, buff enemies, and remove all enhancement effects all at the same time. Other than perhaps a comparison of attack sets without regard to build, I can't see why anyone would subject himself or herself to those other ones. The best part is that this is super easy to do and monitor. You have people start the video at the TF selection box to show the choices, or a screen shot with the same. The pylon is right there waiting for you to pummel. I will contribute 1 billion inf towards the bounty reward for this division. If you like these rules and wish to contribute, say so. *Except for weirdos like Linea 😜

Obviously, we have to nerf Red Wisp Pet! Also, beware the sudden influx of petless masterminds! I hear they're OP.

First, my build is exactly as it has been for over a year or more. The only things I changed are getting Geas, buying Recluse and offensive amplifier. Others have done the same so I figured why not. Second, while these rules seem wacky, they're Koopak's wacky rules and he is putting up the prize and keeping tabs on times and builds. Nothing is stopping anyone else from starting their own test with whatever rules they want. It's much easier to criticize than organize. You don't even have to do that, Koopak has said to give him a list of rules and he will add that as a division. Third, I want to do it again with everything! Lores, Inspirations, Recluse, Geas, etc. Sure it may not be reflective of actual game play but shaving seconds off your own time is a game onto itself. Edit: Added Robotic Lore, a few red team inspirations, Support Core T4 active - 27 Seconds

Opening bid on Crabs - 39 seconds. Sorry, no video. Crabstermind with mace, Geas, Envenomed Daggers, and Statesman Recluse Signature pet. Run Type: RWZ Base Pylon on Excelsior Division: I (I think) Archetype: Soldier of Arachnos Primary Powerset: Crab Secondary Powerset: Crab Time in seconds: 39 Burst: Burst Hybrid: Support Core passive only Build is usable for General Purpose: Yes, damn good for general use. Number of Runs Averaged Together: One (Edit: Ran a second one, added Offensive Amplifier and shaved a second. 38 secs) Version: Issue 27 Page 7 Excelsior Video Link: Pics below, no Video Notes: (Any added details you'd like to add, please include any temp powers violating the above rules here) Build: Modified very old build. No Mids for it that I can find. /Buildsave didn't work

LF Crumpet farm in pocket D. I can be sitter, hitter, or tasty fritter.

Number Six had to break it before he could fix it! Duh!

I think you could add a quick comment on the mission load screens that have all sorts of advice, jokes, and comments.

I have a Force Field/Dark Blast defender on another sever that specializes in Hellion skeet shooting. PULL! [Force Bolt] + [Moonbeam]! Critter goes flying and you snipe him in the air. great fun.

Maybe it was the -tohit combined with all the negative resistance. Even when I got a lucky hit on my dark melee, it was just a tickle to the Master.

Did they always have the same suite of powers then as now? Do the Masters of Death have better, stronger powers?

Since the topic title is "High Level Enemy Group Revamps" not just nuCouncil, let me submit a rant for nuCoT. I've been running some tests in an AE arc I made and one of the missions has high level CoT. OMG. One Death Mage is pretty bad and can quickly drop your tohit where you are missing the majority of the time, which makes it difficult to get rid of them and stop the debuffs, especially on melee characters. If you get more than one, and it happens more than i think it should, you now have hit chances in the teens or single digits. At that point you have to run or have a counter for -tohit . . . or die . . . especially on dark melee who needs to hit to get the benefits of [Soul Drain]. Being a stubborn bug, I died a few times before I started running and trying to split up the mages so that I didn't have stacking overlapping [Chill of the Night] auras, which I think are auto hit. And sometimes you get whole groups of ghosts, although they didn't seem to be as problematic as boss Death Mages. (Anyone know how much a +4 Death Mage boss's Chill will do? I think base it's -30 tohit) And yes, I was playing at +4/x8 and I know that I can turn it down, or get Ageless, or have different inspirations, or get teammates. But none of that is the point. The point is that I could solo them at +4/x8 previously on these same characters and now I can't or have to work a lot harder for it. Some folks like that old stuff is getting harder. I don't. Make new stuff as hard as you like but please stop making me change the way I've been playing for years and years. I'm old, stubborn, and crotchety. I don't want to learn new tricks, or respec, or whatever to run the same stuff I've been running for 20 years. I think you are more likely to lose me for changing too much than changing too little. I am all for more hardmode/advanced mode content and adding the TF/Ouro difficulty settings to regular arcs (with reasonable increased rewards). But please, leave the old stuff alone.

Something ic Flea. Eg.: Bionic Flea, Symbiotic Flea, Robotic Flea, etc.

I'd like to see more bugs in the game and swarms would be a great way to do that. We already have Devouring Earth Swarms. It wouldn't have to be everywhere or added to every group. In fact, it shouldn't be added everywhere. But a new group with say ants or bees coming at you in a huge swarm would be cool, IMO. MOAR BUGS!

Now that you mention it, I think FREEEM KB was also toned down based on feedback from her and others.