Darkneblade Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just like title says make mayhem missions more rewarding. You are robbing bank and you get what? 10.000 infamy? What is this? Candy store? At least if infamy is off the picture can we get reward merits with diminished returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Cure Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I brought this up ages ago too. It is really dumb that robbing a bank gets you not even ONE single origin enhancement. Not to mention that Mayhems, especially low level ones when powers are lacking slots, are some of the toughest missions in the game with full teams. Those ambushes just go forever (almost), and its easy to get stuck in a cycle of death, going to jail, breaking out..only to find about 500 Longbow coming into the jail to kill you..again? Kinda dickish move to be honest! Mayhems (proper ones, not from the unlockable contact) should give more money, perhaps scaling with team size. Even a reward table with cash/SOs/other stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 More rewarding? You mean smashing up everything in sight isn't enough? 🙂 As far as SO enhancements - meh, but I believe you can get them *depending on side missions.* I think it's pretty much done for parity with blue side (who got theirs afterward, after all.) That said, some reward merits, a reward table, something like that would not (IMHO) be out of place - on either side. 1 Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpousVileTerror Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I am disappointed. This thread SHOULD have been: Make Mayhem Missions Materialize More Money! But in all seriousness, yes. It would be great to have Merits or a Reward Table for Mayhems (and Safeguards). Unlocking Contacts is a bit of a chore, so some extra incentive would go a long way to help provide encouragement to go through the process, rather than just hit the "Find Contact" button and doing the same "free" Contacts over and over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdread Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 None of you have gotten nifty temporary powers from mayhem missions? Some of those are sweet rewards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpousVileTerror Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 The Temp Powers are from the side missions, and are shared from the same pool between Mayhem and Safeguards. They're certainly nice to have, but their limited use and randomness make them unreliable as consistent motivators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Well if you want to hand me more rewards I won't exactly refuse them. I've never needed much motivation beyond "it's fun" to do them. Although I admit, I solo them much more often than team them. Especially the low level ones (Atlas Bank/Kings Bank). Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc_Scorpion Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, ImpousVileTerror said: The Temp Powers are from the side missions, and are shared from the same pool between Mayhem and Safeguards. They're certainly nice to have, but their limited use and randomness I believe they're referring to the temp powers you get from the primary mission. Unofficial Homecoming Wiki - Paragon Wiki updated for Homecoming! Your contributions are welcome! (Not the owner/operator - just a fan who wants to spread the word.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpousVileTerror Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Oh, god. Yes, of course! Those are even MORE limited. So much so, that I forgot they even existed. Would be nice if they could be refilled. Or did SCoRE/Homecoming fix that, and I just haven't noticed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, ImpousVileTerror said: Oh, god. Yes, of course! Those are even MORE limited. So much so, that I forgot they even existed. Would be nice if they could be refilled. Or did SCoRE/Homecoming fix that, and I just haven't noticed yet? I don't know if they stack, but several are available elsewhere (plenty of jetpacks at P2W... I *think* the jump pack too? I'm forgetting the others.) Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpousVileTerror Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Mayhem_Mission#Mission_Parameters The https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Resuscitation and https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Summon_Teammates -would- be especially handy, but their limited duration make it a pain in the rear to get much use out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monos King Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) If completing bank mission temps are only one time obtainable, they could just be made not that. Not that I think the bank missions really need much else though. Edited May 31, 2020 by Monos King 1 The Mastermind Enthusiast City of Heroes Lore Discord MM Global Changes | The MM Wishlist Temporary Powers | Omnibus' Alchemist Archetype Is The Game Too Easy (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-Six Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 You get the firebug badge out of mayhem missions... which is a component of the force of nature accolade... which is a dang powerful accolade. My Toons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchybeast Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 10 hours ago, ImpousVileTerror said: But in all seriousness, yes. It would be great to have Merits or a Reward Table for Mayhems (and Safeguards). Unlocking Contacts is a bit of a chore, so some extra incentive would go a long way to help provide encouragement to go through the process, rather than just hit the "Find Contact" button and doing the same "free" Contacts over and over. Maaaaybe one merit per run? Or a higher reward that's capped at once per day? They're infinitely and instantly repeatable missions that take very little time to complete. 1 Reunion player, ex-Defiant. AE SFMA: Zombie Ninja Pirates! (#18051) Regeneratio delenda est! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 15 hours ago, Grouchybeast said: Maaaaybe one merit per run? Or a higher reward that's capped at once per day? They're infinitely and instantly repeatable missions that take very little time to complete. What was the rule of thumb the Live Devs used? Didn’t they base number of merits based on average completion time? I’ve never really tried a speed run, but I’d imagine a well played solo build could run through three paper/radio missions and a safeguard/mayhem in 10-15 minutes. Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 So, 1 Merit per minute? Something like that? Given the three to five Newspaper missions to get there . . . Yeah, Yomo's estimate of 10 to 15 minutes sounds good for a speedy attempt. So, 10 to 15 Merits for regular Mayhems. 3 to 5 for the Instant Mayhems from Lord Schwingalingadingadongalongawhateverhisnameis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-Six Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Just thought of this: Since we're robbing banks, give us the real money (inf) as reward. that would make it more immersive, more lucrative, and more attractive to do mayhem missions. make them harder: bigger heist = bigger risk yielding bigger rewards. say you're robbing a bank with a target of 10mil inf. sometimes it's there, sometimes you find a cache of rare salvage instead (safety deposit boxes), sometimes you just missed the armoured truck pick up, sometimes they upgraded the safe and you need X powers to crack it; or you only have 2-3 mins to rob the bank before scores of heroes come to the rescue -- doesn't matter if you're solo or an 8-man job. it's a bank robbery, you're robbing it. the "law" won't go easy on you. if this is done right, mayhem missions will be the new inf farm. don't do the same for safeguard missions. If a safeguard is successful, they get either a small token reward or a simple "thank you for being the hero you are"... now get out of my bank before you attract more villains 😃 My Toons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchybeast Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: What was the rule of thumb the Live Devs used? Didn’t they base number of merits based on average completion time? I’ve never really tried a speed run, but I’d imagine a well played solo build could run through three paper/radio missions and a safeguard/mayhem in 10-15 minutes. You can run any of the mayhem or safeguard missions as many times as you like from Lord Schweinzer or Agent Hassell. It's probably less than a minute in and out, especially for the safeguards where you only need to speed to the bank and defeat the villains as they spawn. Reunion player, ex-Defiant. AE SFMA: Zombie Ninja Pirates! (#18051) Regeneratio delenda est! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Hmm, I'd say a merit a minute seems overly generous, but then again, I'm on the side for fewer rewards. Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonWithin Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Make mayhem missions a two sided PvP trial. 16 characters where you choose who is villain and hero at the start of the trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 As much as I would appreciate Merits from Safeguard/Mayhem Missions, once the appropriate contact is unlocked it would be trivial to speed run these for Merits. Blue side I believe all the Safeguards are launched from a truck next to the contact; Red side involves more travel across Cap Au Diable (to submarines, ships) IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patti Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Does the game recognize the difference between mathem from brokers an d mayhrms from lord swchinger? If they do then different merit values for each. Like 15 from newsbroker, bur only 2 from lord swchinger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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