City Council Jimmy Posted April 25, 2021 City Council Posted April 25, 2021 Colour Key Most changes from the previous beta build are listed in green. Green text will become white text in the next set of patch notes. Any changes or fixes that are only relevant to the beta builds (ie: fixes / tweaks to new features) are listed in blue. Blue text will be deleted in the next set of patch notes as it is only relevant to highlight changes between beta builds, not changes from live. Powers New Prestige Powers Only Affect Self Activating this power prevents you from attacking foes or aiding allies - all powers will only affect yourself If you are attacked, this power will suppress, allowing you to fight back Suppression rules updated to match Stealth (will only suppress if an enemy hits you, not if they miss you) Disable All Powers Activating this power will stop all your powers and set bonuses from working Both of these powers can be acquired from the P2W vendor in the Prestige Utility category for zero cost Travel Power Descriptions All pool travel powers, prestige travel powers, Kheldian travel powers and sprints have had their descriptions updated to clarify the new stacking rules and suppression rules Flight / Peacebringer Evasive Maneuvers and Quantum Maneuvers Defence will no longer suppress upon activating any power Defence will now suppress on all attacks, including pseudopet attacks, and will still suppress when buffing an ally, commanding a pet or clicking a mission objective Group Fly This power should now acknowledge the owner having the Disallow Group Fly option from Null the Gull enabled Concealment Stealth The stealth component is no longer split into two different effects with different rules All stealth now only suppresses after attacking, being hit or clicking a mission objective -Threat will now suppress after attacking, being hit or clicking a mission objective Defence will no longer suppress upon activating any power Defence will now suppress on all attacks, including pseudopet attacks, and will still suppress when buffing an ally, commanding a pet or clicking a mission objective Miscellaneous Respec Recipes can no longer be sold to vendors Power Tray Locking Add the ability to lock tray numbers, which removes the little arrows from power trays (both regular and floating) Trays can still be changed using commands, binds, and macros This option can be adjusted with /optionset LockTrayNumbers 1 or 0, or it can be found in the Windows tab of the options menu Right-clicking on a power tray (both regular and floating) now includes "Lock Tray Numbers" and "Lock Powers in Trays" shortcuts Options Menu Added a new "Powers" heading in the Windows tab Moved "Power Recharge Indicators" here, along with the new Lock Powers option Moved "Chat Timestamps" and "Chat Timestamps Colors" under the Chat heading Sprint / Run / Jump Invention Sets Added a new IO set category: Sprints Both existing Running sets (Celerity, Quickfoot) are now also in the Sprints category, and are listed as "Running & Sprints" Both existing Leaping sets (Unbounded Leap, Springfoot) are now also in the Sprints category, and are listed as "Leaping & Sprints" Swapped the "and" to "&" Sprint powers now only accept Sprint sets, not Running or Leaping sets All other Running and Leaping powers are unaffected, and enhancement conversion only respects the original Running and Leaping categories TL;DR: This has no impact on existing slotting, builds or conversion, we've made this change in order to be able to introduce new Running and Leaping sets in the future without having to balance around them being slotted in Sprint Freaklok Arcs Adjusted Salamander and Grey Matter's "Hail Mary" powers (in Agent Watkins' Rusty Rivet mission) Endurance cost and recharge times on them have been reduced, making them more dangerous Bug Fixes Henchmen flying at a distance from their owner (due to the new Group Fly changes) will no longer ignore the laws of physics and teleport around the map Henchmen in the air can now be pushed out of the way just like henchmen on the ground Fixed Arachnos Soldier and Arachnos Widow having pstring descriptions during character creation Fixed accidental change to Vahzilok Cadaver resistances Fixed missing "&" in many references to the "Time & Space Manipulation" IO set Powers Bug Fixes Pool > Speed > Super Speed: Fixed this power sometimes preventing you from picking new powers when levelling up Pool > Teleportation > Teleport (+Shadow Step): Fixed these powers occasionally failing to activate if you had a non-combat NPC targeted Pool > Flight > Afterburner: Fixed the color palette on the Minimal FX theme for this power Pool > Leaping > Super Jump: Now correctly refers to Double Jump instead of High Jump Pool > Sorcery > Spirit Ward: Fixed sound effect repeating too much Pool > Concealment > Infiltration: Fixed jump components not working correctly (this was a beta-only bug) Inherent > Rest: You can no longer walk very slowly while resting with a weapon drawn Inherent > Stance > Slide: This stance will no longer interrupt flight stances Prestige Utility > Reveal: Fixed this power not being usable in PvP zones Temporary Powers: Fixed several Halloween costume powers still being mutually exclusive with stealth powers Trick Arrow > EMP Arrow: Fixed an issue where the EMP Field left by this power would be colored white when picking No Redraw theme, instead of matching the other fx in the power Sentinel > Mace Mastery > Coordinated Targeting: Fixed missing icon This fix was in the previous build but was missing from the patch notes Controller > Darkness Affinity > Fade: Fixed this power causing characters to constantly flicker Controller > Illusion > Spectral Terror: ToHit debuff enhancements should now work in this power Stalker > Dual Blades > Ablating Strike: Fixed a bug where this power would not apply AoE knockdown on combo completion Stalker > Dual Blades > Sweeping Strike: PvP Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% Stalker > Ice Melee > Ice Sword: Fixed minor scale discrepancy in PvP hidden crit (scale changed from 1.5713 to 1.571) Stalker > Ninja Blade > Flashing Steel: PvP non-hide crit increased from 5% to 20% Stalker > Ninja Blade > Dragonfly: PvP non-hide crit increased from 5% to 20% Stalker > Spines > Spine Burst: PvP hide crit decreased from 100% to 50% Stalker > Spines > Ripper: PvP hide crit decreased from 100% to 50% Stalker > Spines > Throw Spines: PvP hide crit decreased from 100% to 50% Stalker > Street Justice > Spinning Strike: PvE crit scale increased from scale 1.5368 to 1.54 Stalker > Electrical Melee > Jacobs Ladder: PvP Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% Stalker > Electrical Melee > Thunder Strike: (Splash Damage only) PvP Non-Hide/Held/Slept Crit changed from 10% to 20% Stalker > Fiery Melee > Breath of Fire: PvP Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% Stalker > Fiery Melee > Fire Sword Circle: PvP Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% Stalker > Kinetic Melee > Burst: PvE Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% This change has been temporarily rolled back pending further testing Stalker > Savage Melee > Shred: PvP Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% Enhancements Several enhancements were granting less of an increase than they should Specifically, the endurance reduction portion of some non-superior sets was too low (scale 0.5 instead of scale 0.625) and all three parts of the superior ones were slightly too low (0.6162 or 0.6167 instead of 0.625) Full list of impacted enhancements: Spoiler Avalanche: Damage/Endurance Command of the Mastermind: Damage/Endurance Frozen Blast: Damage/Endurance Superior Avalanche: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Superior Entomb: Accuracy/Hold Duration/Endurance Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance Superior Assassin's Mark: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Stalker) Superior Assassin's Mark: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Stalker) Superior Brute's Fury: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Brute's Fury: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Critical Strikes: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Scrapper) Superior Critical Strikes: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Scrapper) Superior Dominating Grasp: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (Dominator) Superior Dominion of Arachnos: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Dominion of Arachnos: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Essence Transfer: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Kheldian) Superior Essence Transfer: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Kheldian) Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Tanker) Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Tanker) Superior Kheldian's Grace: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Kheldian's Grace: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Overpowering Presence: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (Controller) Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Corruptor) Superior Scourging Blast: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Corruptor) Superior Scrapper's Strike: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Scrapper's Strike: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Spider's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Soldier of Arachnos) Superior Spider's Bite: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Soldier of Arachnos) Superior Stalker's Guile: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Stalker's Guile: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Unrelenting Fury: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (Brute) Superior Unrelenting Fury: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Brute) Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Superior Command of the Mastermind: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Superior Command of the Mastermind: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Defender's Bastion: Damage/Endurance/Recharge Superior Defender's Bastion: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Superior Vigilant Assault: Damage/Endurance/Recharge (Defender) Superior Vigilant Assault: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (Defender) 1 Got time to spare? 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City Council Jimmy Posted April 25, 2021 Author City Council Posted April 25, 2021 Per @Number Six: Quote One thing that we could use a few eyes on is testing the behavior of flying enemies in this patch. The fixes for the AI pathfinding issues that Group Fly exposed affect all NPCs. They may make flying enemies more effective at following and fighting players... or they might break something. Enemies that can fly will be more likely to take to the air to engage you if you are already flying. 2 Got time to spare? Want to see Homecoming thrive? Consider volunteering as a Game Master!
Coyotedancer Posted April 25, 2021 Posted April 25, 2021 Sounds like a good excuse to go hunt some Cabal witches... 2 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice
arthurh35353 Posted April 25, 2021 Posted April 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jimmy said: New Prestige Powers Only Affect Self Activating this power prevents you from attacking foes or aiding allies - all powers will only affect yourself If you are attacked, this power will suppress, allowing you to fight back Suppression rules updated to match Stealth (will only suppress if an enemy hits you, not if they miss you) Disable All Powers Activating this power will stop all your powers and set bonuses from working Both of these powers can be acquired from the P2W vendor in the Prestige Utility category for zero cost Was the Disable all power to make ready for changes to Walk so that it doesn't disable all powers? (As a small note, it appears Walk, flames of prometheus and accolade stats are not suppressed.) If walk is meant to be able to be toggled at the same time, but without disable all powers then? Walk does still currently disable all powers.
City Council Jimmy Posted April 25, 2021 Author City Council Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, arthurh35353 said: Was the Disable all power to make ready for changes to Walk so that it doesn't disable all powers? (As a small note, it appears Walk, flames of prometheus and accolade stats are not suppressed.) If walk is meant to be able to be toggled at the same time, but without disable all powers then? Walk does still currently disable all powers. Yep. Next patch for Walk. 1 Got time to spare? Want to see Homecoming thrive? Consider volunteering as a Game Master!
GadgetDon Posted April 25, 2021 Posted April 25, 2021 Continuing the discussion on stealth - how about making disabled stealth something like 95% opaque? That doesn't require changing the enabled setting, so with it on it's as it was before, but I think/hope that would be visibly noticeable between the two states.
Coyotedancer Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) I'd argue that trading Siphon for an actual Build Up is one of the things that makes KM *more* attractive on Stalkers than it is on any other melee AT.... But then, I absolutely hated the Siphon mechanic with my KM Scrap and Tanks, so- Yeah. Edited April 26, 2021 by Coyotedancer 4 1 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice
City Council Faultline Posted April 26, 2021 City Council Posted April 26, 2021 Please don't make this thread about Kinetic Melee - we're trying to get eyes on all the bugfixes on the patch in order to publish it to live on Tuesday, and discussion on Kinetic Melee is not helpful. The critter Flight AI tweaks, Spirit Ward FX and power changes that aren't just a simple number change are the priority. 5
Glacier Peak Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: Per @Number Six: Testing Methodology: Level 50 Mastermind with all Flight Travel Pool Powers. All engagements were executed while using Fly and ranged attack powers to force enemy flight. Conclusion: Based on my testing, enemies that use fly engage in normal attack behavior. Croatoa > Level 30 > The Cabal > Attack Spoiler Notes: The mob was on the ground when combat was initiated. They immediately took to flight and engaged in both ranged and melee attacks. When using ranged attacks they flew away a short range to engage and when using melee attacks they flew in close. Behavior normal. Firebase Zulu > Level 41 > Natterling + Observer > Attack Spoiler Notes: The Natterlings and the Observer remained airborne throughout the engagement. They attacked with both ranged and melee attacks, cycling between their attacks and moving in and out for ranged attacks. Behavior normal. Crey's Folly> Level 41 > The Swarm > Attack Spoiler Notes: Targets are always aloft, moved in and out of melee range. Did not attack from ranged distance. Behavior normal. 1 4 I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever....
Glacier Peak Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Faultline said: Please don't make this thread about Kinetic Melee - we're trying to get eyes on all the bugfixes on the patch in order to publish it to live on Tuesday, and discussion on Kinetic Melee is not helpful. The critter Flight AI tweaks, Spirit Ward FX and power changes that aren't just a simple number change are the priority. Spirit Ward FX Test: In-game Sound FX Volume 100% Conclusion: FX applies to a subjectively auditorily satisfying amount. It was almost unnoticeable to my ears. Spoiler Edited April 26, 2021 by Faultline Deleting attachments per request. 1 I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever....
Coyotedancer Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 Can confirm, the Cabal seem to be acting normally when dealing with a flying pack of angry Demons. 👍 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice
Glacier Peak Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) Following up my previous post on AI Flight behavior with one on Mastermind pet, allied pet, and temporary pet behaviors. Conclusion: Mastermind Pet commands worked as intended while using Group Fly. Testing proceeded as follows: From a distance, while using Defensive stance, I targeted an enemy then clicked Attack My Target. Mastermind pets engaged quickly by initially getting in to melee range and then using ranged attacks as they cycled through their attacks. Once the targeted enemy was defeated, they moved on to other targets that I selected. At the end of the engagement, the Mastermind pets returned to my side. Behavior appears normal. Spoiler Using the Aggressive stance, the Mastermind pets attacked enemies which I used Attack My Target on. They continued to attack until the enemies in the area were defeated. Behavior appears normal. Spoiler Moving on to Prestige and temporary pets... Behavior appears similar (subjectively exactly the same even) to how Prestige and temporary pets without Group Fly behave. If they have ranged attacks, they use them and if they have melee attacks, they use them as well. Tested using Signature Summon (Ranged Damage, Melee Damage, Support, and Tank) along with Back Up Radio (PPD Reinforcement) pet summon. Spoiler Edited April 26, 2021 by Glacier Peak 4 I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever....
Wavicle Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Jimmy said: Stalker > Kinetic Melee > Burst: PvE Hide Crit changed from 100% to 50% This change has been temporarily rolled back pending further testing Appreciated. Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon
Wavicle Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 Any chance you could look at fixing the icon for Double Jump that starts blinking as soon as you toggle it on? Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon
Heatstroke Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 Locking power trays ! THANK YOU !!! AFTER 17 PLUS YEARS THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 1
Cinnder Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Jimmy said: Power Tray Locking Right-clicking on a power tray (both regular and floating) now includes "Lock Tray Numbers" and "Lock Powers in Trays" shortcuts While you're in there, any chance we could get a right-click Disable option for the pop-up power tray so folks don't have to speak to Null for this? Or is that a different part of the code? 2
Alchemystic Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Faultline said: Please don't make this thread about Kinetic Melee - we're trying to get eyes on all the bugfixes on the patch in order to publish it to live on Tuesday, and discussion on Kinetic Melee is not helpful. The critter Flight AI tweaks, Spirit Ward FX and power changes that aren't just a simple number change are the priority. That's fair. Could we maybe get a discussion going in the next patch in regards to the state of Kinetic Melee moving forward?
Moka Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) I actually found kinetic melee is best on stalkers, in personal experience. Power siphon is a cool concept but lackluster in execution. I feel like I'm whiffing enemies with a pool noodle on anything but a stalker. In regards to the patch, been waiting for a "toggle off" power for a long time. Thanks HC team. Edited April 26, 2021 by Moka
City Council Faultline Posted April 26, 2021 City Council Posted April 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Cinnder said: While you're in there, any chance we could get a right-click Disable option for the pop-up power tray so folks don't have to speak to Null for this? Or is that a different part of the code? Different thing; that is done via granting or revoking a temporary power. May change in the future but not page 2. 1
SeraphimKensai Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 What kind of ideas are we looking at for potential new travel IO's? Otherwise regarding that are you open to suggestions? As Swift and Hurdle originally accepted IO running and jumping sets. that was changed to not allow sets there as people were putting celerity:stealth in swift and complaining that they couldn't see their costumes. With the fork happening and the travel stealth IO's (sprints/leaping) diverging, that means we could build stuff for swift/hurdle again. Since swift/hurdle are obviously auto powers, maybe some kind of proc that sporadically boosts movement speed to ss/sj levels during procs (that would then stack with other movement speed bonuses and travel powers, allowing people greater ease in moving around and seems congruent with the current movement overhaul. Or and this is a stretch as it does dip its toes into the realm of power creep, swift/hurlde procs that can be added by players that add a specialized debuff defense whether that be regen, recovery, tohit, defense, run, recharge, etc. to allow players to short of shore up to a degree some potential debuff weakness. -well perhaps not defense debufff resistance as that would likely be almost unilaterally taken by anyone outside of being an SR Tank or Brute. New IO's always get me excited to figure how what kind of new builds can be made.
Coyotedancer Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, SeraphimKensai said: Since swift/hurdle are obviously auto powers, maybe some kind of proc that sporadically boosts movement speed to ss/sj levels during procs That sounds ridiculously annoying... Inconsistent movement speeds, with boosts switching off and on at random intervals whenever you're running a map or just crossing a zone? Yikes. No thanks. That just sounds like a recipe for bouncing off of every stray crate and bus stop in the City. "Do-dah-do-dah, off we go running down the stree- *ZOOMPROC*... Yikes! ... *sound of Captain Speedbump crashing into the side of a building*... Ouch. NOT glorious." 😆 1 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice
SeraphimKensai Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Coyotedancer said: That sounds ridiculously annoying... Inconsistent movement speeds, with boosts switching off and on at random intervals whenever you're running a map or just crossing a zone? Yikes. No thanks. That just sounds like a recipe for bouncing off of every stray crate and bus stop in the City. "Do-dah-do-dah, off we go running down the stree- *ZOOMPROC*... Yikes! ... *sound of Captain Speedbump crashing into the side of a building*... Ouch. NOT glorious." 😆 You know, I wrote that before I had any coffee this morning, and now that I've finished my second cup your right. I'm just thinking about trying to line up a jump onto a platform and either over or under shooting it. 1
Myrmidon Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Tyrannical said: That's fair. Could we maybe get a discussion going in the next patch in regards to the state of Kinetic Melee moving forward? The state of Kinetic Melee: It could use an update. Let’s move on.😁 Playing CoX is it’s own reward
Cinnder Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Faultline said: Different thing; that is done via granting or revoking a temporary power. May change in the future but not page 2. Rats -- I had a feeling that would be the case. Ty anyway.
Taboo Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 Work-arounds seem to growing in number.. just saying. It would be great to see a bit more polish. (not a judgement merely an observation) 1
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